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Thread: What Are Heroes of Might and Magic Songs Based on?
LordCameron
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posted May 09, 2021 08:23 PM
Edited by LordCameron at 05:27, 22 May 2021.

What Are Heroes of Might and Magic Songs Based on?

Unless otherwise noted all city songs were composed by Paul Anthony Romero, all other songs were composed by Rob King and Steve Baca and all saxophone pieces were performed by Romero’s partner, Dr. Brock Summers

Heroes I

Mountain town-Bach's Gavottes from English Suite No.6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m6sSiz1vgs (Tomas Bacchetta)
Composed by Rob King?

Plains town-may be based on Prelude in C minor BWV 999 by Bach but is not quite close enough for me to tell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RgC_LHxbzE

Heroes II
There is a MIDI, the original, the gold, and Price of Loyalty order to the songs (Adil Ezzaam) so I’ll do my best to get them in the original order.

Vocalists/Opera Singer: - Karin Mushegain (Female singer): Knight (POL), Sorceress (both SW and POL), Barbarian (POL, with Reid Bruton) - Grant Youngblood: Barbarian (SW), Warlock (SW), Necromancer (SW) - Reid Bruton: Warlock (POL), Barbarian (POL, with Karin Mushegain) (s7upid)

Knights-Goldberg variation number 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c8Bn0T4RFo
Lyrics are Based on Psalm 115:5 from the Bible:Sie haben Mäuler, und reden nicht; sie haben Augen, und sehen nicht;  sie haben Ohren, und hören nicht; sie haben Nasen, und riechen nicht;  Sie haben Hände, und greifen nicht; Füße haben sie, und gehen nicht; sie reden nicht durch ihren Hals. They have mouths, but they speak not ; they have eyes , and see not; They have ears , and hear not; they have noses , but they smell not ; They have hands , and do not interfere ; Feet they have , and do not go ; they do not speak through their throat.  (Christos Vozikis)

Necromancer-lyrics are based on Thus Spoke Zarathustra: Deine wilden
wilden Hunde wollen in die Freiheit;
sie bellen vor Lust in ihrem Keller,
wenn dein Geist alle Gefängnisse zu lösen trachtet.
sie bellen vor Lust
Deine wilden
wilden Hunde wollen in die Freiheit; sie bellen vor Lust
vor Lust (Plateo_)
Your wild, wild dogs want out into freedom; they are barking in their cellar with passion, when your soul is striving to free all confinements. they are barking with passion. Your wild, wild dogs want out into freedom; they are barking with passion with passion.  (Selene)

Warlock-sounds like it might be based on a Goldberg variation
Lyrics are based on Thus Spoke Zarathustra:Willst du heute dein Feuer in die Täler tragen?
Fürchtest du nicht, fürchtest du nicht,
fürchtest du nicht des Brandstifters Strafen? (jecht6)
Will you now carry your fire into the valleys? Do you not fear, do you not fear, do you not fear the arsonist's punishment?  (Arkangel630)

Sorceress-Lyrics are based on Psalm 14:1 from the Bible: "Die Toren sagen in ihrem Herzen: Es ist kein Gott, es ist kein Gott." "Die Toren sehen in ihrem Herzen: Es ist kein Gott, kein Gott." Which would mean in english: "The fools say in their hearts: There is no god, there is no god." The fools see in their hearts: There is no god, no god." (Griveis Otter)

Barbarian-lyrics are based on Thus Spoke Zarathustra: Oder gehst du jetzt selber
auf den Wegen
auf den Wegen
Oder gehst du jetzt auf den Wegen der Diebe, du Freund der Bösen?(Suralin0)
Or do you go now alone on the Path on the Path Or do you go now on the Path of Thieves, you Friend of Evildoers?  (King Haggard)

Wizard-sounds like it might be based on a Goldberg variation

Heroes II Price of Loyalty

Sorceress-lyrics are based on Revelations 4:11:Herr, du bist würdig, zu nehmen Preis und Ehre und Kraft; denn du hast alle Dinge geschaffen, und durch deinen Willen haben sie das Wesen und sind geschaffen." ("You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.")  (EL MARIACHI)
This might be crazy but I think it could be based on O Holy Night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyjm6VpNaNA

Barbarian-Lyrics are based on 1 Corinthians 15:55: Wo ist dein Sieg? Wo ist dein Stachel? Wo ist dein Sieg? Wo ist dein Sieg? Der Tod ist verschlungen in den Sieg. Tod, wo ist dein Stachel? Hölle, wo ist dein Sieg? Wo ist dein Sieg? Wo ist dein Stachel? Wo ist dein Sieg? Wo ist dein Sieg? Where is thy victory? Where is thy sting? Where is thy victory? Where is thy victory? Death is swallowed in victory. O death, where is thy sting? Hell, where is thy victory? Where is thy victory? Where is thy sting? Where is thy victory? Where is thy victory? (aazula and belgarathmth)
According to SunriseViewer Song is based on Brahms Requiem but I don’t know the song well enough to verify: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LEnLonY-zI

Knight-song is based on victory theme from base game

Warlock-lyrics are based on 1 Corinthians 15:52 The trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed" 1 Corinthians 15:52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed   (Matthew Mattchoo)

Heroes III

Main menu theme-based on Pop Goes the Weasel and you can’t tell me otherwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5En7VJhAMg

Good Theme-based on Pachelbel's Canon in D : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlprozGcs80

Necropolis-based on Dies Irae: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0

Stronghold- According to Romero 1st 7 notes inspired by Piano Practicing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHn2cYBsLXw and the climax is inspired by the Theme from the Valley of the Dolls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUO8UC1gSBg personally I don’t see it

Tower-based on Piano Concerto No.2 In B-flat major, Op.83 By Johannes Brahms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZUVRLHanwY go to 1:13 (Nicholas Tidemann)

Cove-no idea what it’s based on if anything, but I’ve always thought it sounds like Death Wheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBB28CXHLmA

Heroes IV

Dirt theme- Based on Fear a Bhàta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHe2H2WOQXs a large amount of games use the song including The Witcher 3; The Fields of Ard Skellig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NknjE2SBPxw
I’m not sure the song was intentionally based on Fear a Bhàta, for as I understand it there is a Celtic sampler which I have found before which contains the song. I believe the sampler was used for a lot of heroes 4’s music.

