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cbanken
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posted February 09, 2003 11:52 PM |
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Strategy against griffin conservatories
Was just wondering if anyone knows any good strategies to beat 150 griffins at the griffin conservatory as quickly as possible. Preferably with a rampart starting town? Curious to know how quickly the best players out there could be able to beat them. In my map there are little extras, little chance for xp, fancy spells, etc. THanks
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Sir_Stiven
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Legendary Hero
banned
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posted February 10, 2003 10:10 AM |
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if small cons you can take em out day1.
You better wait for an archie reply here tho, i guess his the expert of the subject 
I am learning tho 
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Kuma
Promising
Supreme Hero
u can type so much text in her
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posted February 10, 2003 10:55 AM |
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Archie's corner
*Waiting for the master*
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted February 10, 2003 03:00 PM |
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fear not the cons tosser has arrived
well theres many strategy to taking a conservatory. a 150 griffon cons is no problem to deal day 8.
unfortenatly they all contain to many key moves to descrive in words.
i no longer have the game installed so i cant make screen shoots.
i once made screenshoots for a hive tactic, the tactic used in those screenshoots can easily be transformed into a succesfull cons tactic.
thread is still in here under homm3 tactics (thread made by frank)
if i find a copy of heroes somewhere i will make some screenshoots hope this dont lead to me actually playing again tho .. scary.
/still on a break motorarchie
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Kuma
Promising
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u can type so much text in her
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posted February 10, 2003 03:29 PM |
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H3 needs u man.
Come back from the break now, ok?
Kuma no Break
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Sir_Stiven
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Legendary Hero
banned
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posted February 10, 2003 03:31 PM |
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hehe dont worry kuma
"operation persuation" has begun 
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cbanken
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 11, 2003 01:26 PM |
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only for 130 or higher?
Does these strategies only work for 130 difficulty or higher? Are there any strategies that works for easier difficulty?
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted February 11, 2003 02:17 PM |
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Does these strategies only work for 130 difficulty or higher? Are there any strategies that works for easier difficulty?
yes they work for every size conservatory 150 was just an example.
/archie
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AndiAngelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted February 11, 2003 02:51 PM |
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The only good strategy vs Cons is: play without them
I played many randoms with Rychentechnodancer , and the most boring always were angel collecting ones...
whats the point in collecting L7s or Wyvern without having to build them? makes a dragon or devil building in town for example useless often,you should have to WORK for your L7s and maximum speed on map - thats no HOMM running with a units that kill everything and cost u nothing...
As for taking them out, of course you can take out 50 griffs if u lucky, but dont listen to sir_noob - seldom you can take out a Cons day 1, or do you pick shakti and galthran every game? Nope? Ok than show me how you kill 50 grifs that surround you day1, im curious...
From throng on: you want mass spells, you want 1 killer stack, you want strong shooters maybe cornered, zzzzz who needs a tactic for that?
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted February 11, 2003 04:00 PM |
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The only good strategy vs Cons is: play without them
I played many randoms with Rychentechnodancer , and the most boring always were angel collecting ones...
whats the point in collecting L7s or Wyvern without having to build them? makes a dragon or devil building in town for example useless often,you should have to WORK for your L7s and maximum speed on map - thats no HOMM running with a units that kill everything and cost u nothing...
As for taking them out, of course you can take out 50 griffs if u lucky, but dont listen to sir_noob - seldom you can take out a Cons day 1, or do you pick shakti and galthran every game? Nope? Ok than show me how you kill 50 grifs that surround you day1, im curious...
From throng on: you want mass spells, you want 1 killer stack, you want strong shooters maybe cornered, zzzzz who needs a tactic for that?
as far as needing mass spells for 100 cons and up .. well thats just WRONG, but i dont have the energy to toss about that.
i c yr other point andi, but there are many items in homm3 that wont make random maps fair, like relics, dragon utopias and the fact that the random generator has no logic in the guards for differnet items.
so in my mind hives and cons is essential for the game since the skill lies in taking them early or realising u have to move in fast as u have nothing valuble in yr area and most likely yr opponent is better off.
But Its random and the cons / hives will not always be evenly aranged for both players.
in my mind this is what makes random fun .. u do the best of what u got and beating the odds sure is the victores u will remeber.
if u take away these items, gold and banks etc will have an even more important roll in the game so i dont think playing without cons / hives make for a more fair game.
/Archie.
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AndiAngelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted February 11, 2003 04:12 PM |
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hola arch, as for the mass spells: was just 1 thing that helps taking them early, you can add blind, fast food, good might hero, well you know everything that helps hehe.
As for that many things unbalance HOMM: yes of course, but running around with angels that grow and grow is boring thats what i mean, i totally hate it.
