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GenyaArikado
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posted May 20, 2017 01:43 AM

LizardWarrior said:
Creature Quest isn't a heroes game, it's not even a might and magic game. I know you are desperate to prove us "wrong", but besides the creator there is no connection between CQ and Heroes, while Ubi just tirelessly milks the franchise, Spider Guardians is like the 3rd or 4th game in 2 years after Heroes VII.


The fact that these "cashcows" as you call them keep showing up means that for better or worse, Ubisoft still has interest in the franchise and that there is hope for more Heroes titles, and as long as they keep making Heroes games, there's chance they get it right again, like with H5. The point of those cashcows is both make money (which is something most of them apparently fail to do, given how they get cancelled) and keep the name.

I not quite sure what do you mean with the "prove you wrong" thing. Both EG and CQ are cartoonish-looking SW/SML clones but the latter is the one getting called "Creature Quest of Might and Magic" by Galaad lol

Galaad said:
Oh please, can't you see the difference? Both games look nothing alike.


I said both look childish, but that doesn't mean they have to look alike. Dora the Explorer doesn't look like My Little Pony yet both look childish, don't you think. Shaming EG for looking childish when you praise a game that ALSO looks childish is the lush part

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H5 is second most popular for its gameplay not for its lore.


Obviously. You seem dead set Ashan is the reason Heroes flopped when the truth is gameplay and technical issues in 6-7 what brought them down.

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Galaad
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posted May 20, 2017 01:50 AM
Edited by Galaad at 02:18, 20 May 2017.

GenyaArikado said:
Shaming EG for looking childish when you praise a game that ALSO looks childish is the lush part


Except I never shamed EG for looking childish, I only said I found it ugly with rather generic looking gameplay.
As for my Creature Quest of Might and Magic thread, I don't see the problem. Yes to me that game just screams Might and Magic all the over place but I'm not forcing anyone to agree with me on that.

And BTW, CQ benefits from a lot of variety, from the cutsies you saw in here to the darker creatures such as this one or even that one.
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LizardWarrior
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posted May 20, 2017 09:59 AM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 13:35, 21 May 2017.

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If it's so irrelevant to Heroes, then why is it so overhyped on Heroes forums on the basis of Heroes creator being involved, whilst it would not really be noticed in the endless sea of mobile games otherwise?


Haven't you noticed that there is a partnership between HC and VC Mobile for advertisements? Have you not seen the advertisements? It's called promoting. The game being created by JVC sure helps though, I won't deny that.

[quote name = Valeriy]I'm happy to announce that HC and AOH now have a sponsor with original HOMM heritage - Creature Quest. Creature Quest is a mobile device game being produced by a team that includes a number of original HOMM visionaries.


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Don't get me wrong, I don't know enough about Creature Quest to give it a fair review. But there's some irony in you guys complaining for about a decade that current Might & Magic doesn't have enough edge for you, that it's too childish and not dark enough, that Dungeon and Necropolis don't follow the "always chaotic evil" principle, that it's too gay or whatever...


People have always complained that Heroes lost its fairy tale atmosphere, so what's the surprise here? The thing with Ashan is that's just a try hard, it comes like the dark and gritty world made by some 12-year-old (dragon gods rule all because dragons are badass, necromancers are really just misunderstood anti-heroes, vampires are cool and handsome etc.)

Let's not forget this:
Erwin said:
Let us say that it's time for Dorothy to ride the dark whirlwind and leave the gentle light-hearted fantasy of Axeoth behind.

Which Erwinus totally failed to implement.

Don't get me wrong, I'd enjoy a more serious Heroes, which tackles more mature themes like the gruesome reality of war in a fantasy setting, but Ashan isn't the kind of world to support that and neither delivered the kind of stories in that setting.

Erwin said:
and then as soon as you hear of a cartoony mobile game that just happens to have that one dude from the old M&M involved, you completely ignore it has the very features you despised, and immediately hail it as a masterpiece. Shows that in the end it's all about the attitude you approach things with, huh?


I was very skeptical of Creature Quest before tbh, I'm always very suspicious of mobile quests. But it has none of the "features" it despised from ubi games. It is very easy to get premium currency without spending money (remember that heroes browser game?). And after you level up a bit and get over the cutesy creatures, you will find creatures that would fit design wise in an Heroes game. While Spider Guardians has that weird vector stylized weird-proportioned creatures that would look ugly outside the setting (not saying the current setting isn't already crappy)



GenyaArikado said:

The fact that these "cashcows" as you call them keep showing up means that for better or worse, Ubisoft still has interest in the franchise and that there is hope for more Heroes titles, and as long as they keep making Heroes games, there's chance they get it right again, like with H5. The point of those cashcows is both make money (which is something most of them apparently fail to do, given how they get cancelled) and keep the name.


