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Grythandril
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posted May 13, 2002 11:12 PM |
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That all boils down to the artist. Different artist for Heroes IV as well as Heroes III and Heroes II etc.
Heroes V will probably have a diferent artist for that as well.
I wonder what they will look like.
They could be better than it predessor or maybe just bad.
But for now i am very happy with these graphics.
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Xenophanes
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posted May 14, 2002 01:26 AM |
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True, some artists go and leave, but April Lee was working at New World for Heroes III and IV. You're probably right about Heroes V, though--because of all the layoffs, there will probably be a lot of different artists, or old artists working almost solitarily. But...
JVC's gonna be the Lead Designer!!! 
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Dragonhunter
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Anybody got a Band-aid
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posted May 14, 2002 04:13 AM |
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I'm just playing M&M 6 and I was playing Final Fantasy on a ROM. I think graphics are really secondary to a good game. I bought Etherlords and took it back 'cos I didn't like the game even though the graphics were top notch!
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Grythandril
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posted May 14, 2002 09:11 PM |
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Yes I do agree with you on that point.
If the game has good graphics and is rotten to play then yes i would tack it back because it is not worth it.
However Heroes IV is a excellent game that used practically the same type of game play as did the predessors, only this time the graphics are much much better.
Good Gameplay with good graphics makes the game more enjoyable.
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DonGio
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posted May 14, 2002 09:45 PM |
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You just don't get it, do you?
I could care less how higly developed the graphics are, all I care about is do I like looking at the game. Do I think the graphics are good?
But as we (or most of us, anyway) know, this is a somewhat subjective matter, because personal taste and preferance will have a say, and then all the facts and stats in the world won't help. Some people just like ass-butt-sucky graphics! And there's nothing we can do about it!
And after waiting for years (months, at least) and paying like 55-60$ for a game, I think we're in title to complain if we feel that the graphics are butt-sucky, which in this case, they are.
So you tell me to shut up one more time, and I'll ram that little penguin head of yours down your throat and pull it out of your arse! 
BTW: Didn't I tell all of ya how ugly the graphics were gonna be when we saw screenshots earlier? And you all went "Oh, you can't measure by that, these are closeups, you'll never see that from a distance, these are just prototypes" (some even said "these look good!"! Can you believe that!)
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Grythandril
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posted May 14, 2002 11:37 PM |
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Well Don Gioi if the graphics are butt-sucky then what game like in the heroes type game has good graphics?
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Darion
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posted May 15, 2002 05:06 AM |
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could you please explain what is wrong with the graphics? i mean what does 'how nice it is to watch' mean? the game graphics is superb imo, because the animations are very good and the details of map structures etc are very highly developed and so are the other graphics...people who claim these graphics are bsnow and ugly...go play HoMMI and stop whining ok... ?
Hey now! To borrow the line from Lith... RTFM! Says there you're not supposed to insult people like that.
Second of all, the map looks to me like a fairy dragon had to poop all over the place if you wanna put it that way. Lots of pretty sparkling fairy junk that is scrapped up from assorted different artists and styles and plopped on a terrain.
Animations suck. Has been proved by the distaste of the majority of the people I have seen.
And I've already beat you to it. Homm2 is the only one that remains on my computer, with an ocassional play of Homm3.
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DonGio
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posted May 15, 2002 11:59 AM |
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Well Don Gioi if the graphics are butt-sucky then what game like in the heroes type game has good graphics?
HOMMII and III were games that pleased my aesthetic sense. Not because of resolution or pixels or animation frames or whatever, but because the artwork was of high quality, and the graphic had a personal/human touch. I like the HOMMII graphics better than III's, but watching HOMMIV, I see that they too are splendid.
I also enjoy the AoW graphics. Nothing fancy, but it's consistent, quality artwork and again, a personal/human touch. Maybe I'm a romantic nostalgic (that sounded crappy enough ), but that's what I like.
Maybe we just have different criteria for what makes graphics good. But I guess the 3DO people (the few left) feels good that someone at least likes the way the game looks.
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Grythandril
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posted May 15, 2002 10:58 PM |
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I suppose i will never understand the appeal of Heroes III graphics over Heroes IV.
