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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: Do you like creature banks? (Angels, Wyverns etc.)
Thread: Do you like creature banks? (Angels, Wyverns etc.)
Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


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posted November 24, 2023 07:55 AM

Poll Question:
Do you like creature banks? (Angels, Wyverns etc.)

How do you feel about creature banks?

Responses:
Yes
No
Indifferent
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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posted November 24, 2023 08:28 AM

I sure do. The game would not be as fun without 'em.
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FfuzzyLogik
FfuzzyLogik


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posted November 24, 2023 09:39 AM

If you mean banks who gives creatures (and not the "treasures"), I'm "so so".
The problem is how fair tyey are. If you get the faction of that creature bank, it can quickly be gamebreaker... You can get very fast wyvern nest and get "more of them" with "dragonfly hives" can lead to a huge "pilestack" of wyvern or wyvern monarchs...
Worst being "griffin conservatory" who gives you one of the best creature of the game... And having just "few" archangels gives you ability to go for utopias with ease and without loss (because of resurrection).
I'd prefer "creature banks" who gives less powerful creatures and one per faction for more "fairness".

For other creature banks, out of imp cache (who's good for undead to get skeletons but not great reward), I find the way to find treasure fine cool thing in game (even if some of them looks maybe more challenging for the reward).
The dwarven treasury for example, if you're not on grass, is frequently easy and very rewarding including a gift of many experience (I dislike life points to be the value used for experence - snow slow bag of HP units give tons of XP and good low HP units give less : sharpshooter or walking deads ? Same HP...).
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baronus
baronus


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posted November 24, 2023 12:36 PM

You must give us description what you mean?

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted November 24, 2023 01:02 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 13:03, 24 Nov 2023.

I mostly meant Griffin Conservatory and Dragon Fly Hive. (+ the creature banks in HotA, that gives town creatures.)

@FfuzzyLogik I agree that XP determined by HP is weird, Sharpshooters are MUCH better than Walking Dead for example.

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Star_mage
Star_mage


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posted November 24, 2023 01:51 PM

baronus said:
You must give us description what you mean?


I agree with the above. It s a very vague question, so since it s a vague question, im going to project my feelings towards this matter.


What I feel about creature banks in general?
They re a good feature that gives complexity to the gameplay.

What i feel about the current state of the creature banks?
I feel like they re an underused feature.
I feel like the creature banks is the closest we can get to a PvE gameplay within a map (besides single scenarios VS AI).
I feel like the creature banks could serve as the Dungeons or Raids in modern/current games.
I feel like they could have more layers of creatures, from less powerful creatures to more powerful creatures, ultimately leading to the BOSS creature. Whenever you lose with your hero, you could retreat and the progress would be saved for you to return when you gather anothe army.

And to make things interesting, the progress would be saved globally, so an enemy could snatch the prize by continuing your progress.

Kind of like a Zakar in Dota.

The Raids and Dungeons could serve to the story/lore as well. For example, Raiding the Elementals Planes where Elementals opened a portal to our world and seek to conquer our world. A creature bank for each Elemental Plane, where you fight lesser Elementals, then the upgrades and ultimately, you fight the current Elemental Lord as a boss. Killing him drops his legendary artifact.




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baronus
baronus


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posted November 24, 2023 06:29 PM

Aaa. Ofcourse Angels are OP. It sholud be simply griffins. I think that it can be simply modded now.
Wyverns are ok! This unit is weak. Additional boost gives ballance .
But in RMG maps is to much of it and angels too...

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