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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Pick one of these
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted August 21, 2019 11:00 PM

Poll Question:
Pick one of these

If you could choose one of these powerful spells or artifacts, on your main hero, which would you choose and why?

Responses:
Expert Town Portal
Shackles of War
Wizard's Well
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Oddball13579
Oddball13579


Supreme Hero
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posted August 21, 2019 11:06 PM

I voted Expert Town Portal. But I'm torn between that and Wizard's Well.

On a large or above map, Expert Town Portal without a doubt. Being able to hop from town to town is a definite strategic advantage.

On medium maps or smaller, Wizard's Well. Full spell points every day? On smaller maps you can easily dominate the enemies and corner them. Literally no way they would be able to run from you if you had DD.

Of course it depends on the situation I'm in. I might take WW or ETP depending on the circumstances. But I'd take ETP 6/10 times.
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monere
monere


Supreme Hero
posted August 22, 2019 12:10 PM

Ok, I'll agree that WW is a good artifact, but I still won't place at the same level with TP and shackles. These 2 are game winners, ww is not.

I am torn between the 2, but I HAD to vote expert TP because it's too powerful

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted August 22, 2019 04:05 PM

Thanks guys.
I agree with you Expert TP is the most powerful, especially in maps with many towns, it is ridiculous really.
I also think Shackles and WW are very powerful. Shackles probably takes second place.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted August 22, 2019 04:27 PM

Guys, avoid picking the obvious TP, else Phoenix will weaken it one further step, making then to teleport to next square while taking half movement.  

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted August 22, 2019 04:49 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 16:50, 22 Aug 2019.

LOL Salamandre, I can do what I want in my game, can't I?
TP in my game always takes me to nearest town, while it works as normal for AI. (a big reason why the game is sometimes really hard, but I welcome a challenge)

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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


Famous Hero
posted August 22, 2019 05:54 PM

Nerfing Town Portal is pointless. Playing big maps without it is just a PITA.

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Oddball13579
Oddball13579


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posted August 22, 2019 07:35 PM

gatecrasher said:
Nerfing Town Portal is pointless. Playing big maps without it is just a PITA.
Amen
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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted August 22, 2019 07:58 PM

Reclamation, for example. I think that Reclamation is players favourite. H4's TP is 3 level, other players haven't TP. And TP owner behaves powerfully. He/she loses a game. Phoenix's idea isn't new and harder game.
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monere
monere


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posted August 22, 2019 08:03 PM

ghost, my man, have I ever told you that I have no idea what you're talking about... in any thread, and on any topic? First of all, your english is more broken than... whatever.... and secondly, what on earth has Reclamation anything to do with this thread? And what the heck is Reclamation anyway?!? Probably only you can understand yourself... and only when you're sober

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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted August 22, 2019 08:10 PM

Reclamation (SoD) hasn't TP. I recommend you play Reclamation. Remember TP isn't powerful.
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monere
monere


Supreme Hero
posted August 22, 2019 08:14 PM

Ghost said:
Reclamation (SoD) hasn't TP. I recommend you play Reclamation. Remember TP isn't powerful.
so, it's a map?

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted August 22, 2019 08:24 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 20:26, 22 Aug 2019.

Well I could also just ban TP, but that also messes up AI and spell probabilities in towns.
With normal TP I feel I already won the game when I learn Advanced Town Portal, at least VS AI. The game becomes so extremely easy, that it feels pointless to continue playing. That's why I changed it.
I wish TP worked in another way, for example:
Unskilled/Basic: Nearest town.
Advanced: Pick between 2 closest towns.
Expert: Pick between 3 closest towns.

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Oddball13579
Oddball13579


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posted August 22, 2019 08:30 PM

Or make it like how it works in Heroes 6. When you cast town portal it teleports you to the nearest town. And then you can cast it to portal to any other town you own.

Or just increase it's movement point cost.
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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted August 22, 2019 08:46 PM

Ok Phoenix!

@Monere

Reclamation is a SoD map by 3DO
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Oddball13579
Oddball13579


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posted August 22, 2019 08:50 PM

Ghost said:
Reclamation is a SoD map by 3DO
This is probably the most legible and understandable Ghost has ever been! Has the apocalypse started? I believe my walls are dripping blood.
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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted August 22, 2019 09:01 PM

Aha, I thought you-all know about map. So I added to favourite map. In its case now I play Reclamation. Pretty good.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted August 22, 2019 09:07 PM

Let's not make fun of Ghost, I always try to understand him, even though it's usually pretty hard.
Can't say I am very good at Finnish either, yksi, kaksi, kolme...

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monere
monere


Supreme Hero
posted August 22, 2019 09:10 PM

someday, before I die, I will play that map, ghost. Just to commemorate you, I will play it, even though normally I only play randomly generated maps. But I will play it in your memory

@oddball... yeah, he's finally been coherent, and understood what he's said. Which is why I dedicate him the playing of that map

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monere
monere


Supreme Hero
posted August 22, 2019 09:14 PM

phoenix4ever said:
Let's not make fun of Ghost, I always try to understand him, even though it's usually pretty hard.
Can't say I am very good at Finnish either, yksi, kaksi, kolme...


oh, don't worry. I try to understand him, too. It's just that it's extremely hard. I have met people who have known good english, people who have known no english, and people who have known some english. But this guy is unlike any of those people that I've met. He knows more words than those who know little, or no english, but he speaks worse than them, which is why for me he's an enigma. He knows lots of english words, but the way he puts them together (without absolutely any grammatical sense) is daunting to me

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