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thecastrated
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posted December 13, 2023 04:49 AM |
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Confusing article on aging in ghost dragons
In the article it states Aging occurs after the damage occurs, meaning the attack does whatever damage then the health of whole stack is halves
D.
However in the calculations it seems the damage calculation is done after the aging is done.
Also what if the damage kills the angels(S) outright?
Link
https://heroes.thelazy.net/index.php/Bone_Dragon_and_Ghost_Dragon
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted December 13, 2023 02:20 PM |
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Slightly combing the mighty FizMiG Google translation -
Age (20%)
Ghost Dragons have a 20% chance of aging the target. The effect has no analogue among spells and it's a magical effect of level 5, lasts 3 rounds. The maximum and current health of the target is reduced by 50%. If the top creature in the target unit has incomplete health, but more than half, then the damage received previously will be subtracted from the health reduced by Age; if half or less health – the current health will be reduced to 1. Age affects the living beings only.
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Thecastrated
Famous Hero
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posted December 13, 2023 02:46 PM |
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Okay one by one when a creature is attacked and there is Aging is the damage done before or after Aging ?
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AlexSpl
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Supreme Hero
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posted December 13, 2023 02:49 PM |
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thecastrated
Famous Hero
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posted December 13, 2023 03:20 PM |
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If the damage is before why does it say” when the ghost does 60 damage to an angel the calculation is 2002 -60=40
Obviously the /2 takes precedence
https://heroes.thelazy.net/index.php/Bone_Dragon_and_Ghost_Dragon
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AlexSpl
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Supreme Hero
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posted December 13, 2023 04:29 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 16:31, 13 Dec 2023.
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Because you have to not only calculate health of aged creatures, but also residual damage to the upper creature in a stack, which cannot be more than creature's new health obviously.
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thecastrated
Famous Hero
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posted December 13, 2023 04:49 PM |
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which means it ages first then damage? obviously it says 200/2 which means originally the angel was in full health
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AlexSpl
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Supreme Hero
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posted December 13, 2023 04:58 PM |
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1. Apply normal damage done by Ghost Dragons to a stack of creatures. The upper creature damaged by them will have residual damage (health - health_left).
2. This residual damage cannot be more than new health of a stack. Note that residual damage stays the same after aging, while health_left cannot stay the same, because full health of a creature in the stack was divided by two.
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted December 13, 2023 05:16 PM |
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Btw, it was done to prevent stacks from dying from Age effect only. But it would be fun if residual damage was applied as you expect it to, resulting in the mentioned above situation (which cannot occur in the game due to those hybrid calculations).
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thecastrated
Famous Hero
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posted December 13, 2023 05:49 PM |
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Then this means technically the ghost can attack, age a gold dragon then get killed by the retaliation while the gold dragon remains aged?
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AlexSpl
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Supreme Hero
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posted December 13, 2023 05:53 PM |
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Ghost Dragons don't support their Age effect. Like many other effects in the game that stay active even after creatures die.
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thecastrated
Famous Hero
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posted December 22, 2023 10:09 AM |
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If there's orb of vulnerability will black dragon be vulnerable to aging and death stare?
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Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted December 22, 2023 01:28 PM |
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Of course not, because Death Stare or Aging are not spells. so Orb has nothing to do with it.
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thecastrated
Famous Hero
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posted December 22, 2023 01:36 PM |
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According to https://heroes.thelazy.net/index.php/Gorgon_and_Mighty_Gorgon#Special_Ability:_Death_Stare death stare is an ability not magic. It works on black dragon without orb too.
However whether Aging works when orb is present I still don’t know though I think it does because green dragons can get it
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NimoStar
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Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted December 22, 2023 10:35 PM |
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Should be easy to test with 7 stacks of 1 ghost dragon and 7 stacks of 1 black dragon
BTW gold dragon was fricked again, not only vulnerable to implosion but to aging as well- while it can't be revived by sacrifice and magic mirror is nearly useless.
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Never changing = never improving
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thecastrated
Famous Hero
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posted December 23, 2023 05:00 PM |
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I wish I have my comp to test it.
For Poison according to wiki after three rounds no longer poisoned but is the full stack every creature in it health reduced thirty percent or only the top one https://heroes.thelazy.net/index.php/Poisonous
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