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lord_crusader
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posted May 17, 2003 06:24 PM |
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Serius protest
Why in the hell the threads are closed?????????
If you want to close a thread because this thread is very long, why you put the top 10 replies??!!!?!?!?!?!? I really want to protest, for example, I have the "Guess the creature name" thread like if this thread was mineeee, and I want it back, because this thread have many replies all the days and was grow up in the top ten replies, I don't really know why you do that thingggggggggggg grrrgrgrgrgrgrgr
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posted May 17, 2003 06:54 PM |
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Why is achieving a high post count within a thread even a goal for anyone?
Just for the record, the top top threads thing is there and that's it. I did not place it there nor am I against it being there. It is a tool and as any tool, it can be serve more than one narrow purpose.
It's not a matter of quantity versus quality because surely even in the longest of threads it is easy to keep up the high quality throughout its entirety.
Your thread is still your own. I did not steal it, destroy it or change it any way at all. If you want, you may reopen another thread and I will be happy to close my reincarnation.
They were growing long and it was giving the page a bloated look that was uncomfortable to look at. If they are truly important, there should be no change of course in the quality nor quantity of the discussion that takes place.
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posted May 17, 2003 06:57 PM |
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That game doesn't belong to you in any way, lord crusader. After all, it was started by Raging Titan.
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lord_crusader
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posted May 17, 2003 07:02 PM |
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I don't know about the others threads, but in the "guess the creature game" I'm really sure that is a great thread, this thread had a very small of replies that are only for incrementate of the post count, this thread was very interesant because you can learn many things about all the creatures, and I really thing this thread have the enough quality... I don't agree with you...
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That game doesn't belong to you in any way, lord crusader. After all, it was started by Raging Titan.
what part of "this thread is LIKE if this thread was mine" you can't understand????
Yes is by raging titan but I like this thread is not about for the record is about quality, and you woock, you must be agree with me you post there many times...
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Sir_Stiven
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posted May 17, 2003 07:04 PM |
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What i would like to know would be why certain threads has been closed to start with... as red sox pointed out earlier in a thread which i think got deleted by lith, many threads lose their activity when split up.
An example would be Tossers Tavern, which activity dropped alot when first thread was closed. So then i had this conversation with hexa about closing threads, and we reached the conclusion that it doesnt do anything good really.
Because HC/the threads still takes the same time to load since you load each page individually and not the whole thread at once.
So what i would like is an explanation from RMS.
Because IMO it seems alot better to have all threads on one subject at one place and not split up in mixed sequels and such.
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posted May 17, 2003 07:09 PM |
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What further explanation do you want?
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posted May 17, 2003 07:12 PM |
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Because IMO it seems alot better to have all threads on one subject at one place and not split up in mixed sequels and such.
Yes...
many times the mods close threads because this threads contain the same thing than older threads, and now, why you post threads with the same theme, sequels and etc????
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posted May 17, 2003 07:16 PM |
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I would have to venture to guess that this is usually the case because the original theme of discussion was interesting and captivating.
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posted May 17, 2003 07:19 PM |
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the original theme of discussion was interesting and captivating.
Like the guess the creature game 
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Sir_Stiven
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posted May 17, 2003 07:31 PM |
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IMO this still doesnt make any sense... so you closed the threads because "it didnt look good on the pages"?
Why is that reason enough to lock a thread and get sequels all over the place?
As someone else pointed out, word games i can understand if they get closed.
But threads like temple of.... even if i wasnt a regular poster there i still think splitting it up kinda blows the whole picture of the thread away.
And i dont buy this "if these threads are really important they will be posted in anyway" stuff... because IMO its like starting it all over again.
I know for a fact that TT (Tossers Tavern) never became the same after the first closing of the thread. Was that because of the members involved did think it was less important?
no, it was because that it would be like to start a thread over again and therefor people lost interest. It had alrdy been done once, why spend the time of trying and doing it again?
