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Thread: Take back the Foos, US re-programming This thread is 9 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 · «PREV / NEXT»
Peacemaker
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posted February 26, 2003 05:51 AM

I fail to see how our "equality" during the Mexican American War justified the land-grab.  Once again, economics have mostly to do with the direction of the tide of humanity across that border.  And once again, it is their own old territory into which they are flooding,  The United States certainly has the economic edge, but one must recall how we got that way.  We seem to think ourselves superior despite every head-start in first-world economics.  I really do think we should take second look at our own arrogance in our pot-shots at second-and third-world counties who did not have those same head-start advantages in world economics, who are trying still to catch up. It people are taking shots at Americans, perhaps it is because of our own short-sightedness in the way we percieve and express ourselves and behave toward other countries in the global arena.  Then again, as I am Native American, perhaps I lend too jaded an eye to the United States.

Sorry if I bothered you by not making myself clear.  Thanks to you all for letting me participate.  This has been stimulating.
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Kuma
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posted February 26, 2003 11:30 AM

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People from countries all over the world are trying to get into our borders every day--for jobs, for education, for a better way of life, even simply for freedom.
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Like in holland and other 'rich western country'

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We have a lifestyle that everyone, for the most part, seems to want and yet most of the rhetoric you see bouncing around in these threads is tinged with negativity toward us.

I wonder why that is?  Is it contempt?  Is it jealousy?
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Personally I think 'the' lifestyle of the Americans is kinda funny and for some points interesting.
But all countries have something in their lifestyle that's interesting (Beerfest in Germany, Tango in South-America, workdiscipline in Azia, u name it)

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Our population is comprised of people whose ancestry can be traced back to just about every country in the world.  In a way, we are you, just not purely you.  We're a mixture of all of you.
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And that is exactly what my thread is about: You are us and we need to take responsability and teach some of the old values.
Cause it is our fault that u r who u r: we sent all the idiots overseas.
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privatehudson
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posted February 26, 2003 12:01 PM

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However before you attack America remember:
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Before you make assumptions remember: Germany held off Britain, France, Russia and America for 4 years virtually alone with a population dwarfed by the combined totals of those nations. Virtually Every major battle they fought in that period they were dwarfed in size by their enemies and they still held them off in the main. There's not many armies that can recover from the disasters of Stalingrad (where hundreds of thousands surrendered), Falaise (where 90% of the army in France in 1944 was anhialated), The Bulge (where almost all the remaining reserves of the army were lost) or El-Alamien and still fight on in the same ferocious manner.

Put Europe's power together and we'd be more of a match economically and millitarily for america. America's main power lies in it's vast industrial might and resources, but between the whole of a united europe we would be more than capable of matching this.
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goodpig
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posted February 26, 2003 10:10 PM


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Before you make assumptions remember: Germany held off Britain, France, Russia and America for 4 years virtually alone with a population dwarfed by the combined totals of those nations. Virtually Every major battle they fought in that period they were dwarfed in size by their enemies and they still held them off in the main. There's not many armies that can recover from the disasters of Stalingrad (where hundreds of thousands surrendered), Falaise (where 90% of the army in France in 1944 was anhialated), The Bulge (where almost all the remaining reserves of the army were lost) or El-Alamien and still fight on in the same ferocious manner.

Put Europe's power together and we'd be more of a match economically and millitarily for america. America's main power lies in it's vast industrial might and resources, but between the whole of a united europe we would be more than capable of matching this.



Maybe but for one thing: America didn't fight all the time of the war. We sort of stepped into the war in the middle of it.

Also we now have nuclear weapons (that we didn't all of WW2) that would seriously hurt you guys. Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki?


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posted February 26, 2003 10:50 PM
Edited By: PsYkOtIc-Dragoon on 26 Feb 2003

hmmm

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We have a lifestyle that everyone, for the most part, seems to want and yet most of the rhetoric you see bouncing around in these threads is tinged with negativity toward us.

I wonder why that is?  Is it contempt?  Is it jealousy?



Heh....It's probably cuz like 90% of your politicians are corrupt and money/power-hungry...and they would do anything for some....And we also know George Bush isn't any better than the rest....  We know he just basically wants to own EVERYTHING....probably gonna try to get all the oil or some BS like that i dunno but it's obvious he aint right....just look at what happened since he's president...9-11....that iraq bull$hit (wich makes absolutely NO sense considering USA has about 20 times more nuclear war heads than Iraq could ever dream of)


And another thing!!!! Some Americans know feck all about Canada and we live right next to em!  Some think we live in Igloo's and stuff...We even have a TV show where this guy goes to USA and says a bunch of dumb things not true about us and the americans beleive it! its sooooooooooooooooooooo funny to see such idiots! (no offense you ppl from USA im just making fun of the ppl that they seen on that show lol)
I think i've made my point
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privatehudson
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posted February 26, 2003 11:32 PM

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Maybe but for one thing: America didn't fight all the time of the war. We sort of stepped into the war in the middle of it.


