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Thread: My tirade against the youth of today
Xenophanes
Xenophanes


Promising
Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
posted July 01, 2002 05:13 PM

My tirade against the youth of today

Yesterday, I was called over to someone's house to Dungeon Master for a group of people. I got there, and promptly set up shop.

When I started out with this group, it was my first time really playing D&D(third ed.). Originally, I had thought that some of the starting amounts of health given to level 1 characters were outrageously low. I "edited" that.

It turned out that this backfired on me, and the characters progressed in level too easily, and eventually could defeat things like Titans with ease. Upon finishing that first adventure, I told them all that we would have to re-create these characters, as they were much too powerful, and to use them anymore would just be redundant. First, however, I needed to solve the problems that led to the over-powering. I had to playtest with a normal party of characters with the normal amount of health and see what happened. I also wanted to experiment with the way that a fighter's damage never goes up.

So, yesterday I was called over to DM. I quickly explained to people that today we were going to have to do the playtesting thing, so make extremely shallow characters, no name, bio, age, etc., and only do the most vital stats(health, abilities, weapons, NO SKILLS). Within a minute they were all belly-aching and whining about, "UUUUUh, this is booooring. I thought we were going to play."

I realized then that I was in a room full of not the youth of today, but children. People who should know well enough to act their age when they were acting like two year olds. I cannot stand little kids. I bristled. Not only had I been invited over there, but I had informed this group prior that this would be what we would have to do the next time we met for a D&D session. Plus, I timed how long it took to make these "shallow" characters. Five minutes. Five minutes if everyone would quit their belly-aching and complaining and just do it. Instead, we had to drag it out over a time of forty minutes, with me finally getting one person to cooperate, and then anothern grudgingly, and I ended up having to do that last person's. Once we were finally ready, we started playing. One person attempted immediately to kill his character. I had seen him behave like this before in D&D, but he had been the one to invite me to DM for this group.

Furthermore, we only had five minutes before I had an appointment to go to. I wasted over an hour of my valuable time when I could have been doing something like Latin. Why wouldn't these people just get it overwith, after they had invited me over and I had warned them beforehand?

My conclusion is that the youth of today are lazy bums who have no sense of purpose or dignity. We need a strict, Draconic(referring to the Athenian law giver) society to abolish these behaviors. We need Order! We need system!
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bort
bort


Honorable
Supreme Hero
Discarded foreskin of morality
posted July 01, 2002 05:21 PM

That's why I only play with twenty-somethings (well, that and the fact that I know longer know any teenagers...)

I've actually noticed that 3rd edition rules make 1st level characters considerably more powerful than they used to be in the earlier editions.  A group of 8 orcs used to be a challenge for 4 1st level characters.  Imagine my chagrin when they tore through them while taking a total of 5 points of damage (and these characters weren't min-maxed...)

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arachnid
arachnid


Promising
Famous Hero
posted July 01, 2002 05:51 PM


i dont play dm at all but i know a bit about it. It seems to me you made the mistake of editing the rules, dont you think the people who made the edition did hours and hours of testing to make sure it was completely fair? So not only did you ignore what the rules of the game causing it to fail later on. You then wanted people to spend hours testing the rules??? Um why?

Looks like you made all the mistakes:
1)changing the preset rules
2)spending an hour testing the rules when they surely have been tested by the people that made the new edition
3)making it boooooring
4)playing with children
5) knowing where these idiots live
6)playing d&d instead of neverwinter nights
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Darion
Darion


Promising
Famous Hero
posted July 02, 2002 12:53 AM

That's not true! There is a small minority of youth that actually have brains they use to think with. The trick is finding those youth that don't whine and complain... kind of like finding the right spouse you see? I mean, you don't just expect EVERY woman or man out there to be absolutely compatible with you, do your every wish and be sweet, loving and caring in every single way you want them to be right? Heck, you don't expect every single man or woman to be a decent person either! It is the same way with intelligent, congenial, creative, and respectful youth..... we're like parking spaces, all the good ones are taken.
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Gimmickless
Gimmickless


Promising
Known Hero
Cannon Maker
posted July 02, 2002 09:52 AM

I say we lock up the youth in closets from 12 on until they turn 25. That way, they'll stay out of us responsible people's hair and let us get on with sensible things. When they're let out, they can be more or less fully functional members of this antfarm society of ours. Not only that, their car insurance rates will be reasonable.

We can conveniently forget that the past twenty years of popular music and "fashion" ever happened. Small-time religious cults  heavily influenced by folk susperstitions will dry up. pEoPle WhO tYpE lIkE tHiS wOn'T bE oNlInE. Yes, most small annoyances caused by the indescretion of youth will by and large disappear from this great world of ours. We can get on to larger problems after we take care of those pesky kids.

Let's band together and lock up the youth! Our future depends on it!
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Mysia
Mysia


Hired Hero
I am Insane, So Humor Me
posted July 04, 2002 04:01 AM

*cough-cough* um... Xenophanes, aren't you leaving something out? Maybe the fact that those "children" are kinda um... well, figure it out for yourself.  If you are really so thick that you can't notice the large gap that you left out in this thread that I would be oh so happy to fill, IM me.  (and don't let Lupin read this)
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bort
bort


Honorable
Supreme Hero
Discarded foreskin of morality
posted July 04, 2002 05:12 PM

Quote:
I say we lock up the youth in closets from 12 on until they turn 25. That way, they'll stay out of us responsible people's hair and let us get on with sensible things.



I've often wondered if there's an age limit on when you can put your kid up for adoption.  The way I figure it, as soon as they start showing the first sign of adolescence, it's off to foster care for them and you can pick them up again when they're 18 or so. Well, it's better than *I* deserved as a teenager (especially 13-14... oh those wern't pleasent years)

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