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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted April 20, 2020 09:20 PM

Aww right, damn it.
Yeah I did actually "trash it", I mean you can assemble it, but it only gives the +6 mana. Would be nice if it found a place between useless and OP though.

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BTB
BTB


Known Hero
posted April 22, 2020 02:55 AM
Edited by BTB at 05:57, 22 Apr 2020.

Interesting observation... Death Ripple doesn't affect "living" units, it affects all non-undead units.

Also have been looking into making Earthquake less garbage. It seems that the base power is not actually used at all. The power per level gets a little... wonky. But here's some values:

3 = Always destroys 1 section of wall
6 = Always destroys 2 sections of wall
12 = Always destroys 3 sections of wall
18 = Always destroys 3 sections of wall + lowers drawbridge

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted April 22, 2020 09:25 AM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 09:55, 22 Apr 2020.

BTB Don't know if you know, but I just found out something awesome:
It always bothered me Gold and Black Dragons could'nt be resurrected, but by making them immune to mind and fire spells and giving them the Earth/Magma Elemental flag, they also become immune to Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning.
Now that is my new Gold and Black Dragons right there, still immune to Curse, Blind, Hypnotize, Berserk, Misfortune, Sorrow, Fire Shield, Fireball, Inferno, Armageddon, Magic Arrow, Lightning Bolt and Chain Lighting, but can now be resurrected.

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RerryR
RerryR


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posted April 22, 2020 09:37 AM

phoenix4ever said:
BTB Don't know if you know, but I just found out something awesome:
It always bothered me Gold and Black Dragons could'nt be resurrected, but by making them immune to mind and fire spells and giving them the Earth/Magma Elemental flag, they also become immune to Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning.
Now that is my new Gold and Black Dragons right there, still immune to Curse, Blind, Hypnotize, Berserk, Misfortune, Fireball, Inferno, Armageddon, Lightning Bolt and Chain Lighting, but can now be resurrected.


phoenix finally after all these years you managed to do it! congratulations

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted April 22, 2020 09:41 AM

Don't know if ironic or not?, but thanks.

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BTB
BTB


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posted April 22, 2020 02:27 PM

Oh, I'm aware. If you'll recall, I told you where to make those changes

I was always more bothered at the similarities between Gold and Black Dragons, especially since I'm of the "trash Conflux" mindset and would rather see Rampart have Phoenixes like they did before. So I split the difference in my own hack - Fire and Mind immunity for Gold Dragons and full magic immunity for Black. Gold Dragons can be rezzed and buffed, while Black Dragons are just the same as ever.

(One thing you probably should note is that the Fire immunity gives all of your dragons something that they previously didn't have - Armageddon immunity.)

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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


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posted April 22, 2020 02:39 PM

Trash the Conflux?


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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


Famous Hero
posted April 22, 2020 02:42 PM

Seriously, Conflux seems like an alpha version of a generic soulless mod. I don't need to go into details about this, if you feel like I do, you'll understand it. The question is how do we salvage it?
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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posted April 22, 2020 02:49 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 14:50, 22 Apr 2020.

Gandalf196 said:
Seriously, Conflux seems like an alpha version of a generic soulless mod. I don't need to go into details about this, if you feel like I do, you'll understand it. The question is how do we salvage it?


Replace it with what it should have been... Which is exactly the reason why the devs made it (Conflux) that bad...

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BTB
BTB


Known Hero
posted April 22, 2020 03:03 PM

Well, as much as I'd enjoy removing Conflux, you really can't do it without leaving a giant, Conflux-shaped hole in the damn game. If you're curious what I did end up doing, check out the Readme in my other thread.

In the meantime, I may go ahead and do a small update of this guide today with my most recent findings:

How Earthquake works in the settings (and how to make it not suck)

How to make a spell mass target at ANY level

Clarification of what the unliving/undead flags do (RE: Death Ripple)

Suggestion to edit ArrayTxt.txt to show numerical values

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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


Famous Hero
posted April 22, 2020 03:03 PM

Oh, dear, please no! Really, that forge is too out of sync; it does not fit in Heroes of Might and Magic (I know sci-fi is big in Might and Magic, but, here, it'd feel like an elephant in a car). I was thinking more along the lines of a pixie-like town:

Tier 1 - Sprites
Tier 2 - Leprachauns
Tier 3 - Satyrs
Tier 4 - Sharpshooters
Tier 5 - Enchanters
Tier 6 - Magic elementals
Tier 7 - Faerie dragons

Heroes:

Fairy - 5/20/30/45 - most common secondary: luck and water/earth magic
Warden - 25/40/15/20 -most common secondary: armourer and archery


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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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Undercover modder
posted April 22, 2020 03:11 PM