Castle (life)-singer is Dean Elzinga Lyrics are based on Carl Orff’s ‘In Trutina’ (Vik Rots) from the cantata Carmina Burana: Sed eligo...Quod video...Collum iugo...Transeo… Praebeo… Lascivus… Amor (Wayna Garcia) But I choose what I see, I yield my neck to the yoke, I submit to lascivious love (best I can figure based on the original poem because they don’t use it word for word)

Asylum (chaos)-Soloist is Karin Mushegain. Choir is Bulgarian women’s choir. (mariutunio)

Academy (order)-definitely a callback to heroes 2 sorceress theme

Preserve (Nature)- Dean Elzinga and Karin Mushegain sing this one. Bulgarian women’s choir is back too.
Lyrics are taken from the? Ancient Roman Catholic Requiem mass: Tuam caritas vindice omnias | Sum subita moria | | Suam subitas servitas veritas | -Nem vindice cantate subitas | | - Filia!, deus sumus omnia | -Caritas solos mora moria omnia | | -Tuam caritas vindice omnias | -Sum subita moria | | -Suam subitas servitas veritas | -Nem vindice cantate subitas | | -Sum meri subitas | -pro caritas omnia | | -Subita dies su das | - Mora deus mane (Unknown Music Notes)
Your love protects us; My sudden death; His unexpected servant of true; The end protector suddenly sings; Child!, we are all god; Love only delays our death; Your love protects us; My sudden death; His unexpected servant of true; The end protector suddenly sings; My sudden sunset; In return for your love; I give you my short time; Awaiting for god´s sunrise (While Unknown Music Notes’s translation is technically correct there is a few ways to interpret the words. For example unexpected servant of true would probably be better translated as his unexpected true servant or truest servant, And he has translated caritas ((Charity)) as ‘love’ but I think ‘grace’ might work better)

Heroes V

Main theme-based on Dies Irae: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0

Haven—Based on Totentanz(osteass): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nVmFlSV1ok which in turn is based on Dies Irae: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0
Sung by Karin Mushegain

Necropolis—Based on Totentanz(osteass): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nVmFlSV1ok which in turn is based on Dies Irae: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0
Kind of cool that it is a twisted version of Haven

Academy-possibly based on Dance of the Knights (Magda Spoustova): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBsKplb2E6Q

Heroes VI
Never touched the game.

Heroes VII
I’ve only played this game about 3 times.

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LordCameron
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posted May 09, 2021 08:25 PM

If I got the information from another person I tried to include their name in parentheses after the information.

Please feel free to fill in any gaps or correct mistakes.

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MarkMasters
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posted May 10, 2021 03:43 PM

Was hoping to find HoMM 3 roots as well , nevertheless fun to see that some of the themes had some roots before the game, thanks for sharing.

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LordCameron
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posted May 10, 2021 05:59 PM

Heroes of might and Magic 3 is in the list. Or do you mean you wish there was more of them? If so I agree part of the reason I made the list is because I'm hopeful some other people know.

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posted May 12, 2021 12:13 AM

Interesting that H2 lyrics alternate between based on new testamente and based on Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Like the composer wanted a balance between theism and antitheism in the compositions.
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LordCameron
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posted October 09, 2022 05:06 AM

Not sure where to send this, but can I get this turned into a project so I can update it?

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yogi
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posted October 09, 2022 09:55 PM

this deserves a qp imo!
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FdgK
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posted October 10, 2022 01:08 PM

I agree.

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lostn
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posted December 11, 2022 07:42 AM
Edited by lostn at 07:43, 11 Dec 2022.

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Preserve (Nature)- Dean Elzinga and Karin Mushegain sing this one. Bulgarian women’s choir is back too.


Apologies for this necro but are these two opera singers also featured in HOMM2 and POL? In HOMM2's OST, the Sorceress track is credited to Kareen Meshagan, is that her, using an alias? Is it the same singer in the POL version? Is Dean Elzinga also used in HOMM2?

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Heroes II Price of Loyalty

Sorceress-lyrics are based on Revelations 4:11:Herr, du bist würdig, zu nehmen Preis und Ehre und Kraft; denn du hast alle Dinge geschaffen, und durch deinen Willen haben sie das Wesen und sind geschaffen." ("You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.")  (EL MARIACHI)


Are you sure those are the lyrics in POL Sorceress? I don't hear those words at all.
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LordCameron
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posted December 12, 2022 07:27 PM

I think "Kareen Meshagan" might have been a spelling mistake on their part as her name does appear to be Karin Mushegain.

As far as I know it was only Grant Youngblood and Reid Bruton in Homm2, but my knowledge is fairly limited.

And definitely sure about the lyrics. Make sure you are listening to the right version as there is 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyN72cMVFoc

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posted December 17, 2022 02:43 AM
Edited by NimoStar at 02:44, 17 Dec 2022.

NimoStar said:
Interesting that H2 lyrics alternate between based on new testamente and based on Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Like the composer wanted a balance between theism and antitheism in the compositions.


Apparently, all three "evil" towns use Thus Spoke Zarathustra for the lyrics, while at least two of the "good" town use the Bible.
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