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Blue_Camel
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posted April 14, 2003 06:37 AM |
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New Rule for Clans Proposal
Ok, I was thinking and I had a proposition for a rule that I think should be enforced in Clans of Axeoth. I know you're thinkng "oh what does camel know about clans", but at least hear me out.
To prevent a clan from being 100x better than others, there should be a new rule: once a clan gets 2 lords on it, then one of those lords has to go and start a new clan. (of course im talking about Unholy Alliance and Wisdom Empire)
I know, I've already heard the song and dance about how you started clan as a bunch of squires/barons and just turned into lords over time. And I congratulate you for your success. But if you enforce this new rule, it makes clans a lot more competitive because there is a balance of power, not to mention it also gives a lot of squires and barons (who previously couldn't join a clan because there werent any openings) the opportunity to join a clan because several more clans would start. Think about it (i am talking to the lords who have already made up their mind that they are against this rule), this will make clans a lot more fun than they currently are (for example, right now, any clan that fights Unholy Alliance loses... its just a fact... a clan with a mixture of squires and barons and maybe a couple legionnaires doesnt have much chance against a clan in which ALL 4 MEMBERS ARE LORDS...)
I could go on, but I think I've already gotten the point across. I know this rule will break up Unholy and Wisdom's nice little 2 clan game, but I think it is best for clans of axeoth and the rest of TOH.
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Tc_Fear
Famous Hero
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posted April 14, 2003 08:47 AM |
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agree
there should be more clans
but it wont be 
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted April 14, 2003 03:34 PM |
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actually camel
laws of nature should take care of that..
..meaning,as bonuses difference from 2-3 top teams gets bigger..they should be harder for them to set up wars.
why play a clan ,having 90% losing chances?
as example.Myrmidons will not fight Unholly Alliance or Wisdome Empire ,until it gets to lev1 glyph advance.
so if they dont care.playing 1war per 2 months,why should we?
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted April 14, 2003 05:19 PM |
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hehe bacharakis wouldn't you wish you weren't a elementalist clan ?! If I am not mistaking you can't refuse playing us, so enough of that !
and to answer to camel, you play this game to win right ? if you are good, you win, if not you don't, simple as that ( ranks should not get in the way, i was beaten by squires before, so what's the big deal, it's not that we choose a map that will definitely crush the other one, even Jinxer can agree with me here since i played his own map agains him; )
so stop whining about lords in clans and start winning some games, besides, if your rule was to be set, then that means each member of my clan goes out to make a clan of his own ... how would we divide our lands ? so that means we fought for nothing all this time, get real ! clans are good the way they are, and with a good bunch of rogue clans showing up you should be able to rise, if you are good, if not, go study the h4 manual, cause the team is not only based on its leader !
Edited : look at all the barons that are showing up and are not into a clan, why don't you ask them to form new ones instead of making such demands ?!
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted April 14, 2003 05:44 PM |
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If I am not mistaking you can't refuse playing us
oooh,you are mistaken..
b0y
open your eyes
only 2 clans are not archenemies to us
yet..of course we will play again
in about 14 wars from now..and we may even have one more land by then!..who knows..
our team believe in miracles.
so dont even bother..asking us..vaal
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted April 14, 2003 09:10 PM |
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you still can't refuse us, and don't try the 3 wars thing cause i will email ves and ask him if you sent mail, so do the right thing, try beating us
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Jex
Known Hero
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posted April 14, 2003 10:02 PM |
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Good Idea!!
Yes, there needs to be more clans.
When jiels let people know that he was starting a new clan tons of people asked him to join. There are lots of people out there that would prolly be more active in ToH if they were in a Clan.
It is a shame all the "Lords" dont bother to try and rule the land for themselves. The "Lords" prefer to be ruled.
It is rather pathetic that all those lords are toooooo chicken to make their own clans. Perhaps they have forgotten how to play without all those bonuses.
