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fred79
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posted January 14, 2022 10:43 PM

a unified world? question: how, and who, are going to accomplish that? what evidence have you seen, that that's something the ultra rich and everything they control are working towards? is that just a dream you have, or do you think that's actually realistic?

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Galaad
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posted January 14, 2022 11:02 PM

I don't understand the OP. Care to develop (and maybe save your thread from being moved to the VW in the meantime)?

Because right now it's just your usual statements.
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posted January 14, 2022 11:22 PM

fred79 said:
a unified world? question: how, and who, are going to accomplish that? what evidence have you seen, that that's something the ultra rich and everything they control are working towards? is that just a dream you have, or do you think that's actually realistic?
There are SOME who'd want that. Individuals who have earned enough money. But corporations profit from the world divided - different tax rates, different wage levels, different worker protection laws, different currencies, tax evasion paradises, the lot.
A divided world is good for business - and that's before you include all those weapon sales.

In a unified world this would be more difficult - like in the US. United States of the World, USW.

Will happen only, if and when the life of everyone depends on it. Until that every tribe will fight tooth and nail for their "independence". And even if and when the life of everyone depends on it, there will still be those claiming that this is all some sham to get total control.

I suppose we'll have to suffer a massive desaster with a sizable percentage of peope dying before they will be open for this - but, hey, so many have died for so much crap, looking down history, so... well.

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posted January 14, 2022 11:38 PM

fred79 said:
Kipshasz said:
This thread is peak comedy.


what do you find funny about it?



Everything.
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posted January 15, 2022 01:08 AM

Galaad said:
I don't understand the OP. Care to develop (and maybe save your thread from being moved to the VW in the meantime)?

Because right now it's just your usual statements.


so you're threatening to move this thread to the vw because "you don't understand"?

explain to me, what's "confusing" about what i said. then explain to me, how you think moving a thread covering a tyrannical THREAT to the american populace to the vw, of all places, is justified, warranted, and not in the slightest possible way, an attack on my benevolence, because it doesn't fall in line with your beliefs, mr. moderator.

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posted January 15, 2022 01:15 AM

JollyJoker said:
fred79 said:
a unified world? question: how, and who, are going to accomplish that? what evidence have you seen, that that's something the ultra rich and everything they control are working towards? is that just a dream you have, or do you think that's actually realistic?
There are SOME who'd want that. Individuals who have earned enough money. But corporations profit from the world divided - different tax rates, different wage levels, different worker protection laws, different currencies, tax evasion paradises, the lot.
A divided world is good for business - and that's before you include all those weapon sales.

In a unified world this would be more difficult - like in the US. United States of the World, USW.

Will happen only, if and when the life of everyone depends on it. Until that every tribe will fight tooth and nail for their "independence". And even if and when the life of everyone depends on it, there will still be those claiming that this is all some sham to get total control.

I suppose we'll have to suffer a massive desaster with a sizable percentage of peope dying before they will be open for this - but, hey, so many have died for so much crap, looking down history, so... well.


you answered only the last question.

so instead, just answer this one: what EVIDENCE have you seen, that anything like your utopian world, is being actively strived for, by those in power?

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Galaad
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posted January 15, 2022 02:22 AM

No, simply because insofar the content of the thread is more akin to VW material. I'm not moving the thread anywhere, that's up to Cor.

You want to bring serious subject, take more than two liners and develop your thoughts in a somehow rational way, if you can.
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posted January 15, 2022 02:44 AM

nice insult to follow your threat, mr. moderator. the op, and everything needed to understand my point, comes with rationally observing the world, gaining understanding of the obvious nature of those who have been primarily in power(which can literally be observed by the moderators here at hc, if anyone's paying attention), and the changes made in civilized society by the influence of these rulers. their behavior can be observed at literally every level of authority across every aspect of society.

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posted January 15, 2022 10:23 AM

fred79 said:


you answered only the last question.

so instead, just answer this one: what EVIDENCE have you seen, that anything like your utopian world, is being actively strived for, by those in power?
I think, I answered everything. It will happen only, if everyone's life depends on it in an obvious and direct way. Other than that everyone with a shred of regional power is way to obsessed with keeping to it and possibly increasing it.

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posted January 15, 2022 12:34 PM

so if you see no evidence anyone is striving for your utopian world, what practical and logical applications do your views have on reality, then?

