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Heroes Community > Summoners Academy > Thread: I'm quitting (or not)
Thread: I'm quitting (or not)
LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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Age of erwins is over
posted August 08, 2017 08:04 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 20:04, 08 Aug 2017.

I'm quitting (or not)

"Battle won't be counted because it was completed after the event ended!"

@#$%#$&^. Srsly?

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted August 08, 2017 08:34 PM

Guess this means you didn't get the 3d Lizardman.

Yes last battle must end before the challenge ends.
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AlHazin
AlHazin


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Supreme Hero
Tutto possibile
posted August 08, 2017 08:36 PM

This is the harsh CQ policy, along with a screwed def rate to allow p2w to basically... win.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted August 08, 2017 08:46 PM

AlHazin said:
This is the harsh CQ policy, along with a screwed def rate to allow p2w to basically... win.


I disagree with that statement. All huge spenders have is a small boost to their defense rate. I am not p2w and could (almost) always get what I was after, but it requires time and dedication that's for sure. Paying real money just makes it easier and less of a struggle as you get creatures and upgrade them faster etc.

Don't get me wrong I am not happy at all with how PvP works but I wouldn't say it's p2w. But like with all freemiums, the ones that aren't pay-to-win are fight-to-win.
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AlHazin
AlHazin


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posted August 08, 2017 09:24 PM
Edited by AlHazin at 21:26, 08 Aug 2017.

Hahaha ahh Galaad the one who ranked first had way more prestige than the second, because he had way more blue balls, because of diamonds, earned through money. I checked his defense rate it was like ours.

I ended 19, even though one hour before the end I was 8th. Maybe you noticed.

The problem being the forgive me put stupid and pathetic policy of the game -a policy I totally understand my fellow- to listen to whiners rather than veterans. Money can't make you win against good defense sets, but as the payers email the devs to tell them to drop those defense sets, so as to dismantle all possible defenses, the game will of course follow the desires of those players. And then, as all defenses are screwed, money will make you win.

Those who put (only) time and dedication to the game come in second position. You're just a good player Jelly.

And, adding insult to injury:

TheInfidevs said:
In case you didn't notice, there is a new dungeon set.




Don't worry devs we noticed we noticed.

I'm not an eternal unsatisfied, many things are great in this game, but the global policy will always be decided by money, not by logic, not my merit, not by what is best.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted August 08, 2017 10:02 PM

AlHazin said:
Hahaha ahh Galaad the one who ranked first had way more prestige than the second, because he had way more blue balls, because of diamonds, earned through money. I checked his defense rate it was like ours.


ZFD had way more prestige than the second but he had a solid 60% defense rate which is galaxies better than at least mine (don't know about yours, me around 13%). Even if #1 is p2w, rank 2 and 3 are accessible, and many members have made it here, including Markmasters, Hayenne, Dulkan, and possibly others, and more than once, those are not p2w.

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Money can't make you win against good defense sets, but as the payers email the devs to tell them to drop those defense sets, so as to dismantle all possible defenses, the game will of course follow the desires of those players.


This is actually quite the assumption, who tells you payers are asking to nerf defense? Payers are the first victims of the low defense rates, they can be defeated by someone 150 levels below them!
I find it more likely that is the more casuals and/or unlucky players who were annoyed by the old 3 waves template, as they couldn't do anything against templars (which also got nerfed, additionally).

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Those who put (only) time and dedication to the game come in second position. You're just a good player Jelly.


Any strong player I battle against (be it a p2w or f2p one) usually revenge directly, they are spending the time behind the screen just as much.
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AlHazin
AlHazin


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posted August 08, 2017 10:25 PM

Are they? I've seen Mantastic with an awful low amount of prestige, and a low def rate, despite the fact that he has a 4d fallen angel, thus putting money into the game. He's not the only one, I've seen many fallen angels' players with low defs.
Mantastic is not a p2w to say, or not only, at least he knows what he does, but many players rely solely on money and have always had a low def rate because money doesn't buy everything, you need some strategy as well.

Those ones have surely emailed the team about def templar.

Anyway, not like I'm gonna change the game, but you know as well as me that dungeon is screwed lately, we have gone back to 6 months ago, but with more creatures, players, and knowledge of the game. If they know what they are doing too, they will switch back to old 3 waves' set. Or find something more interesting to do.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted August 08, 2017 10:36 PM

I'm expecting some changes in PvP but on the other hand this week was better than previous one imo, I could predict better and defenses were more enjoyable to pass (for the hard ones, I even lost a few). A mistake from the devs side is they didn't wait for the balance change to change the templates. I'm hoping for the best, since the start of the game they have showed many times they were sensible to their playerbase's feedback and many decisions have gone in favor of free players (Tower giving greater essence, dungeon rewards from top 3 to top 100, doubled drop rates, essences for all sizes etc etc etc), call me optimist but I keep faith and believe the PvP will be improved in the foreseeable future.
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AlHazin
AlHazin


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posted August 08, 2017 10:39 PM

Me too ^^ I keep faith that it will take a better and sharper shape in the future.
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Isildur
Isildur


Adventuring Hero
posted August 23, 2017 01:16 AM

AlHazin said:
This is the harsh CQ policy, along with a screwed def rate to allow p2w to basically... win.



Sticker member here, we all hate the new defense setup. Before only good people can break your defense, now everyone can.
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