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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Mushroom rings - what are they?
Thread: Mushroom rings - what are they?
Reinc
Reinc

Tavern Dweller
posted May 13, 2020 10:32 AM

Mushroom rings - what are they?

There is a Dungeon structure in HoMM III called Mushroom Rings that increases weekly growth of Troglodytes. What is it supposed to mean? Is it a reference to something, like the "fairy ring" phenomena?
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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posted May 13, 2020 10:37 AM

Trogs like mushroom! Trogs like to munch and smoke them! And then trogs are more!
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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 13, 2020 11:26 AM

It's a natural phenomenon, have a look.
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FirePaladin
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posted May 13, 2020 11:29 AM

Elvin said:
It's a natural phenomenon, have a look.


True. And trogs like mushrooms! So trogs happy to live there!
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Tavern Dweller
posted May 13, 2020 12:14 PM

Elvin said:
It's a natural phenomenon, have a look.


This is exactly what I meant when asking about faerie rings. But there is one problem: the objects that appear on town screen look nothing like the faerie rings. Am I missing something? Or maybe there is a different reasoning for this structure?

I just want to make sense of it.
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FirePaladin
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posted May 13, 2020 12:20 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 12:20, 13 May 2020.

Reinc said:
Elvin said:
It's a natural phenomenon, have a look.


This is exactly what I meant when asking about faerie rings. But there is one problem: the objects that appear on town screen look nothing like the faerie rings. Am I missing something? Or maybe there is a different reasoning for this structure?

I just want to make sense of it.


It just grew on roofs instead, that's all. Plus, I doubt the devs thought it so deeply and just put some mushrooms because why not . After all, this wasn't their top priority when making the game.
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posted May 13, 2020 01:50 PM

I don't see any fairy rings on top of the green mushrooms. I just see new orange mushrooms growing beside the green mushrooms in random places. This is what's bugging me. Why "rings"? Where are the rings in these Mushroom Rings?

If it was a reference to some sort of work of fiction or folk lore, or something, then I could get it. But as of now, I don't see what this name for the structure means, and what the structue is supposed to do in-universe.
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FirePaladin
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posted May 13, 2020 02:48 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 14:49, 13 May 2020.

Not everything is supposed to have a deep meaning. Besides, the orange mushrooms are basically just an upgrade to the already existent mushroom ring that appears together with the dwelling (Trogs like mushroom; no mushroom, no trog!). Those orange mushrooms are more delicious.

Trogs are probably just some cavern dwelling creatures which happen to like mushrooms.
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posted May 14, 2020 02:01 AM

But the initial green mushrooms are not mushroom rings either! And I'm not looking for a deep meaning, I'm looking for any meaning at all. I'm okay with the idea that trogs eat mushrooms, but that still doesn't explain the "rings" part of Mushroom Rings.
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posted May 14, 2020 02:17 AM

What if the mushroom ring is extended beyond the display? Or if it was "cut" by the trogs to be able to enter their houses?
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posted May 16, 2020 11:46 AM

Mind if I come up with a theory? haha


Based on the fact that the humanoid races are the progenitors of Gods and the fauna and flora are native and specific for each planet (Axeoth, Enroth), I think that the troggs are humans who, for some reason, had to live (due to hiding or exploring) in the Nighon caves where this kind of mushrooms grows. Being one of the only thing that one could eat in a cave, in time, the humans evolved/mutated into troggs, that is why their colour (green) is common.

The orange colour might show that there are two types of mushrooms or that the warlocks fused the green mushrooms with fire magic and resulted in modified orange shrooms which the troggs continued to consume.


The mushroom rings could be a place of rituals to worship an underground God or the precisely the Earth God or just a place to get high haha

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FirePaladin
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posted May 16, 2020 11:56 AM
Edited by FirePaladin at 11:56, 16 May 2020.

dj said:
The mushroom rings could be a place of rituals to worship an underground God or the precisely the Earth God or just a place to get high haha


I say it's both. In ancient times, people usually combined these two (and even nowadays, many small "civilizations" do this, through plants, etc.)

That could explain the name of "Infernal Troglodyte".
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posted May 16, 2020 12:02 PM

Yeah, maybe since the Inferno faction allied with the Dungeon faction, the heretics taught the Warlock some fire magic tricks

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posted May 16, 2020 12:06 PM

I love that someone was curious enough about this to make an entire thread LOL. HoMM has the greatest community. That's a cool theory too, very similar to the Falmer in the Elder Scrolls and how the Dwemmer tricked them into blinding themselves with mushrooms and they devolved into goblin-like monsters over the centuries.
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posted May 16, 2020 06:43 PM

This thread reminds me that I always wondered who's this Marletto and why does he own so many towers.

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posted May 18, 2020 11:57 AM

Romanov77 said:
This thread reminds me that I always wondered who's this Marletto and why does he own so many towers.
Your comment made me look up Marletto Tower. I had no idea it was based on Martello Towers!
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posted May 18, 2020 12:45 PM

I don't know about mushroom ring. But I know magic mushroom, because I tried magic mushroom in Amsterdam. I saw different color and sphere form. Colors are different red, green and orange form. For example, from normal color to dark shade, and change for light, etc is a good trip. It gave me laugh. Ok HoMM3 subterranean mushrooms are the death cap, I guess. Such! I hope info is benefit.

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evildustructor


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posted May 18, 2020 02:22 PM

dj said:
Yeah, maybe since the Inferno faction allied with the Dungeon faction, the heretics taught the Warlock some fire magic tricks


arent the warlocks pretty proficient in the fire magics? would make sense at least

and the above reply was the best ive seen LOlLllllll

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Romanov77
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posted May 18, 2020 04:13 PM

firespirit said:
Romanov77 said:
This thread reminds me that I always wondered who's this Marletto and why does he own so many towers.
Your comment made me look up Marletto Tower. I had no idea it was based on Martello Towers!


Ironically, I just discovered that on the hills around my neighborhood there are like four of those lol.

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Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 20, 2020 09:58 AM

Quote:


arent the warlocks pretty proficient in the fire magics? would make sense at least


Most warlocks have earth spells as specialty, only one has bloodlust, so their main proficiency is earth magic. The next magic school they get from leveling up is fire magic, but probably because they keep in touch with the heretics and learn things from them

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