It all just boils down to personal artistic taste.
But this might sound harsh and no offence to be taken, but Heroes IV is here along with the graphics.
So to the people who do not like the graphics.
You are stuck with them until Heroes V is finished.
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campfreddie
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posted May 17, 2002 01:29 PM |
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If it hasn't already been mentioned....
Why do so many creatures (esp. Squires and Barbarian women) walk like they've shat themselves / been kicked in the bollocks?
Realistic animation would be nice.
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Gerdash
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from the Animated Peace
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posted May 17, 2002 09:55 PM |
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yeah (i don't exactly remember whom i was replying to), maybe we could put it that way: much of the artwork of heroes is above the level of being acceptable imho, but it just seems that the artists didn't work together well enough. i mean, there's lack of unity in graphics that disturbs the roleplay aspect of homm imho. for some ppl (like me) this is extremely important.
(also, i agree that sprites aren't bad, but i guess they were just given as an example that enabled some comparison to be made. btw, wasn't the homm3 sprite also a 3d model?)
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Dispyre
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posted May 17, 2002 09:56 PM |
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You are stuck with them until Heroes V is finished.
That's not true, you could always try one of the other popular turn-based games like Disciples or Age of Wonders 2.
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Grythandril
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posted May 17, 2002 10:47 PM |
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I meant in the updated of the heroes genre.
All of us who have heroes IV as this is the latest.
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DonGio
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posted May 18, 2002 12:53 PM |
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What wrong with you people?
be happy that they build the game!
man if i was someone from 3do and saw al this ungrateful crap i'd say my ass with heroes and they just sort it out for themselves!
So you want us to pretend to be happy with the graphics to please the developers? Great idea...
And I should be thankful that they made the game? Yeah, I'm sure they did it to be nice to us...
This is a capitalistic world, and they made the game to make money, and that's okay if it's a good product. But now it feels like they're milking the cow for all that it's worth. So when the product I've spent my hard-earned money on doesn't meet my expectations, I'm entitled to be unhappy and tell people about it.
After all, I (and others complaining) are not some critic paid to review the game and list it's pros and cons. If that was the case, then I could see a point in not bashing/flaming the developers too bad.
But as it is, I think they have given us a product that doesn't measure up, and I have the right to be pissed about it.
Be well
DonGio
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arachnid
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posted May 18, 2002 02:27 PM |
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ack to h3 after h4 it looks very blocky and even worst graphics than whats in 4. However ive never seen a 3do/new world computing game with good graphics, so i really dont know why anyone is supprised it does not look that good.
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Grythandril
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posted May 18, 2002 04:05 PM |
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Surely there must be one redeeming factor of the graphics that eveyone must like?
You cant just loath it completely?
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Xenophanes
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posted May 18, 2002 04:23 PM |
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Oooh, ooh, new idea: The new "3d pre-rendering" or whatever Jeff Blattner and Trip Hawkings kept on going on about--New World has never really done this kind before, at least in the Heroes setting. They decided to try something new, and see how it turned out--for better or for worse. While that last line depends on how much you value graphics vs. gameplay, and indeed, what you define as good graphics, the fact is that the designers just tried something new. Perhaps they didn't have as strong as a team this time--again, JVC was not lead designer--and there were some flaws along the way that may or may not have been fixed by this.
Again, though, this new team decided to try a different way. Did it work? It depends. But, this had to come sooner or later, and I personally think that it opens up a new gateway for future installments to delve into, and use it to create the detail, flavor, and aesthetic appeal that everyone's looking for.
In short, these people made a mistake. Need I even bother to quote that famous quote right now? As I see it, having made a mistake, New World will learn from it, and then use this new found knowledge to give future installments the charm and aesthetic appeal that we have come to expect from any Heroes game.
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Grythandril
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posted May 20, 2002 11:32 AM |
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Providing they dont make a mistake and it turns out to be worst than what people have being critising about these graphics.
We will have to wait and see.
And with the expansions and other patches that are coming out, it will be a very long time indeed.
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Kwon
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posted April 06, 2007 11:54 PM |
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Yes, the graphics is great.
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