Cashcows? They are milking cats and if they are going to release such games to leech of Might and Magic I'd rather see the game dead. Those aren't Heroes games, those are low cheap-quality spin-offs that try to squeeze the lemon dry, if the series was profitable we'd probably see a new heroes game in the works. Releasing a game every sixth months or so isn't the epitome of quality, it's just flooding the market.

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Avonu
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posted May 26, 2017 11:51 AM

GenyaArikado said:
Both EG and CQ are cartoonish-looking SW/SML

What are these SW and SML? Sorry, my knowledge of mobile games is very limited.
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lordgraa
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posted March 16, 2018 09:57 AM
Edited by lordgraa at 09:58, 16 Mar 2018.

So the end of May is the new "Doomsday"

Disneys new movie about might and magic kids will be out!

Check the trailer!

PS: Ubisoft officialy buried the whole Might and Magic brand with this: http://mightandmagic.com They simply erased the history and started anew
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Elvin
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posted March 16, 2018 10:15 AM

After all people wanted deep strategy/tactics and tasteful graphics. Gonna deliver 10/10, I can tell ^^
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verriker
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posted March 16, 2018 01:20 PM

lol

lol I sure love that they actually put questions about a chronology and Wolldovashan in the frequently asked questions as if anybody on earth other than them would even give a **** to ask that, for sure they are tripping dragon balls on Planet Erwin as predictable cheers lol
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posted March 29, 2018 06:43 PM

verriker said:
lol

lol I sure love that they actually put questions about a chronology and Wolldovashan in the frequently asked questions as if anybody on earth other than them would even give a **** to ask that, for sure they are tripping dragon balls on Planet Erwin as predictable cheers lol


To me, the fact that they launch an incomplete website (or scrapped the old one for an incomplete one), says it all.. You can't even read the FAQ or any of the menu's. I just see the same page
"So wanna learn more about this game? Come back in 2 months time.."
But it does seem to follow their strategy of releasing stuff unfinished
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posted April 26, 2018 03:15 PM
Edited by lordgraa at 15:15, 26 Apr 2018.

Now this is their "new" Faceless and Orc... not sure about the lizzard on the left


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Elvin
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posted April 26, 2018 04:32 PM

Basilisk maybe? Faceless looks almost cute.
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Galaad
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posted April 26, 2018 09:39 PM

I know visuals comes down to personal preference, but seriously, which are the visuals that feel the more Might and Magic like?




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posted April 26, 2018 11:35 PM

That Elemental game feels like CQ with Common Creatures up to Boss tiers, but boringly in 3D to boot. Wonder if it'll lag when launched, or if they'll remember to turn off animations.
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posted June 07, 2018 04:47 AM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 13:11, 07 Jun 2018.

Depth of the past here...

OK.. for 2 years I was wondering if Ubi would do anything creative with the brand. Saw their failed attempts with things like Showdown. Seeing how they got rid of the old brand management and how they did rather OK with their other brands I had hope...

Had.

A mobile ap? Ok, I know the side stuff was the best Ubi had done for the franchise, but this just doesnt look appealing to me. Had hopes, but as I do not play on mobile a do feel really disappointed.

Just wanted to get my impresion out there. See you if they bring out anything of interest for me.
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posted June 07, 2018 05:29 AM

Cheaper to make and easier to pass as a new thing for new players, minus the homm expectations. Heroes is dead, long live might and magic.
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Avonu
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posted June 07, 2018 07:25 AM

If only... Might and Magic is dead too.
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Elvin
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posted June 07, 2018 08:14 AM

With showdown and elemental champions, ubi shows no signs of stopping. The future is bright indeed!
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posted June 07, 2018 08:51 PM

Bright as floating naked women?
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Elvin
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posted June 08, 2018 05:23 AM

Brighter than H6 haven combined. Oh the retinal agony!
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posted June 18, 2018 06:45 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 18:54, 19 Jun 2018.

Elemental Guardians looks like for 6 year old kids, and not even that.

The aesthetics is as far from Heroes 3 and Might and Magic as I can imagine, everything is a frigging cartoon.

For the record, I don't like Creature Quest either, in style mainly.

Anyways, the sheer horror to this Disney "bob the builder" artstyle makes me even wish they brought back Erwin or kept it instead.

Yeah, I said it. As bad as Erwin was he at least kept the franchise adult, non mobile-based, and without a stupid "red vs blue" team fortress theme...

After this it seems the franchise is truly and definitely dead. They didn't even give it a  dignified trailer like EA at least did to CNC rivals (another dumb spinoff of a dead franchise buried by a bad publisher). It was all done in a kids CG with no trace of what Heroes once was...

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posted June 19, 2018 06:10 AM
Edited by Elvin at 06:11, 19 Jun 2018.

NimoStar said:
Yeah, I said it. As bad as Erwin was he at least kept the franchise adult

About that.
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