Gandalf196 said:
Oh, dear, please no! Really, that forge is too out of sync; it does not fit in Heroes of Might and Magic (I know sci-fi is big in Might and Magic, but, here, it'd feel like an elephant in a car). I was thinking more along the lines of a pixie-like town:

Tier 1 - Sprites
Tier 2 - Leprachauns
Tier 3 - Satyrs
Tier 4 - Sharpshooters
Tier 5 - Enchanters
Tier 6 - Magic elementals
Tier 7 - Faerie dragons

Heroes:

Fairy - 5/20/30/45 - most common secondary: luck and water/earth magic
Warden - 25/40/15/20 -most common secondary: armourer and archery




Well, I always really loved the sci-fi thing, with the alien race creating many living things, demons being aliens, Angels technically being aliens as well, the technology still lurking, waiting for the truth to be uncovered, etc., but you can replace Conflux with anything you want by me, I'm actually kinda ok with it as it is now, since it fits the plot very well, with Escaton, the Elemental Lords, Ancients, getting rid of Kreegans and such.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted April 22, 2020 07:25 PM

BTB said:
Oh, I'm aware. If you'll recall, I told you where to make those changes

I was always more bothered at the similarities between Gold and Black Dragons, especially since I'm of the "trash Conflux" mindset and would rather see Rampart have Phoenixes like they did before. So I split the difference in my own hack - Fire and Mind immunity for Gold Dragons and full magic immunity for Black. Gold Dragons can be rezzed and buffed, while Black Dragons are just the same as ever.

(One thing you probably should note is that the Fire immunity gives all of your dragons something that they previously didn't have - Armageddon immunity.)

Yes, I know, I know.
First I gave Gold and Black Dragons fire and mind immunity, but did'nt think of giving them the Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning immunity from earth elementals and did'nt think it was possible either and thought they might get Meteor Shower vulnerability as well, but I'm very happy with how they are now.
Green and Red Dragons only have mind immunity, so they are not immune to Armageddon.

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BTB
BTB


Known Hero
posted April 22, 2020 07:38 PM

Meteor Shower vulnerability is a different setting than Lightning immunity, so you're good.

As for Fire/Mind immunity... there's actually quite a bit of overlap between the two. Fire obviously entails a lot that mind doesn't, but fire immunity covers all of the big mind spells except for Hypnotize. I left off mind immunity since A) Hypnotize already has a bad rap and this might help, and B) dragons are notably vulnerable to mind control in MM7, and are one of the best possible targets for the Enslave spell (the MM7 equivalent of Hypnotize).

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted April 22, 2020 07:44 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 20:21, 22 Apr 2020.

But mind also includes Frenzy, Mirth and Sorrow, which they are also supposed to be immune to. Well there is always the opportunity to buff Hypnotize. (I did.)

Do you know if it's possible to take all the positive spell immunities from Earth, Air and Water Elementals, so Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, Meteor Shower, Ice Bolt and Frost Ring and put them on one creature? Cause ideally Gold and Black Dragons should be immune to all of them.
Green and Red could get Ice Bolt and Frost Ring. (And Lightning Bolt and Fireball, but those come with Chain Lightning immunity and fire immunity.)

Btw. what is this arraytxt file?, I don't seem to remember it.

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BTB
BTB


Known Hero
posted April 22, 2020 08:39 PM

Frenzy is also a fire spell. Mind just covers mirth and sorrow, which.... 'eh?

And sorry, bucko, but the elemental immunities are one per unit.

ArrayTxt.txt is from h3bitmap.lod.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted April 22, 2020 10:28 PM

Yeah if also Fire Immune, that also covers Frenzy.

Yeah I thought so too, oh well.

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BTB
BTB


Known Hero
posted April 22, 2020 11:33 PM

phoenix4ever said:
Excellent work BTB.
By the way I have changed Resurrection and Animate Dead so they are only permanent at Expert Earth, this can be done at 1A1C88, change 750983FE02 to 909083FE03.
You might wanna add that to the guide.


Going back to this... that 02 at 1A1C8C looks like it should be the only value that needs to be changed and you should be able to set it to any level. If somebody would like to test this for me, I'd appreciate it; it may be a little bit before I get the chance, myself.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted April 23, 2020 11:43 AM

I can test it when I get home, later today.
I'm not entirely sure what changing 7509 means either, but 02 -> 03 is probably advanced -> expert.

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BTB
BTB


Known Hero
posted April 23, 2020 03:56 PM
Edited by BTB at 15:56, 23 Apr 2020.

phoenix4ever said:
I can test it when I get home, later today.
I'm not entirely sure what changing 7509 means either, but 02 -> 03 is probably advanced -> expert.


There's no probably about it, that's definitely what it is. Changing the command before it is probably just a hacky way of accomplishing what could more easily be done just by changing that one value, but I can't say for sure until it gets tested.

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