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Heroes Community > Other Games Exist Too > Thread: Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous
Thread: Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous
LordInsane
LordInsane


Known Hero
posted March 06, 2020 04:37 PM
Edited by LordInsane at 16:37, 06 Mar 2020.

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous

Presently the Kickstarter campaign for the indirect sequel to Owlcat's Kingmaker rpg, Wrath of the Righteous, is ongoing. What may be of interest to this community is that the next stretch goal is for tactical army battles inspired by Heroes III.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/
Explicitly inspired by Heroes III, and the update even gives a nod to Heroes II!

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OmegaDestroyer
OmegaDestroyer

Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
posted March 06, 2020 05:42 PM

I have zero faith in Owlcat to make a polished project.  Pathfinder: Kingmaker was released in such a pathetic state it left a bad taste in my mouth.  The kingdom builder aspect of it, which was one of the major selling points, was absolute garbage.  The adviser system was even worse, forcing you to lose advisers at certain points and never given any notice of it.

I have heard patches have fixed things but the damage is done.  From what I've read of how awful the end game is (which at least is actually playable unlike at release), I have no desire to even bother firing it back up.
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LordInsane
LordInsane


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posted March 06, 2020 05:44 PM

It is strange how different impressions you can get reading in different places. No, I did not find the end game awful, nor did the people I've talked to that played Kingmaker to the end game before now.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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DoR Modder
posted March 06, 2020 06:19 PM

Pretty, interesting... But I see the game won't be a HoMM-like game, right? Hope they make it well with those 1.6 millions.

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OmegaDestroyer
OmegaDestroyer

Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
posted March 06, 2020 07:14 PM

LordInsane said:
It is strange how different impressions you can get reading in different places. No, I did not find the end game awful, nor did the people I've talked to that played Kingmaker to the end game before now.


Did you play at launch?  I was a KS backer and the game was released in a barely playable state and you could not even beat it because the last few chapters were not even finished.  

At the end of the day, I vote with my dollars and unless OwlCat truly does something amazing with Wrath of the Righteous, I will pass that too.  
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LordInsane
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posted March 06, 2020 07:18 PM
Edited by LordInsane at 19:19, 06 Mar 2020.

FirePaladin said:
Pretty, interesting... But I see the game won't be a HoMM-like game, right? Hope they make it well with those 1.6 millions.

Not in general, no, it is an RPG - Baldur's Gate-inspired - but with an added strategy layer. I guess one could say it approaches things from the exact opposite direction HOMM did back in the day - adding strategy elements to an RPG game, instead of RPG elements to a strategy game.
OmegaDestroyer said:
LordInsane said:
It is strange how different impressions you can get reading in different places. No, I did not find the end game awful, nor did the people I've talked to that played Kingmaker to the end game before now.


Did you play at launch?  I was a KS backer and the game was released in a barely playable state and you could not even beat it because the last few chapters were not even finished.  

At the end of the day, I vote with my dollars and unless OwlCat truly does something amazing with Wrath of the Righteous, I will pass that too.  

I did, yes, as another backer. But I will say I did not play through the game at launch, I held off there for a few months.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted March 06, 2020 09:51 PM

LordInsane said:
FirePaladin said:
Pretty, interesting... But I see the game won't be a HoMM-like game, right? Hope they make it well with those 1.6 millions.

Not in general, no, it is an RPG - Baldur's Gate-inspired - but with an added strategy layer. I guess one could say it approaches things from the exact opposite direction HOMM did back in the day - adding strategy elements to an RPG game, instead of RPG elements to a strategy game.
OmegaDestroyer said:
LordInsane said:
It is strange how different impressions you can get reading in different places. No, I did not find the end game awful, nor did the people I've talked to that played Kingmaker to the end game before now.


Did you play at launch?  I was a KS backer and the game was released in a barely playable state and you could not even beat it because the last few chapters were not even finished.  

At the end of the day, I vote with my dollars and unless OwlCat truly does something amazing with Wrath of the Righteous, I will pass that too.  

I did, yes, as another backer. But I will say I did not play through the game at launch, I held off there for a few months.


Yeah, I know that. I just said that I hope they will use that money wisely.

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thundertitan
thundertitan

Tavern Dweller
posted March 07, 2020 09:26 AM


Well you really shouldn't expect Kickstarter games to be polished right at release, since, you know, we're talking about companies who can't fund themselves on their own.

As long as they eventually fix the game i for one will allow it. I mean i allowed it for HoMMIV, and that game used to crash after battles if the music was on.

Anyhow, the next stretch goal is apparently inspired by HoMM3:


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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


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King of the Elder Dragons
posted December 03, 2022 10:01 PM

thundertitan said:

Well you really shouldn't expect Kickstarter games to be polished right at release, since, you know, we're talking about companies who can't fund themselves on their own.


Not all kickstarter games are like that, thundertitan, some come out very bright and polished from the start.



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