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JollyJoker
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posted October 03, 2021 10:53 PM |
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Titanfall2020 said:
Trump is an ass
Well, you are still regurgitating the fairy tales he conned himself to presidency with, ass or not. What does that make you? Desperate? Misguided?
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Titanfall2020
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posted October 03, 2021 11:24 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Titanfall2020 said:
Trump is an ass
Well, you are still regurgitating the fairy tales he conned himself to presidency with, ass or not. What does that make you? Desperate? Misguided?
He was voted in because he was anti-establishment, after decades of the oligarchs hand selected politicians running roughshod over the American people.
I talked about his express achievements during his presidency, which are indisputable.
You don't know anything about our politics. What you think you know, is just propaganda mainstreamed by the oligarchs.
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artu
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posted October 04, 2021 02:26 AM |
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I understand “anti-establishment” is a cool word these days but if your idea of what constitutes such a thing is Trump, you are not anti-establishment, you are just post-truth. (Cooler word, pseudo-uprise by that one.)
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JollyJoker
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posted October 04, 2021 08:31 AM |
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Trump PRESENTED himself as "anti-establishment", which he sold as "having no affiliations with the existing power elite".
Which was just the bullsh!t of the con man.
Let's get back to this "racial socialist" nonsense that Hitler supposedly was. What is that even supposed to mean?
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Titanfall2020
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posted October 06, 2021 10:39 PM |
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artu said:
I understand “anti-establishment” is a cool word these days but if your idea of what constitutes such a thing is Trump, you are not anti-establishment, you are just post-truth. (Cooler word, pseudo-uprise by that one.)
Now do Bernie.
Trump was the most anti-establishment candidate in either party in both 2016 and 2020. He still had too much faith in the institutions which are almost entirely corrupt and tyrannical.
I mean, since you likely get all your information from establishment approved media, you wouldn't have noticed how the entire establishment united to destroy Trump and the healthy populism of his voters. They did this by slandering us 24/7 for 5 years straight across every media platform, so much that the average person can't cobble an accurate sentence together of what their movement was all about.
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Titanfall2020
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posted October 06, 2021 11:08 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Trump PRESENTED himself as "anti-establishment", which he sold as "having no affiliations with the existing power elite".
Which was just the bullsh!t of the con man.
Let's get back to this "racial socialist" nonsense that Hitler supposedly was. What is that even supposed to mean?
Socialists are incapable of understanding that their movement is pure folly, not at all benevolent, and sits atop a pile of 110,000,000 corpses from the last century. It's a siren song, and it's proponents do little to no research on its failures.
Here is a lesson, for the would be socialists here about to cheer on the next genocide.
Karl Marx: The theory of communism can summed up in a single sentence. The abolition of private property.
Since the state stealing every single belonging of every citizen of its nation is very unpopular, it is impossible to achieve. Enter socialism, which is simply the means of "socializing" the citizens to accept a more totalitarian state. The orchestraters of socialism may have good intentions, but they also have extreme pride, ignorance, and hatred; believing a small group of "socially enlightened" individuals should have more and more control over the entire masses, what they own, where they work, how many children they have.
By force, terrorism, endless propaganda, famine, theft, dismantling of law and order (to give their loyalists immunity to commit crimes on behalf of their goals), they "socialize" their populations to confiscate more power from them, believing they would use it better. This is tyranny not liberty, and a few over educated morons will always fail in planning economies and culture compared to the free market. Turns out greed exists in them as well as the capitalists they think themselves so much better than.
Karl Marx was a class socialist, believing the workers would rise up against the rich. Mao was a class socialist. Mussolini was a class socialist, before embracing nationalism, but he was never a racist.
But Hitler hated both class socialists, and capitalists, his revolution was against both of these. He was a hardcore racist bigot and believed that Jews designed both communism and capitalism to enrich themselves, and therefore wanted to crush both ideologies.
His socialism was not based on a class revolution, but a racial revolution. But he was most certainly not a capitalist. He wanted the Nazi party to plan every single aspect of his citizens lives, he wanted only businesses, churches, and unions completely loyal to the Nazi ideology to be allowed to operate in Germany, and he used the same methods socialists worldwide use to achieve this. Hitler, the leader of the National Socialist German Worker's Party, bragged about his "new socialism" and raged against capitalists, and communists.
His policies and morality are basically the exact same as any socialist dictator, and the democrat party today. The only difference is in the group he chose to ostrascize, propagandize against, and then genocide.
Mao slaughtered the "far right extremists" who opposed his socialist revolution. The soviets slaughtered the rich. Hitler slaughtered the jews. And todays woke socialists will slaughter the unvaxxed and the traditionalists.
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JollyJoker
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posted October 06, 2021 11:16 PM |
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If what you drivel was true, you were dead.
As it is you are just trying to look like you had to say something important, but it's just a load of nonsense.
Get a job or something.
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Titanfall2020
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posted October 06, 2021 11:27 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
If what you drivel was true, you were dead.
As it is you are just trying to look like you had to say something important, but it's just a load of nonsense.
Get a job or something.
As expected, no engagement with the points made, just ad hominem attacks made in ignorance. I literally could have wrote your script.
Let me guess "you made no points, it is simply too stupid to argue with". Anything to keep the socialist bigot from considering anything that would threaten his cognitive dissonance
Edit: That first bit was just comedy. Did Hitler have death camps in 1934? Did Stalin intentionally starve the farmers to death while Lenin yet lived? And did Mao round up traditionalists, label them
"far right extremists" and genocide them before he won the civil war? Will the Build Back Better crowd genocide the "unvaccinated" before they confiscate our guns and there yet remain pockets of lawful judiciaries?
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JollyJoker
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posted October 07, 2021 08:39 AM |
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"Points made"? There are no points. Just untruths amd halftruths. Historially and current. And, no, there is no reasoning with people like you, who are enlightened by some powerful truth offside the mainstream who just KNOW the truth and invent their own bs vocabulary.
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NimoStar
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posted October 08, 2021 02:22 AM |
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Break into 50 states, then let them federate the way they want. Oh, and free Hawaii and Puerto Rico, they got annexed in ways totally unfair (not that most of the rest wasn't, but both of those still have the native population with their language and customs, and are islands apart from the continent).
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