For me the most thrilling part is to get your builds done, specially upgraded L7, and if i can have many Angels for free ealy of course i skip my Town builds and upgrade low Level creatures early (best example is crusader, why work your ass off for angel build if theres 5 cons around and you can start kicking ass early...).
A side note on the skill is taking them early: not really, once you get past the noob status its easy lol since you can afford to loose all your low level troops
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted February 11, 2003 04:14 PM |
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i would just like to add RANDOM is RANDOM.
Loosing on a random against an opponent with angels from conservatories isent a big deal to me but i know for some it is.
But the truth is that just as often as u loose to opp with angels u loose to an opponent with more banks and free gold on randoms, its just less obvious that these are key elemens to win or loose in the game as u dont actually c the reason in final combat.
/Archie
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Sir_Stiven
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posted February 11, 2003 04:25 PM |
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bah this is all about andi knows he aint good with em so he tries and set a "standard" to everyone to play w/o em.
Same thing with playing me with set towns, he knows his chances there aint as good as playing with random since if we both get "grass heaven" i will manage mine better (feel free to prove me wrong andi).
And in my eyes "you earn" your lvl 7 creatures fighting for em as you do building for them. Most ppl can manage lvl 7 creatures first week on ring template or a TOH set map...where is the earning in that? If you andi wanna "earn" your lvl 7 creatures...then why toss at set maps where its harder not to get them than get them?
toss toss toss.
oh and btw, he asked when you can take cons..and day1 is obviously the earliest then right? That doesnt mean every player can do it day1 with any hero, it means that the first possible day to do it is day1. so there.
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in my mind this is what makes random fun .. u do the best of what u got and beating the odds sure is the victores u will remeber.
if u take away these items, gold and banks etc will have an even more important roll in the game so i dont think playing without cons / hives make for a more fair game.
Atleast some words of wisdom here
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AndiAngelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted February 11, 2003 04:33 PM |
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Stiven this is the really last time i talk to you in any way, you a bloody noob with a big mouth that thinks hes the greatest and knows NADA.
Im not good with Cons? if you would understand anything you would notice that i just dont like them, just like i hate earth tome - does that mean im not good with it eh?
Whos the noob if he needs to pick towns? whos the noob if he can only play with the easiest towns on rdm? whos the fraidy cat that doesnt risk anything, you think im bad at playing gras heaven? ask arch or rychen how i rushed em, just like they did me...
But as i said, you not worth wasting time anymore, talk to other noobs but stay outta serious vet discussions next time - /ignore stiven forever
P.S. wow your mommy thought ya how to count now? day1 is the first day? as cool as your other statements...
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Sir_Stiven
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posted February 11, 2003 04:55 PM |
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Just for the record:
No i dont think i am the greatest, nor do i think that i am one of the best. But doesnt mean i cant have my saying does it? Because i know i have valid points for what i am saying.
And yes, i do know i have a big mouth..and if you dont wanna listen to it just dont. It aint like im screaming things in your ears is it? if you dont wanna see what i write...then dont. simple as that.
One thing though that i think you should learn, when it comes to discussions its the points the people make you should take under concideration not the ppl behind them. Then you can make up your mind if you wanna keep listening or disagree or ignore or whatever you wanna do
And talking about discussion, atleast i raised some valid points about what i was talking about. I didnt go to the personal insult level
oh and btw, i never said i was only willing to go with set towns. I said that i thought you were afraid to play by those rules and therefor tried to mock em. Which you still seem to try btw
And yes, i do think it was my mother who taught me to count actually
But that wasnt was this was about, the author of thread asked how fast ppl can take em, I answered day1. Not which day which comes first
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted February 11, 2003 05:18 PM |
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I wont point fingers but i think its sad to c that most discussions even such an instresting thread as this one, usually end up in an arguement not often totally irelevant to the issue, instead of realizing every1 has there own preferences.
/Archie
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Hexa
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posted February 11, 2003 07:57 PM |
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U are right Archie...guess it would be intersting to check out the correlation between certain members and this phenomenon!@
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bjorn190
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Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted February 11, 2003 09:37 PM |
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Its well known that Andi likes to play might heroes on fixed maps and therefore tries to eliminate these things:
1.Earth tome
2.Fly/DD
3.Summon earth elemental
4.random maps
And anything else that makes magic powerful, and then he saiys that magic sucks. Itīs a self fulfilling prophecy.
If you look at what Andi says, you will see this preference for making might more powerful, and promoting fixed maps over randoms. It is something he cannot hide
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AndiAngelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted February 11, 2003 10:22 PM |
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unlike you tossers i can play with everything, just coz your skill is limited dont try to toss me if you dunno what you speak of noob
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chubby051
Promising
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King of All That Are Fat
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posted February 12, 2003 06:35 AM |
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I have the screen shots and walk through info still, if ya want them email me because I have no place to post them on the web. Or leave you email here and I will send it to you.
Teach me more arch.
Chubbs
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