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Galaad
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posted January 15, 2022 12:36 PM

Yeah, just as I thought.
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posted January 15, 2022 01:34 PM

Galaad said:
Yeah, just as I thought.


so out of every responder in this thread, not one person has engaged in practical and logical discussion on a very serious topic. got it. you, jj, and kip, have contributed literally nothing to this thread. two of you just attacked the thread and myself (including you, wholesome moderator), and all three ridiculed it. if you want anything transferred to hc's trash receptacle subforum, try transferring yourselves there. or, you could act like decent people and contribute literally ANYTHING to the thread.

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posted January 15, 2022 02:35 PM
Edited by Galaad at 14:37, 15 Jan 2022.

That's because we cannot make anything out from the OP. It's statements without any substance. You need to explain the whys and the hows, bring out examples, construct your reasoning, to give us something to work with. I'm not threatening or insulting you fred (sorry if you feel that way), I'm trying to help.
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posted January 15, 2022 03:01 PM
Edited by fred79 at 15:05, 15 Jan 2022.

you're transparent. compare this thread, to this one. that is only the most immediate instance i found, on the first page. there are literally hundreds more. but you chose this one, to make your threats against me, and ridicule me. so what's different? one word: me. or more accurately, my viewpoints, and how you stand against me.

more than that, you are derailing my thread, not addressing the topic, and in the osm. stop sabotaging and attempting to control important content just because you disagree.

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posted January 15, 2022 03:14 PM
Edited by Galaad at 15:19, 15 Jan 2022.

The immediate difference is one of the threads is stating a verifiable fact.

Whatever fred I'm out, good luck with your thread.

If an actual discussion actually starts, I'll ask Corribus to clean the mess.
Edit Ah, and I don't "stand against you", I simply disagree. I have nothing against you or your viewpoints. Try to not take everything personally.
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posted January 15, 2022 03:20 PM

Galaad said:
The immediate difference is one of the threads is stating a verifiable fact.


this is a verifiable fact, and you know it:

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the "dept. of justice" is forming a "domestic terrorism" unit


the rest is also a verifiable fact, but not something you, or anyone in your camp, are willing to accept. you are not WILLING to accept simple facts, because they don't fall in line with your misguided and uninformed beliefs.

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posted January 15, 2022 03:22 PM

JollyJoker said:
The title is fine.

Your "coment" is the problem.

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posted January 15, 2022 04:11 PM

fred79 said:

the rest is also a verifiable fact, but not something you, or anyone in your camp, are willing to accept. you are not WILLING to accept simple facts, because they don't fall in line with your misguided and uninformed beliefs.
I'm starting to think you have no clue what "verifiable" means.

fred79 said:
so if you see no evidence anyone is striving for your utopian world, what practical and logical applications do your views have on reality, then?
Well, there ARE people striving - but that's somewhat beside the point. Just because something doesn't seem to be obtainable or reachable AT THIS TIME doesn't mean you shouldn't strive for it, does it? Having ideals, it's called, and it's a matter of taking small steps, mostly. Without that there wouldn't be progress.

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posted January 15, 2022 08:41 PM

galaad, everything i point out is based on information that anyone can glean from history and the present world around them. and again, you're not part of the conversation, so why are you in this thread? it's osm material, it isn't a meme, and you are simply derailing the thread.

jj, i asked what EVIDENCE you saw to support your view. i have all the evidence in the world, to support mine. so where's YOURS? you show me just WHERE your benevolent globalists are STRIVING to make the world a better place. until you can put your evidence for your viewpoint up against mine so we can make a legit comparison and discuss practical and logical points like informed adults, you don't have a leg to stand on, here. for instance, you can't just say you believe in unicorns, and not show me WHY you think so. you HAVE to have something grounded in reality, to back it up.

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posted January 15, 2022 09:11 PM

No idea what you are talking about.

Why would I need evidence that others are working for something I believe is a necessity to survive in the long run and a matter of course, ethically, to justify what I BELIEVE?

That is a completely different point from yours. YOU claim that people ARE working for something that I would like, but with an evil intentition (but that's not the reason why you are against it, you are against it because it would be kind of a "loss" for the USA), and you claim it IS so (not that you BELIEVE it is so).

Mind you, you have NO evidence whatever for what you believe - at least evidence in the sense that everyone except you understands the word. See

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everything i point out is based on information that anyone can glean from history and the present world around them


is nonsense. Everyone can say that about anything. It's like - hey, you don*t believe in God? LOOK AROUND! He's practically all around you and everyone with two eyes can see Him!


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