Oh well it is the same old story as H3. Lets all join the Vulcan Forge 
Although I seem to recall Ves making a rule limiting the amount of Colonels in a Division? Or You had to be the second in command if you were a Colonel.....I cant remember... But it is definitely not a new idea.
Btw: Arent Insat and Valk in a War??
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted April 14, 2003 10:09 PM |
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Quote:
Edited : look at all the barons that are showing up and are not into a clan, why don't you ask them to form new ones instead of making such demands ?!
That post shows exactly what I mean about the current situation, valk. You selfish Lords would rather make the weaker players start a clan than starting some yourselves. "If we split off, how would divide the lands?" Come on. Don't let something trivial like that stop progress. Clans is for fun. Yes, the little 2 clan game may be fun for you, but it makes clans not fun for the other 95% of toh. But for your little problem, my proposal would be to simply split the lands equally among you. No one else has even close to as many lands as you, so each split-off clan will still have just as many lands as everyone else if not more.
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dEth8
Promising
Known Hero
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posted April 14, 2003 10:22 PM |
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Nice ideal, but the application would suck in my opinion.
It ruins comraderie of going through many battles together and the better you get the worse we try to make life on you.........sounds like the Tax system in the USA to me kinda
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted April 14, 2003 11:07 PM |
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Arent Insat and Valk in a War??
they are, in clan fight
this one is forum fight
btw valk...i been challenged by all my archenemies..
and guess what!,,after we finished,,i re-challenged them !
so,i look forward to our next clan war.
at 2004
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AzureDragonTM
Known Hero
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posted April 14, 2003 11:34 PM |
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Once again I must explain u people why that rule can't work : We r all lords in our clan so if we split the lands we conquered will go to whom ? I mean they will remain in valkyrica possesion ? Those lands we conquered were 90% team work. And that also means a clan will never reach level 3 if we split lands. I have other proposition to u all guys : START LEARNING HOW TO PLAY AND STOP CARE FOR OTHER CLANS.
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Joel
Adventuring Hero
An Underdog (Version 2.0)
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posted April 14, 2003 11:45 PM |
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Gee, I can do that too
START LEARNING HOW TO PLAY OTHER MAPS THAN HEART AND CIRCLE AND STOP CARING ABOUT WHAT WE SAY.
Free advice.
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted April 15, 2003 12:25 AM |
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All im trying to do is plan for the future - if what Ves says is true about H4 being one long season then I REALLY worry about clans down the road. It will become even worse than it is now, with the 2 clans owning absolutely everything (with a few other clans owning a couple lands each, i.e. brotherhood of ring). Now I realize that the idea of clans is to see what clan can conquer all of the land, but do we want this 2 clan dominance for another YEAR (or maybe more..)??????!!!! I think not. I say split the 9 lands (soon to be more) among the 4 lords (maybe valk gets 3 and rest gets 2, since valk is the lowest rated), and each lord starts a new clan. Same with Wisdom Empire, 3 lands go to hidden and 3 to zuddie. IMO if this is not done the 2 clan dominance will just get worse and the rest of the clans will lose interest in clans of axeoth since they'll have no chance of accomplishing anything. Maybe then everyone will just shift to vandea (vandea.com/clans) and desert the Clans of Axeoth... (You should actually start a clan now in Vandea... there are only 2 good clans right now, and we need some more competition. the clans system is very well thought out, and highly recommended by me, balcough, insatiable, gustn, camoes, and riverwind, along with others )
p.s. - to Unholy and Wisdom - of course it is not your fault that you have been so succesful, but it has to be obvious to you that Clans of Axeoth will suffer if some type of move is not made... In short, this move might ruffle a few feathers right now, but it is MUCH MUCH BETTER in the long run.
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AzureDragonTM
Known Hero
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posted April 15, 2003 12:38 AM |
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Jiels, stop flatter yourself anymore... I can beat u on any map, but beating u on heart or circle would be more pleasant for me cause i really like those maps. Try to look at my map list and think of this : I played 23 games on other maps beside Circle or Heart and i have only 6 losses ...so stop barking and beat me if u r so good !!