I also would like it explained to me why there were no questions about these closings before they all got closed. As said earlier i dont believe in that a thread belongs to its creator, it belongs to the members that posts in it. Because once they do their opinions is also a part of the thread and therefor they should also get a saying in it. So i can understand why lord_crusader thinks the way he does even if he wasnt the one starting the thread.
IMO it would have been alot more smooth if you had asked the members posting in the threads if it was ok to close it and start a sequel before you closed em.
Anyways, this post has some questions in it and its those i would like you to "further comment" RMS.
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posted May 17, 2003 07:44 PM |
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Yes that was my argument.
I can't exatly expand on it is that was all that existed of it. Sorry if that isn't good enough for you but I'm not going to make something up just to satisfy the situation.
I'm supposed to be monitoring the threads and trying to get others interested in contributing but I can't very well do that if I am not even interested in reading them. That is not to say that there's anything wrong with what is inside, but it's getting there that's the big step. There are no new highlights of the day or summary headlines or anything. All that someone who isn't a regular contributor or even a new member will just see that it is a just some really long thread with a whole bunch of pages and a bunch of people inside talking. Generally the first few posts gives a fine overview of what the focus is, but for extended discussion they usually veer off and may even end up on something quite different from what it was originally. I may be the only one perhaps though even so, I do not have the time or desire to go through every single page and reading everything every time there is activity. It is good that it keeps up and that's a sign of the livelihood of the dicussion.
This is an opportunity for anyone that has beenor newly lured and interested in it to be able to have an easier time adjusting and entering the new unexplored territory. Things may continue as they were, and yet still leave room for a "new beginning" for a change in pace and revive the spirit of the topic itself.
It is not my intention to punish anyone for a job well done. I am just trying to do my part to clean things up and present everything as it is in the best manner possible.
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lord_crusader
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posted May 17, 2003 07:56 PM |
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All that someone who isn't a regular contributor or even a new member will just see that it is a just some really long thread with a whole bunch of pages and a bunch of people inside talking. Generally the first few posts gives a fine overview of what the focus is, but for extended discussion they usually veer off and may even end up on something quite different from what it was originally. I may be the only one perhaps though even so, I do not have the time or desire to go through every single page and reading everything every time there is activity. It is good that it keeps up and that's a sign of the livelihood of the dicussion.
I come to this place in january, and when I see that thread was easy to know what they are talking about... and if you see go to the thread and the first post are posted in July 25, 2001 11:46 PM, how a newbie can be inserted in a thread that have more than one years since the first post????
I see many newbies in this thread, and they are active contributor to the thread...
Not is a good reason...
Not a good reason...
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posted May 17, 2003 07:58 PM |
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well I agree with RMS on this one, once a thread gets so big it starts to bog down and just be a pain to keep up with.
@RMS i am behind ya buddie
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Sir_Stiven
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posted May 17, 2003 08:08 PM |
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@RMS, sorry but i still dont understand your point(s).
Even if lets say a new member wants to get involved with a thread like "please only..." he still gotta read the old thread to fully understand whats it about right?
Sure, he can always get an idea whats it about by reading the first posts... but that goes for having it at the same place too. If the n00b starts by just reading the sequel he will kinda "jump" right into the discussion and still have no clue whats been discussed...
And if a n00b finds the thread interesting im sure he will read through the pages to understand what its about. I know i have in different forums than this one when i first started out at them.
Also i would like you to please answer the questions i asked in my previous post this time, like for example why no notification of some kind were made before this closing frenzy.
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well I agree with RMS on this one, once a thread gets so big it starts to bog down and just be a pain to keep up with.
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As said before, does it matter where the posts are?
you still gotta read em right?
and if you are interested - a regular poster in those threads i have no doubt that you will keep up with em.
And for you as mods its still the same number of posts you gotta check no matter in which threads they are.