The 4 year period I mentioned covered america's entire involvement. It took 4 extremely powerful (on the world stage anyway) nations including america to take down 1 european one (arguably the most powerful european one at that).

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Also we now have nuclear weapons (that we didn't all of WW2) that would seriously hurt you guys. Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki?




When last I checked, so does Russia, France and Britain....
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posted February 27, 2003 03:32 AM

I know what the next reply is going to be: "But we (the americans) got way more than all of you combined.

But basically, that comes down to: "You can blow us up five times, we can blow you up twenty times."

But we will still all be dead.
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LichKing
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posted February 27, 2003 05:06 AM

Actually

I was thinking along the lines of "Why can't we all just get along?"
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Kuma
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posted February 27, 2003 10:44 AM

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Also we now have nuclear weapons (that we didn't all of WW2) that would seriously hurt you guys. Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki?



When last I checked, so does Russia, France and Britain....


China, Pakistan, North korea.


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goodpig
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posted February 27, 2003 05:32 PM

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I know what the next reply is going to be: "But we (the americans) got way more than all of you combined.

But basically, that comes down to: "You can blow us up five times, we can blow you up twenty times."

But we will still all be dead.


True that's why this topic is garbage.

And even if all the Europeans combined (which is a big "if)
It would still be a huge war considering we have the best navy,air force, technology ect. And the most nukes.
But fortunately that probably wouldn't happen because you guys are supposedly our allies.
And why do you call us "the land of fools?"
It takes you all of your countries. Every single one of them to even stand a chance against us. If were fools that says a multitude about your countries.
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Kuma
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posted February 27, 2003 05:42 PM

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I know what the next reply is going to be: "But we (the americans) got way more than all of you combined.

But basically, that comes down to: "You can blow us up five times, we can blow you up twenty times."

But we will still all be dead.


True that's why this topic is garbage.

And even if all the Europeans combined (which is a big "if)
It would still be a huge war considering we have the best navy,air force, technology ect. And the most nukes.
But fortunately that probably wouldn't happen because you guys are supposedly our allies.
And why do you call us "the land of fools?"
It takes you all of your countries. Every single one of them to even stand a chance against us. If were fools that says a multitude about your countries.


This topic is not about who would win a war: Europe or US.
This topic is about re-educating the (grand-grand childrens of the) fools we've sent overseas who actually 'think' that a joke about the foolishness of some of the Americans could end in a war.


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bort
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posted February 27, 2003 05:58 PM

Precisely!  What we really need is for you to teach us real sports like, um... cricket and erm... curling...  you know what... keep your sticky wickets to yourselves.

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Kuma
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posted February 27, 2003 06:09 PM

ok a pass on cricket.
Would be too hard to explain anyway
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posted February 27, 2003 06:13 PM

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This topic is not about who would win a war: Europe or US.
This topic is about re-educating the (grand-grand childrens of the) fools we've sent overseas who actually 'think' that a joke about the foolishness of some of the Americans could end in a war.




For the record, it was lord crusader(who apparently is Mexican) who first decided that this thread was about a war between Europe and the US
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reynaert
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posted February 27, 2003 08:52 PM

This reminds me of the 1959 movie 'on the beach'... You know the ending? All people take cyanide pills. After a world war... SO...
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goodpig
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posted February 27, 2003 10:01 PM

My response was for Lord Crusader.
As far as Kuma's topic ... whatever. I don't care anout that I mean maybe we could learn a few things from europeans, I just don't like the "fools" part.
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Lord_Woock
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posted February 27, 2003 10:18 PM

Well, everyone can learn something from everyone. Well, ok. Make that almost everyone.
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Kuma
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posted February 28, 2003 11:16 AM

Lighten up Goddpiggy, this is just a fun thread.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted February 28, 2003 04:17 PM

yeah and you are spoiling it pig...ya fool

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goodpig
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posted February 28, 2003 10:05 PM

Oh screw it what do I care?
This topic was all fine and good and I even joked about it earlier. But when somebody is making threats about attacking my country (especially after the terrible terrorist trouble we have), I don't think that is too funny with all due respect.
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