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Thread: Unique Campaign Heroes mod
Unknown_dark_g
Unknown_dark_g


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posted July 25, 2022 02:43 PM

Unique Campaign Heroes mod

It always bothered me and surely many others aswell that the campaign heroes of the original homm 4 campaigns dont look like they are supposed to look.
Gauldoth is not half-dead, Emilia appears as an annoying blond mage, all of the pirates arent pirates, Kalibarr is not decayed enough, Cyra is not even a medusa and Tharj's species got wrong aswell.
So since nobody ever did a mod yet, to change their actors, I decided to work on it myself.
The first version will have Emilia and Gauldoth Halfdead as heroes:

https://imgur.com/gallery/rgn9f4l

As you see I did a lot of changes to them: Emilia no longer uses a Staff but a sword. It is meant to show that she is not an experienced mage like Magnus. This is further emphasized by her Spellanimation being rather cloudy instead of being clear and bright.
Emilia is almost finished.
Gauldoth needs a lot more work right now, but now he will be actually half dead and not ... dead.
While he wears the general outfit of a necromancer, his Robe is less black and more grey. This is meant to not only show that Gauldoth has been in the wild and appears more dusty but also it symbolizes his alignment that is not death or destruction in its purest form.
He also wears a hood to hide his visage though sometimes a read light still shines through.
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baronus
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posted July 29, 2022 11:21 AM
Edited by baronus at 11:21, 29 Jul 2022.

Great! You are reading my mind! And I was just thinking to make a second alternative set of heroes! If you make your own, we will be able to use the H4Zero method and maybe for heroes and you don't have to! They look great! I'm delighted! If you like that I can only say.
We need more of this!

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NimoStar
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posted July 29, 2022 12:48 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 12:50, 29 Jul 2022.

Quote:
Gauldoth is not half-dead, Emilia appears as an annoying blond mage, all of the pirates arent pirates, Kalibarr is not decayed enough, Cyra is not even a medusa and Tharj's species got wrong aswell.
So since nobody ever did a mod yet, to change their actors, I decided to work on it myself.


Hey. I did change Cyra actors, made some pirates be pirates and so forth! And I made Emilia dress blue. Give me credit where it's due ; )

The idea of unique campaign heroes wasn't implemented in original H4, we could see that they had actually a emilia 3D model (you can see it in cinematic) but it wasn't rendered as hero.

I like your necromancer Gauldoth and think he could be a unit, your Emilia is a good effort but I don't like that she looks rather old she was suppossed to be basically a teen

But any new actors are welcome.
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Unknown_dark_g
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posted July 31, 2022 12:13 AM

NimoStar said:
Quote:
Gauldoth is not half-dead, Emilia appears as an annoying blond mage, all of the pirates arent pirates, Kalibarr is not decayed enough, Cyra is not even a medusa and Tharj's species got wrong aswell.
So since nobody ever did a mod yet, to change their actors, I decided to work on it myself.


Hey. I did change Cyra actors, made some pirates be pirates and so forth! And I made Emilia dress blue. Give me credit where it's due ; )

The idea of unique campaign heroes wasn't implemented in original H4, we could see that they had actually a emilia 3D model (you can see it in cinematic) but it wasn't rendered as hero.


I like your necromancer Gauldoth and think he could be a unit, your Emilia is a good effort but I don't like that she looks rather old she was suppossed to be basically a teen

But any new actors are welcome.


Oh yes, that is true, the greatest mod and the ultimate mod had an implementation of species. Actually the way I am doing those new actors is not based on ultimate or greatest but it is actually based on another mod of yours: The creature heroes mod
My mod basicly uses creature heroes but without the creatures.

As for emilia, I am surprised she looks old to you. Now, I think it can not be seen in my screenshots but emilia is actually smaller in height than most heroes. However she still is towering over halflings and dwarves.
I would like to know what is the aesthetic element of her that evokes this effect of age.

I also have another showcase of the texturepack:

https://imgur.com/gallery/hFPrrfc

As you can see emilia now has deathanims and for Gauldoth ... well his meleeanim was a challenge to make.
You see, Gauldoth often had scenes where he uses brute physical force to overpower others in melee, yet he is also a magician. Long have I thought about how to combine that into an animation. And I kinda came up with an animation similar to the hand of death spell, where both the undead half of Gauldoth's body and his knowledge of the arcane is combined within a deadly burst.
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NimoStar
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posted July 31, 2022 08:52 PM

To me, the effect of Emilia looking "old" is probably due to her white parts of clothing being similar and in the place of her hair, making it look like she has silver hair.



The one laying down is the most obvious
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dD_ShockTroop
dD_ShockTroop


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posted August 01, 2022 02:13 PM

Loving the work so far! These two look amazing. Seems like whatever you cook up here is going to be an auto-include at the end of whatever stack of mods I'm running on HoMM4.

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Unknown_dark_g
Unknown_dark_g


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posted August 06, 2022 12:53 AM

NimoStar said:
To me, the effect of Emilia looking "old" is probably due to her white parts of clothing being similar and in the place of her hair, making it look like she has silver hair.



The one laying down is the most obvious


Oh, never thought of that. Yeah maybe the veils are covering too much of her dark-brown hair, kinda making it feel more grey. That effect is especially true for the situations, in which we see her from behind since there little of her hair is revealed.



dD_ShockTroop said:
Loving the work so far! These two look amazing. Seems like whatever you cook up here is going to be an auto-include at the end of whatever stack of mods I'm running on HoMM4.


Thx! Glad you enjoy those hero-animations.  Interesting, you run a stack of mods? If you want stack mods, and you want to keep this mod within multiple mods there might be some renaming required though.
If you want to know, how to combine this kind of mod with other mods, I can tell you a little bit about how it would work, since that information will not be included in the Readme.
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posted August 06, 2022 08:29 PM
Edited by Unknown_dark_g at 15:50, 08 Aug 2022.

Ok guys I have quite a nice showcse of animations:

https://imgur.com/gallery/7CqcdJB

This time we see more Gauldoth Hand-of-deathing but I also made a new castanimation. This same Animation will be used for Kallibarr aswell to symbolize that Gauldoth is his student.
The anim is basicly made of 3 meteorites in a circle, the circle represents eternity. When the meteors rotate, cosmic dust emmits into the middle and out of that dust a universe appears, before the animation ends.
I believe that this animation allows two main interpretations: The Kallibarristic one and the Gauldothian interpretation.
Where Gauldoth sees the cycle break, thus eternity break and a universe appear, it is a recognition of the universe's will that he, the most unlikely of us all, broke the cycle of eternity and is now a plaything of destiny. The universe that appears is therefore like a "master."

For Kalibarr the cycle is the cycle of death, which is eternal. When the meteors fall apart, the nihilistic Kalibarr sees it as a symbol of meaninglessness. Everything will eventually end in dust. Therefore the universe that appears out of that dust, is not a master like Gauldoth would see it but a mere posession. Not his posession, but death's posession.

Edit: Today the first version is released! It now only has Gauldoth and Emilia but more hero actors will come in soon. It is available for download here:

https://www.moddb.com/mods/unique-campaign-heroes
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NimoStar
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posted August 08, 2022 11:56 PM

Pretty cool. However, one thing is seeing a preview and another seeing it in action, so I will withhold final judgement until we have a release
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Unknown_dark_g
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posted August 09, 2022 11:44 PM

NimoStar said:
Pretty cool. However, one thing is seeing a preview and another seeing it in action, so I will withhold final judgement until we have a release


Kalibarr is not yet released but Emilia and Gauldoth are released.
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