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted April 15, 2003 12:50 AM |
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i agree with camel 100%
you guys like azuredragonTm and valky think how it feels to be in are shoes
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slayer
whos your daddy and what does he do?
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted April 15, 2003 12:53 AM |
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I would almost bet that those other 23 maps were played against low ranked newbies. If you played all the range of maps agaisnt the top ranked players I bet you would have alot more than 6 losses, but you arent the only player that picks and chooses there opponents/maps very carefully to ensure high % of wins.
No offense to you personally Azure, I think you are decent person, but you and valky both tend to talk abit to cocky. If you are as good as you claim you should be willing to play ANY map at any given time, and any settings etc.
I think its funny that when setting up our clan war, that you guys claim to be soooo great yet when I mentioned playing the war with No artifacts.... Valkyrica about had a fit. It was absolutely outta the question. Seems to me if you were as good and all knowing of the game as you proclaim, you wouldnt need artifacts.
Peace!
Jinxer
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Joel
Adventuring Hero
An Underdog (Version 2.0)
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posted April 15, 2003 12:54 AM |
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WTF?! Where did I ever say I was good?
What does good mean anyways? I've never played a map more than 6 times unlike other people. I have no doubt I'd win a lot more if I stuck to a handful of maps.
But regardless, if you're so good why do you never ask me for a game when I have a room up? Why did you not ask me today when I had a room up? Or when I sat in a room on friday? Insanity is that scary a map?
Whatever, ask me for a game after you display some honour. Maybe then I will play a coward like you.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, but you wouldn't even play Insatiable today right?)
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AzureDragonTM
Known Hero
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posted April 15, 2003 12:57 AM |
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Balcough I'm pretty sure that u guys who r in the clan wars for a shorter period feels no good about facing strong clans. But that was the essence of the clan wars. When we started our clan I was footman, teacher was squire and only valkyrica and SHK were barons. So we fought for our clan and we become lords. I'm sure other clans can do the same. Do u think it's fair for us or for other powerfull clan to change clans every 1 month ? Because that will happens ... eventualy all will become lords and we won't have clan mates for our clans. And for what ? Just because u guys don't want to learn how to play
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted April 15, 2003 01:02 AM |
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yes but you also never played the wisdom empier in a clan war once it seems weord to me why the two strongest clans never faced eachother i think you guys should play alot and switch oppoents
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whos your daddy and what does he do?
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted April 15, 2003 01:03 AM |
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ToH or ToW ... ?
guess what the "w" stands for (Hint : it's not winner(s) )
I am gonna say this for the last time and with this i will end my opinions on this subject .
Facts :
1. We were baron/squire/footman team
2. Winning clan wars helped us become lords ( hell i am supposed to be a baron w/o clan points)
3. We won our games fair and square, we have never forfeited any game
4. There's no rule stating that we have to dismantle the clan after it becomes succesful just because some new ones lack the skill to beat us, you want fairness, I gave more than enough of that (i let you pick your own maps, i even gave prestige to newly created clans, well only werewolf's cause joel said no to clan war, but i still offered)
5. All of you are stating that we are too powerful ! I hope by that you mean the artifacts, not the members cause that would be so hilarious blaming a clan for having good members, and if that's the point, we will prove our strength with joel's new born clan, we will use no artifacts on a map and land chosen by Vesuvius !
6. (continuing point #2) All being lords -> that's not my fault cause you started later than we did, or maybe at the same time but don't have what it takes to win a clan war .
7. and i left this at last, but it's the most important reason i won't listen to your bickerings, I made this clan for the single purpose of me, my brother and my friend azure to play in it (we got SHK along the way), so you can't demand to split a buddies clan just for kicks !
P.S. : bacharakis you should be the last one to complain, we started same time, not my fault you haven't chosen good teammates
I rest my case !
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