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purerogue3
Famous Hero
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posted August 08, 2024 05:25 PM |
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effect of unit level
All units are listed as levels 1-7.
I made pikemen level 8 in the unit data in .exe and the game still worked.
Besides creature specialists, and spell specialists, is there any effect at all?
On a game design consideration, unlike in King's Bounty where unit level directly effected the damage calculation in a major way, the lack of importance in H(1-3) besides attenuating specialist damage spells, the scaling for unit specialists is cosmetic.
However, 'levels' are indirectly insinuated by skill:att/def - in the ignoring of such by damage spells. (ie. it's much more effective to zap a att/def=20/20 unit than it is a 0/0 one.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted August 08, 2024 06:42 PM |
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I guess it will affect random monster 1-7 on the map, if you put pikemen at level 8 perhaps they will not be generated at all?
Also it should affect creature specialty bonus gaining bonus every 1-7 levels and spell specialties like you said.
Btw. where do you change a units level?, I don't see it in crtraits.txt.
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purerogue3
Famous Hero
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posted August 08, 2024 06:56 PM |
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Good pt. I forgot about that. Random maps won't generated properly.
It's in btb's guide.. "5. Units" ... "data" .. 5th bit (0-6)
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted August 08, 2024 07:00 PM |
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purerogue3 said:
It's in btb's guide.. "5. Units" ... "data" .. 5th bit (0-6)
Ahh okay, thanks.
I guess it could make sense to remove useless units like peasants for example.
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purerogue3
Famous Hero
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posted August 08, 2024 07:47 PM |
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Why would you want to remove peasants - I love peasants. The lower the skills you give them, the bigger they buff up.
I just wanted to scale the spell specialties better, then realized unit level is completely irrevelant to anything else.
But I'd mimick the effect of levels via att/def differences.
However att is regressive while def is progressive.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted August 08, 2024 08:12 PM |
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Peasants are just useless.
They are not qualified to be a level 1 unit, if I'm being generous they might be level MINUS 1. 
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purerogue3
Famous Hero
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posted August 08, 2024 09:18 PM |
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I have sprites at 1hp, imps at 2hp and peasants at 3hp.
I made them the base troop of castle, an idea i stole from ERA, and most importantly they upgrade to MILITIA - just because I cannot forget how utterly cool they were in King's Bounty.
Also sprites are cool but it's unnecessary to give them no retaliation or other abilities as their insane dmg (at 0-1) to hp ratio, if you make them very very cheap, makes for great situational gameplay.
Imps at 0-1dmg also, but upgraded ones to 1dmg, with the lack of bless spell for inferno and restricted water magic skill, means if you can somehow get expert water magic+bless (forbid Adela..) expect fireworks.
But the unit pricing is all wrong unmodded, lots to change there.
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baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted August 09, 2024 03:56 PM |
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Yes its only for some map grneration function. Maybe some spells or skills... Its not important thing. First is unit number and stats.
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purerogue3
Famous Hero
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posted August 09, 2024 07:52 PM |
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Pikeman=lvl8 ->still get a horde of pikeman guarding a low level treasure.
Does not effect Pandora box w/creature. (Template editor)
Map generator uses only AI value it seems.
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baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted August 10, 2024 03:30 PM |
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As you see. Hard to investigate what does it work... Small function.
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