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blizzardboy
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posted February 25, 2021 09:46 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 04:21, 26 Feb 2021.

Human cruelty in the artificial selection of animal traits

Nevermind.
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posted February 25, 2021 10:01 PM

Good topic idea, breeding animals that can't bare babies without dying because they are too small, or can't breathe because their noses are too small... that is actually animal cruelty. However...

...sadly you are actually only interested in talking about sins of white people in the disguise of this topic. Why don't you just keep a single topic open about that so it doesn't have to be discussed on every thread
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posted February 25, 2021 10:16 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 22:17, 25 Feb 2021.

This is probably the only logic and actually good thread opened by BB. I totally agree, this breeding thing is bs, I experienced it personally, repeatedly, it leads to animals full of bs with tons of problems and dang, even if they don't have medical problems, you're "lucky" enough to get a mentally crazy animal at least. And these animals don't even necessarily have what it takes to survive alone.

You keep the BLM propaganda to yourself Soyboy, I am not getting into it (also due to lack of time to spend on writing nearly pointless forum posts).
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posted February 25, 2021 10:19 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 01:09, 26 Feb 2021.

It is primarily an industry driven by privileged people that cash a lot money for an animal with some ridiculous cosmetic trait. The result is animal cruelty.

You can't/shouldn't isolate the crime from the source or the motivation that produces it. That's counterproductive. For example: if this was a crime primarily committed by poor people, it would be illegal already. The fact that it's done by the rich isn't just a correlation: it's causal to why it is still widespread.
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posted February 25, 2021 10:23 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 22:24, 25 Feb 2021.

FirePaladin said:
This is probably the only logic and actually good thread opened by BB.


All of my threads are excellent. I can't always expect them to be appreciated because their meaning is too deep.
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posted February 26, 2021 03:22 AM

As this is not WW it deserves an answer.

The topic has potential, but the BS at the end is the usual and factually not supported racism you spout now and then. You nitpick                                         on an infinitesimal detail while the whole design totally obliterates your propaganda, when considered.

As of November 2019, 32 countries formally recognize non-human animal sentience, they are: Austria, Australia, Belgium, Bulgaria, Chile, Croatia, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Spain, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom.Link

I don't see many non white countries in that list. Actually not a single one. Good job for reminding us who is backward and who isn't.

What about Captain SJW making one worthwhile topic about the ethnic composition of countries not supporting gender equality, sexual minorities rights and freedom of speech?

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posted February 26, 2021 04:21 AM

Nevermind. This was a bad idea.
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posted February 26, 2021 07:51 AM

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blizzardboy said:
--For example: if this was a crime primarily committed by poor people, it would be illegal already.--


A bit of a dead horse already but... you do realise Selective Breeding has been a thing since the time people lived in caves, right?


And yes, it has produced some abominations.

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posted February 26, 2021 10:54 AM

Yes. But this cruelty is dangerous because psychopats like these can prejudice other people! Only human is target of morality.
Animal has no law. And we cant make law because ,animal rights'. We do this law to not produce psychopats. Eg.
Nazists teached kids kill cocks to prepare SS human killers in Hitler Jugend. And we dont have thus situations now.

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posted February 26, 2021 11:20 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 11:28, 26 Feb 2021.

@Lith

Animals were first domesticated back then for survival and sustenance. The topic is specifically about breeding for cosmetic traits that cause medical problems and suffering. Increased technology and understanding means a heightened responsibility compared to the past.
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Kipshasz
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posted February 26, 2021 11:25 AM

given how our above average castrato has spun this towards muh whoyte pypo bad(as per usual), I am inclined to agree with what Jeremy Clarkson had said years ago: a large portion of people in USSA do indeed are mating with vegetables.

A perfectly good topic for a potentially great debate has been ruined once again.
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posted February 26, 2021 11:43 AM
Edited by Lith-Maethor at 11:44, 26 Feb 2021.

Well...

@blizzardboy

Selective Breeding for cosmetic purposes started long before you think it did. White folks were far from the first, we were not even the best at it.

Kipshasz said:
A perfectly good topic for a potentially great debate has been ruined once again.


Did you expect anything else? blizzardsoy poisoned the well from the get-go.
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posted February 26, 2021 02:32 PM

Lith-Maethor said:
@blizzardboy

Selective Breeding for cosmetic purposes started long before you think it did. White folks were far from the first, we were not even the best at it.

Kipshasz said:
A perfectly good topic for a potentially great debate has been ruined once again.


Did you expect anything else? blizzardsoy poisoned the well from the get-go.


refrain from calling people "soy" as it is now equated to the N-word by the weaklings infesting this forum. They'll go cry to Lolbert Daddy Corribus over that.
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posted February 26, 2021 02:48 PM
Edited by blob2 at 14:49, 26 Feb 2021.

Maybe start the topic considering China then?

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posted February 26, 2021 02:57 PM

blob2 said:
Maybe start the topic considering China then?


yeah, whine about stuff that doesn't concern, or affects you in any way shape or form


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posted February 26, 2021 03:23 PM

Well, since China is the biggest exporter worldwide, everything there is highly concerning us, especially the way they handle animals, no sanitary norms, worse ever hygiene etc.

Is not like our economy and social interactions are at abyssal levels right now, and who's to blame?                                                                                                                                                                                      

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posted February 26, 2021 03:27 PM

Salamandre said:
Well, since China is the biggest exporter worldwide, everything there is highly concerning us, especially the way they handle animals, no sanitary norms, worse ever hygiene etc.

Is not like our economy and social interactions are at abyssal levels right now, and who's to blame?                                                                                                                                                                                      


weaklings only care about muh uighyurs in gulags.
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posted February 26, 2021 04:15 PM

blizzardboy said:
It is primarily an industry driven by privileged people that cash a lot money for an animal with some ridiculous cosmetic trait. The result is animal cruelty.


This isn't true. You can find plenty of horrific puppy mills amongst the poor, rural folk. Additionally the suburbs feed this cruelty greatly with breeding fads created by movies. It's hard to find any group of people that don't contribute to this misery.

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posted February 26, 2021 04:19 PM

Kipshasz said:

weaklings only care about muh uighyurs in gulags.


Probably because ethnic genocide is a big deal, but hey, I'm sure keeping your manly image is more important to you.

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posted February 26, 2021 04:25 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 16:33, 26 Feb 2021.

@friendgunnar

Surburbs easily enough falls in the category of "privileged". Getting a pet from one of these more outlandish breeds costs a good bit of money and the expenses to maintain them are also quite high. Also, breeders turn over quite a lot of profit compared to owners themselves, and it is a lucrative industry. As a general rule, people who can afford high-powered legal teams are afforded more rights than other people with de facto subhuman status.

Not that there aren't ways of dealing with the problem. For example, changes in definitions of what makes a perfect example of a breed as followed by judges in dog shows. These definitions are purely subjective so there's no reason they can't be altered. This would have a lot of resistance though, because some "victim" would complain about all of the hard work they put into their dog only to have the standards change to something that isn't cruel and barbaric.

When the behavior and standards from the breeders and the wealthier change, other consumers tend to follow suit.
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