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Kage
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 06, 2003 04:09 AM |
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Casting resurrection?
Well I have been playing this game for some time now but there are still a few things i havent figured out yet.One of those things is the ressurrection spell.How come I get to keep the ressurected creatures that survive the battle sometimes and other times I dont. Is there a rule that has to be followed or is this another random decision made by the game?
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lord_crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted March 06, 2003 04:25 AM |
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I see you are new in this game more than me... 
All the heroes have a primary skills (attack, defense, spell power, knowledge) and secondary skills (like earth magic, offense, water magic, logistics etc) all the spells are from a any magic school(water, air, earth, fire), the resurrect spell is from the earth magic school, you need to have earth magic advanced to coserve the resurrected creatures after battle, if you don't have advanced earth magic, your resurrect spell doesn't give you the resurrected troops after battle.
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Planeswalker
Famous Hero
Chaotic Good
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posted March 11, 2003 01:59 PM |
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But this is actually a bit confusing.
See, in H3 the hero got to keep the creatures he animated with the "Animate Dead" spell, but in H4 this works differently. All creatures you animate during combat are lost after battle.
Don't know if it's the same with ressurection, but I don't think so.
But in H4 you can animate every kind of creature, also enemy ones. In H3 you can only animate friendly, undead targets.
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shankara
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 18, 2003 04:05 AM |
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>> suppose you have expert fire magic and expert earth magic. can anyone explain to me why the heck would i want to use the sacrifice spell (sacrifice a stack to ressurect another) when i can use the ressurection spell (ressurect a stack at no other cost aside from the mana)
>> what about in other proficiency levels of fire and earty magic?
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Dingo
Responsible
Legendary Hero
God of Dark SPAM
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posted January 23, 2004 08:08 AM |
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yeah sacrifice sucks. It would be nice if you could sacrifice your summoned elementals, but no. Ressurection is definately better than Sacrifice
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Lich_King
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted January 23, 2004 01:12 PM |
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You're wrong. Sacrifice is a way lot better, then Ressurection, cuz it revives more HP. Let's say, you have low level troops left and high level killed. Your enemy has low level units too, but more. You cast ressurection on high level unit and get few of them, but when you cast sacrifice on that you'll get doubuled HP of sacrificed unit stack... And that's a lot of HP.
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KingofMinota...
Known Hero
Ruling the minotaurs below
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posted January 26, 2004 07:00 PM |
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well it still stinks, i would rather keep the low level, plus cast ressurect. And if you are talking about H3 sacrifice doesn't even work on Black Dragons
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Odvin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted January 26, 2004 07:48 PM |
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well it still stinks, i would rather keep the low level, plus cast ressurect. And if you are talking about H3 sacrifice doesn't even work on Black Dragons
Even? You mean you can't sacrifice them or resurrect them?
And btw, while I was working on the 2nd version of my Heroic Calculator (that project is a bit dead right now) I was quite impressed by the effect of the sacrifice spell compared to resurrect... I myself didn't use it in combat but actually it revives a LOT more HPs.
Let's calculate it. You have an exp. fire / exp. earth hero with spellpower... say 15 and a stack of 300 stinky imps and 60 devils. Your devils are down and you're trying to save your ass. Let's say you cast resurrection. What will it be? 910 HPs = 5,7 devils resurrected. Well, not that bad.
Now let's say you decide to get rid of your useless stinky imps and sacrifice them. That'll be just 8700 HPs. Makes really no difference, right? Just 54 devils brought up. Huh...
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted January 26, 2004 08:08 PM |
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Couldnīt say it better than odvin....sacrifice is the more better choice than resurrection is...iīm not quite sure, but even if you havenīt got "firemagic", you can revive more units than with expert resurrection....
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KingofMinota...
Known Hero
Ruling the minotaurs below
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posted January 27, 2004 05:01 AM |
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yeah that is pretty sweet then when you put it like that. especially when you only have imps/familiars. And no Black Dragons are immune to any spell in the game. Even the highest spells.
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Odvin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted January 27, 2004 02:37 PM |
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And no Black Dragons are immune to any spell in the game. Even the highest spells.
What do you want to say? I just asked what would you like to do with Blackies if they aren't immune - sacrifice them or resurrect them using sacrifice? 
Btw it was pointed out somewhere on this forum that 'Sacrifice' is actually two spells in one - the first one actually sacrifices (kills) one of your stacks, while the second one resurrects another stack. The first one is level 5, while the second one is level 4, so for example you can sacrifice Goldies, but not resurrect them by sacrificing some other stack. I do not know whether this really is true, but seems quite logical to me...
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KingofMinota...
Known Hero
Ruling the minotaurs below
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posted January 27, 2004 06:20 PM |
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oh i wouldn't sacrifice them if they weren't immune... i think they are too good. But also it depends on who you would ressurect once sacrificing them. Imo, if i ever did sacrifice black dragons (if not immune) i would only ressurect lvl 7 creatures.
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Lich_King
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted January 27, 2004 06:27 PM |
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Black Dragons aren't the best units in Homm3.
In Homm4, at least WoW they are not too...
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KingofMinota...
Known Hero
Ruling the minotaurs below
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posted January 27, 2004 06:29 PM |
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umm... excuse me if it sounded like i said that, but that is not what i meant. I just meant that they are a very good unit and i would not want to sacrifice them at all.
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Odvin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted January 27, 2004 06:50 PM |
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Black Dragons aren't the best units in Homm3.
In Homm4, at least WoW they are not too...
Remember Homm2?
Blackies are among the greatest anyway. Even if they're not the greatest, but they're the symbol of Heroes, the symbol of power... don't you often feel somewhat uncomfortable when seeing Blackies on the opponent's side?
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Lich_King
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted January 27, 2004 06:55 PM |
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In Homm3 ? Not really.. I fear Titans more or Archangels, but in Homm4 it is not very pleasent sight to see BD on oponents side, that is true... Too bad I never played Homm2 
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KingofMinota...
Known Hero
Ruling the minotaurs below
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posted January 27, 2004 06:55 PM |
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lol i totally agree. I don't think going into a battle with a few black dragons will be very comforting. They are among the best tho' in H3. Archangel i think we can agree IS the best, but i am sure black dragons can come into a close 2nd or at least 3rd.
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