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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted March 22, 2024 09:02 PM |
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Just a simple example. A map has water but no Ships/Shipyards. Navigation will have its value, while it should not. The game estimates are quite simple, probably we would loose every game if Heroes AI was like his chess collegue. We want to be winners. Nobody wants to play a game he cannot beat, nobody wants to be outsmarted by AI, still we want a challenge  See how only few people share their experience with Factory campaign. Because it's really hard. It requires knowledge of every aspect of the game. A dream? No, people want to be winners as always and tend to overestimate their skills
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted March 22, 2024 09:06 PM |
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Yeah I know it's pretty complicated.
I would'nt use scripts, I would just go to map editor, open my map and give might heroes and Necromancers the additional Wisdom skill.
But giving might heroes Wisdom and magic heroes something else, is probably not very balanced, so your idea with improving the chance of AI picking Wisdom is probably better.
The perfect AI should prioritize Wisdom, Earth Magic, Logistics, Offense and Armorer and possibly Air Magic, but if all AI heroes were to get that, it would probably be a very different and very difficult game...
Yeah in my island map AI seems to pick Navigation pretty often, it's okay for early game, but when you have Fly, DD and WW you don't really need it and TP does'nt work on water either.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted March 22, 2024 09:12 PM |
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No.. I gave to Andra AI.. A ill-looking, but AIs beat the Andra AI.. Lesser primary skills and troops enough.. A map was RoE..
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted March 22, 2024 09:14 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 21:17, 22 Mar 2024.
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Now priorities are dynamic. But we - humans - know which skills are best for AI from our experience. I think, such values as 1, 2, 3, and so on for skills would be better alternative to the system we have right now. If you re-read my post about secondary skills estimates, you will see, that partly that's already provided. I would just stick with top skills from our (humans) perspective for AI. There are many threads about which skills are better. Ideally, we should teach AI to pick top-6 skills we pick every game, if possible. That will be better than what we have now.
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted March 22, 2024 09:19 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
Ideally, we should teach AI to pick top-6 skills we pick every game, if possible. That will be better than what it is now.
Yes, the question is if that would turn the game into "Dark Souls of Might and Magic".
Maybe we will all start playing on the lowest difficulty then. 
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted March 22, 2024 09:41 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
Ideally, we should teach AI to pick top-6 skills we pick every game, if possible. That will be better than what we have now.
From what I've experienced, AI prioritizes movement well enough even if may fall into traps like the one you mention, so the solution could be just give Earth and Wisdom the two top priorities.
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Barbuta
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 25, 2024 02:11 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
Ideally, we should teach AI to pick top-6 skills we pick every game, if possible. That will be better than what we have now.
My two cents - That would make every game similar to each other and having it like it is now brings variety to the game. Instead of forcing the AI to pick the skill we deem the best as players, a better approach to a stronger AI would be an unfair boost of resources/armies that the AI gets when playing on the 2 hardest difficulties.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted March 26, 2024 04:25 PM |
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I tested Alex's Wisdom hack today. (Wisdom x 64)
And I just wanted to say that it seems like this actually makes the game really hard
Most of AI's heroes crossed islands very easily, tried to attack my towns constantly and also managed to assemble huge armies. 
I think this might in fact be a little too hard, I think I might just use the first Wisdom hack Alex provided. (Wisdom x 1 or maybe Wisdom x 8 or something, instead of the normal 1/2 multiplier.)
(It could also have something to do with the fact that there is now a Warehouse of Gold near every starting town, but I don't think that makes such a huge difference.)
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted March 28, 2024 05:26 AM |
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So, you're always complaining about how flawed the AI is, now you found an hack that works and you quit using it cause you think it's too hard?
I have no words.
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted March 28, 2024 07:51 AM |
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Take it easy mate.
It's about balance. 
Playing a super difficult game, is not always fun, it just means things drag on and take a long time. I suppose I could have won, if I felt like it, but I did'nt at that point.
Of course it's not fun, if the game is too easy either.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted March 28, 2024 08:17 AM |
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HUMAN AI MOD! DIFFICULTY MOD!
What is your true level? Your 20 years were wasted! An example of hot chili sauce changed into sweet ice cream..
But thanks for honest friend..
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