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posted May 17, 2003 08:21 PM |
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I guess when it comes down to it, I just felt like doing it because it made me feel better and that's good enough for me. It's not even like it's a permanent decision. It can be reversed, so it's not like it's the end of the world. I just don't think it's such a huge deal.
I for one would rather not have a page look like this:
This is the first thread I see ( Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100)
This is the second thread I see ( Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100)
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posted May 17, 2003 08:27 PM |
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What the Hell, do Mods plan on doing something every few months to piss people off?
I, for one, was never inundated with IMs from people saying, "Have you seen all those little numbers under the threads? They boggle my mind and mire me in a fog. I get so confused, I never can tell wich number to post in."
The F-ing numbers were a pulse on the popularity of the thread. By locking the thread you are lifting a huge middle finger to people who were actively posting in the threads. And these threads were consistently on the front page.
There are only two responces to this nonsence of "the numbers hurt my eyes"
1. You don't care.
2. You are pissed off that the mods do something stupid.
By closing the thread you kill the history of the thread, any new thread is just a pale imitation and cannot replace the original. The "naked" thread was almost two years old and had contributions from many of our great posters of the past. The "Temple" thread wasn't even 30 pages long and had a storyline that won't be continued very well. These threads weren't word games that can easily start over, they were popular places to drop a post.
Why do wet blankets feel they need to stop other's harmless fun, and one thing that these threads were was harmless.
Congratulations for pissing people off again.
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posted May 17, 2003 08:37 PM |
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Look, keep the others out of this. I acted on my own because I acted upon my own feelings and justification. I did not act on impuslse so it was not something that I just felt like doing right there and then.
Why do you believe that I would want to ruin the fun of others? I have never tried to do anything like that. If I did not care, do you really think that I would even bother to do anything? Whether you believe it or not, I have your best interests in mind, whether or not it works out. Perhaps it may have been a mistake, but it was not because of what I did in itself but the results of my actions that were not intended as they have been.
If you believe that I have given you the middle finger then fine perhaps I did. However keep in mind that I did not do it, but it was you who portrayed it as that.
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posted May 17, 2003 08:48 PM |
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I'm also behind you RMS ! 100 %
Even if others don't like that !
And I know, that you didn't want to do something wrong !
And Yes I still think, that those threads were already dead, just they were just reanimated with some fresh SPAM.
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posted May 17, 2003 08:52 PM |
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you are a mod right????
Ok, the mods are the people who answer the questions of the members, Sir_Stiven made some questions, why you can answers????
I defend my own thread... the others defend their own threads, and in my case that thread is not a word game... this thread is interesting because you can learn about the abilities of all creatures, and this come into a some of tactics, isn't only a word game... and like Sir_Stiven says, you read the posts in this threads??? no you don't you act only because you want, and you don't ask to anibody...
I agree with oldtimer, when a thread is longer is more atractive because is that is the popularity of the thread, then the people enter to the thread to know why this thread are popular...
for lich:
because your forum don't have any visit in much time don't mean that all forums must close all the good threads...
for RMS:
why you don't accept you have a mistake here???
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posted May 17, 2003 09:08 PM |
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Are you trying to avoid taking responsibility for what you have said?
I have answered the questions. Perhaps they are still not adequate enough for you, but that does not change the fact that I have answered them.
Let me sum up what I have said:
My main reason is because I felt that it it looked cluttered and I didn't want it to go on to becoming something even worse.
Then the side effects may include that which helps people be able to also join in and keep the discussion going.
You defend your thread. Ok, that is commendable. So do you except me to be any different and not even reciprocate such actions and attitude in even a vaguely similar method?
The connection to other forums does not matter. It is irrelevant. Same goes for the threads being closed because they're good.
Why do you think I or anyone else would want to close any thread just because they're good?
I will not to admit to something that is not so. You are trying to make me into something that I am not. I will not bend to your whims and do what you want. I stand behind my actions as what they were, even if I as a sane person have second thoughts about the outcome. I do not apologize for what I have not done wrong.
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