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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Are there any price of loyalty fan maps?
Thread: Are there any price of loyalty fan maps?
AirikrStrife
AirikrStrife


Hired Hero
posted February 27, 2024 02:26 PM

Are there any price of loyalty fan maps?

I recently played PoL for the first time (primarily a H3 player) and did enjoy the expansion pack. There is some disagreement whether it's canon or not, with a perspective being, sure it's somewhere on the enroth planet. So I was thinking if anyyone tried to make a map based on the PoL world, seeing how many good maps there are of antagarich and enroth. I saw a mention about it maybe existing on a russian forum, so I thought to ask.

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baronus
baronus


Legendary Hero
posted February 27, 2024 04:09 PM

Try second addon...

Once you're bored of the dozens of scenarios supplied within the game and you've completed the conquest, there's a whole CD of add-on maps to play with. Desecrated Lands

https://www.acornarcade.com/articles/Review_-_Heros_of_Might_and_Magic_II/index1053.html

Mega link:
https://mega.nz/#!blB01YBA!Lv5Vm3cX93tiqbE_YQZQ9j9FvmkfXTczAGfzATS7WTU

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Bytebandit
Bytebandit


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Soul Merchant
posted February 27, 2024 06:51 PM


....And, there's these selections for both Succession Wars and Price of Loyalty maps to play. Seems like decades since I created this. Also shows pictures of the maps too.

https://www.celestialheavens.com/737
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AirikrStrife
AirikrStrife


Hired Hero
posted February 27, 2024 07:13 PM

sorry I should have been clearer, I'm particularly looking for designed world maps, Like: https://heroes3wog.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/antagarich.jpg

not playable maps, bit difficult with nomenclature in a map based game

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baronus
baronus


Legendary Hero
posted February 27, 2024 11:25 PM

Ok. New Sorpigal H3 map.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/mm6-campaign
Still dont now you like H2 or H3 map?

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orzie
orzie


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Supreme Hero
posted February 28, 2024 11:10 AM

AirikrStrife said:
I recently played PoL for the first time (primarily a H3 player) and did enjoy the expansion pack. There is some disagreement whether it's canon or not, with a perspective being, sure it's somewhere on the enroth planet. So I was thinking if anyyone tried to make a map based on the PoL world, seeing how many good maps there are of antagarich and enroth. I saw a mention about it maybe existing on a russian forum, so I thought to ask.

While there were some attempts to "fit" PoL campaigns in the official M&M timeline, the events happening in the add-on are non-canon, and for a good reason: Cyberlore did not want to mess with the NWC's plans. This was a common practice for out-sourced expansion packs at the time. For some people, it is a head-canon that the Price of Loyalty happens on another planet, similar how Enroth and Axeoth are different planets.

So, while Cyberlore added some really cool ideas which became the foundation of the then-new Heroes 3 game, like Arena, Elemental dwellings, Stables, colored Barriers, Necromancy Amplifier and many, many others, there are no official maps of the Price of Loyalty gaming world.

The only thing you can do is to compile the in-game maps and try to create something yourself with them. As far as I am concerned, there were no fan attempts to do this, contrary to the original Heroes 2 game.
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AirikrStrife
AirikrStrife


Hired Hero
posted February 28, 2024 05:05 PM

orzie said:

The only thing you can do is to compile the in-game maps and try to create something yourself with them. As far as I am concerned, there were no fan attempts to do this, contrary to the original Heroes 2 game.


Yeah that's what I was wondering if someone had tried.

About PoL being canon or not, is treated with a sort of shrug, this is what gregory fulton said about it in an interview
XEL: Did you consider the Price of Loyalty expansion for HoMM2 canon?

GF: Price of Loyalty was not developed in house at New World Computing, but contracted out to Cyberlore Studios.  It was on the shelves before I ever joined NWC, and I do not recall ever having any lore discussions regarding the expansion.

With this in mind, I cannot give an authoritative answer to this question… I can only give you my personal opinion.  Yes, I consider it canon.



XEL: Does Price of Loyalty take place on planet Enroth or just some random world (like HoMM 1-4 scenarios do)?

GF: Succession Wars, Restoration of Erathia, and Armageddon’s Blade all took place on the same planet, but in different locales.  For Price of Loyalty, I had no reason to believe it was not on the same planet, but tucked away in a different region so it would not interfere with NWC’s ongoing work.

Keep in mind, if in some way it did present a ‘creative or continuity issue’, I could easily imagine a quick conversation among the design leads to retcon it to another world.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=41078&PID=1466803#focus

To me personally there's nothing that says it couldn't fit into enroth, it's not like the planet is overcrowded or anything and it would make more sense to me to try and fit PoL in than making up new landmasses that some fans and creators have done.

Anyway, if it doesn't exist it doesnt exist, I tried googling it, but only hearing that maybe somethign exists on russian forum put out a post in case someone has seen something

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