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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Disrupting Ray
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted April 23, 2018 05:57 PM

Sorceresses applying the spell, is not the same as using your heroes turn to cast the spell. The question is how often do you use your heroes turn to cast Disrupting Ray?

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 10, 2020 09:47 AM

How would you guys feel about Disrupting Ray being a mass spell at expert Air Magic? (It does'nt have to be -5 defense at expert, it could be -3 or -4.)
Do you think it would make you cast the spell more or is it mostly for watering down a single blinded units defense? Would it perhaps be too powerful as a mass spell or would it make it less powerful if it was decreased to -3 or -4?

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Hourglass
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posted March 10, 2020 08:05 PM
Edited by Hourglass at 21:42, 10 Mar 2020.

I think the ray is good at it is, the effect isn't really that bad. The main reason why we're not using it that much is that it's a lvl 2 spell: by the time you build mage guild lvl 2, you already have plenty of good spells in your disposal, and the spells you have are a bit more straightforward, and don't necessarary require multiple uses.

Also, if it was changed to mass spell, that somewhat mean a complete rework for the spell, starting from the spell animation especially.

I think the best buff would be to make it more accessiable.

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FirePaladin
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posted March 10, 2020 08:56 PM

It would be OP as a mass spell (at least in short multiplayer). Just imagine a hero with def slightly higher than your att, and you lower all his units' defense by 3 or 4. It could make you win the battle easily, especially if the effect stacks and you buff your troops.

But this just one side of this, and not a very common one. I myself like how in H5 some spells had a mass version, where the effect was weaker than the regular spell. Sadly, this is probably impossible to implement in H3.

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 10, 2020 11:43 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 23:46, 10 Mar 2020.

@FirePaladin I fear it would also be too powerful as a mass spell, but it's very easy to change the effect, it could be -2, -3 or -4, it does'nt have to be -5.

I just mained Aenain with Disrupting Ray specialty recently, but not one single time did I cast Disrupting Ray, there were simply better spells to cast. That was a bit disappointing.
I just wondered how this spell could become more attractive. I have lowered mana cost a little, which helps I suppose, but I was wondering if it would be better as a mass spell, but perhaps it would be OP.

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FirePaladin
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posted March 11, 2020 12:09 AM

phoenix4ever said:
@FirePaladin I fear it would also be too powerful as a mass spell, but it's very easy to change the effect, it could be -2, -3 or -4, it does'nt have to be -5.

I just mained Aenain with Disrupting Ray specialty recently, but not one single time did I cast Disrupting Ray, there were simply better spells to cast. That was a bit disappointing.
I just wondered how this spell could become more attractive. I have lowered mana cost a little, which helps I suppose, but I was wondering if it would be better as a mass spell, but perhaps it would be OP.


Disrupting Ray is usually cast in scenario maps, where you have to kill 100 Rust Dragons or another crazy stack without taking losses.

Mass effect could be added with a min. value of -3, that's true, without making it too OP. In my example up there I only discussed a pretty restricted scenario, but to be honest, it would be OP only if it has a value lower than -3. True, it would be a little to the OP side on early maps, but it's weaker later on, still being a nice spell to have and cast sometimes (Prayer is OP in early too, but not many people even take Water Magic).

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 11, 2020 12:20 AM

So you think -3 mass would perhaps be okay? (For Aenain it would be -5 mass though.)
But perhaps the spell is mostly for those insane power stacks and then Aenain probably just need another specialty instead.

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