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NimoStar
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posted April 20, 2021 09:49 PM |
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The "Sword of Frost"
The world is destroyed (at least the H3 one, Enroth) when the Sword of frost meets the Sword of Armageddon in combat.
However, do we ever see the famous "sword of frost" even?
I do not mean in cinematics, I mean ingame.
As far as I know, the Sword of Armageddon exists and is very powerful. But there is no "Sword of Frost".
What would be it's stats? Did any mod try to add it? Or am I insane?
I think such an important artifact to the story should at least have had some ingame representation...
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iliveinabox05
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posted April 20, 2021 11:45 PM |
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When I asked a while back about a Sword of Frost, there had not been one added to either H3 or H4.
Not sure if anything has changed since then, but maybe someone has.
You're definitely not insane, it would be a great artifact to add and could be put to good use in a Reckoning campaign 
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fred79
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posted April 20, 2021 11:50 PM |
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what would be the point of having it? wouldn't the possibility of it making contact with a hero who had armageddon's blade kind of, i don't know, nullify that game?
my question is, if those swords clashed and destroyed everything in the blink of an eye, how exactly did anyone escape? or was there already an exodus beforehand?
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FirePaladin
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posted April 20, 2021 11:51 PM |
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iliveinabox05
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posted April 20, 2021 11:52 PM |
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fred79 said:
what would be the point of having it? wouldn't the possibility of it making contact with a hero who had armageddon's blade kind of, i don't know, nullify that game?
my question is, if those swords clashed and destroyed everything in the blink of an eye, how exactly did anyone escape? or was there already an exodus beforehand?
As far as gameplay, I think that can probably be overlooked.
To your question: I think it was said the sword killed anyone within 100 miles of the blast, but those further away, survived.
The ensuing volcanic / tectonic activity is what destroyed the world (made it uninhabitable).
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FirePaladin
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posted April 20, 2021 11:54 PM |
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fred79 said:
what would be the point of having it? wouldn't the possibility of it making contact with a hero who had armageddon's blade kind of, i don't know, nullify that game?
my question is, if those swords clashed and destroyed everything in the blink of an eye, how exactly did anyone escape? or was there already an exodus beforehand?
I'll answer the second question. The swords didn't destroy everything in the blink of an eye. You could say they activated a self-destruct mode instead (without destroying the planet itself, only its surface).
Everything is explained here: https://www.celestialheavens.com/homam-iv/jennifer-bullard-lost-manuscript-files?showall=1&limitstart=
As for why it should be there? Why should Armageddon's Blade be there too? It should be ditched!
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fred79
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posted April 21, 2021 12:01 AM |
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i think they both could be available, as long as they both can't be in the same game/map together. that would make sense.
also, thanks for the info.
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NimoStar
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posted April 21, 2021 12:37 AM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 00:39, 21 Apr 2021.
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Artifacts ingame don't need "lore-only" interaction.
Also, even if hero vs hero fight, in H3, heroes actually never enter combat. They stay off the side on the battlefield, remember?
So there is 0% chance that Sword of Frost and Sword of Armageddon clash ingame, even if it is added...
Also, about the state of Enroth, this is speculation but maybe some parts could still be unhabitable, deep underground and away from tectonic lines. Another possibility are their moons AFAIK? Or some floating structures.
In any case, it will cool down eventually 
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fred79
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posted April 21, 2021 12:50 AM |
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eh, i guess you have a point. i guess i'm just splitting hairs, here. i've been trying to stick to the lore lately.
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VIP
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posted April 21, 2021 10:13 AM |
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Edited by VIP at 10:14, 21 Apr 2021.
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I thinked about this artifact, but eventually may in future (in upgrade camp or other [no original]), but only visible in map. Tarnum don't find SoF.
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Baronus
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posted April 21, 2021 02:59 PM |
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Yes absolutly we must add it to final scenario.
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yasmiel
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posted April 21, 2021 08:25 PM |
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I think it was added in Era of Chaos (mobile game retelling of RoE story). Thats as close as we got.
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NimoStar
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posted April 21, 2021 08:34 PM |
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Tarnum may not have SoF, but Gelu has it in final confrontation.
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VIP
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posted April 22, 2021 10:09 AM |
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Tarnum "still searchs" sword
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Drakon-Deus
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posted April 22, 2021 10:11 AM |
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NimoStar said:
Tarnum may not have SoF, but Gelu has it in final confrontation.
Kilgor has it. Gelu has Armageddon's Blade.
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FirePaladin
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posted April 22, 2021 11:44 AM |
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phoenix4ever
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posted May 24, 2025 12:19 PM |
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I wonder if Sword of Frost will be added to HotA, with the eventual Bulwark update?
If that is the case, it will probably be as broken as Armageddon's Blade and Horn of the Abyss.
It's a shame those artifacts can't be used for "more normal gameplay" or maybe there should just be some "light" versions of them, that are not overpowered...
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Ghost
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Therefore I am
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posted May 24, 2025 12:40 PM |
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Hmm normal, Phoenix4ever!
An example of varied Sword of Frost in H4GS, the Barbarian hero weared Frost Hammer has destroyed Hexis' troops in the final showdown.. I don't need a Sword of Frost against AI Hexis.. Ok I guote from Internet..
Frost Hammer: Increases the hero's Melee Attack by 25, and opponents struck in combat have a chance to be frozen for 2 turns.
So I think that they make a frozen.. But you (Phoenix4ever) said combined artifact, so we look together..
Tiger Helm: Increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Defense by 5, increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Damage by 5, and grants the hero the Negate First Strike ability.
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Tiger Armor: Increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Defense by 25, increases the hero's Speed by 2, and increases the hero's movement by 2
It does "A hero wearing the three artifacts above is granted Regeneration and Dragon strength."
So H3 heroes can't increase Primary skills also speed and damage.. It Sword of Frost can be frozen and it gives lesser than 6 Primary Skills to compare a Armageddon's Blade.. But I sense that Sword of Frost has Water Immune i.e. Protection from the Water, and it can casts Frost Ring or newer water spell type! 
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