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MattII
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posted November 24, 2024 07:25 PM |
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The town with minotaurs and dragons (seriously, they're the only two constants across the four original towns) had done perfectly well without dark elves for four games, which were spread across three continents on two different worlds.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 25, 2024 08:30 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 08:31, 25 Nov 2024.
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Biggest offender to me is the dancer. I'd agree a lot more if there was only one dark elf and not two. Could be a harpy/manticore instead, and then some necessary tier reshuffling. Remaining dark elf could be made a warlock/magic user, but I guess the assassin design is passable. And then the line-up would be fixed for me.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted November 26, 2024 12:58 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 13:03, 26 Nov 2024.
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MurlocAggroB said:
I guess I just don't agree with you in any way at all, because HoMM3 looks like a cartoon to me. Like, it's got a more muted colour scheme than the other games, but it's miles from "gritty" or "realistic". I see loud, goofy, exaggerated designs for everything. I really don't think Olden Era looks significantly different to HoMM3, other than it's higher fidelity.
Interesting, that we see things so differently.
In comparison, for me, the "cartoony-goofy" looks applies much more to H5. Oh well, if the gameplay delivers, I'll end up playing the game anyway.
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 26, 2024 01:56 PM |
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MattII said:
The town with minotaurs and dragons (seriously, they're the only two constants across the four original towns) had done perfectly well without dark elves for four games, which were spread across three continents on two different worlds.
Well said. Yes, the dark elves - Dungeon association started with Ashan.
Now for Olden Era, was it really necessary to have dark elf units in the line-up? No, but I'm not against it either.
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Rimgrabber
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 26, 2024 05:19 PM |
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Stevie said:
Biggest offender to me is the dancer. I'd agree a lot more if there was only one dark elf and not two. Could be a harpy/manticore instead, and then some necessary tier reshuffling. Remaining dark elf could be made a warlock/magic user, but I guess the assassin design is passable. And then the line-up would be fixed for me.
I definitely miss the manticore. It's always been my favorite of the dungeon creatures despite only appearing in the lineup twice. Even as a Dark Elf fan, I'll agree that there's not really a need for more than one in the creature lineup. Harpies I still feel fit better in Stronghold though.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted November 26, 2024 07:26 PM |
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Edited by MattII at 19:40, 26 Nov 2024.
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Honestly, I think the bigger issue, at least for me, is not that dark elves in the lineup, but the fact that dark elves suddenly become the only race in the hero roster, compared with three races in Heroes 3, or 4(/5 if you include Gretchin) in Heroes 4. Bringing back non-dark elf heroes would IMO make the faction a lot better.
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Rimgrabber
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 26, 2024 08:18 PM |
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It looks like Medusa and Minotaur heroes will almost certainly be included based on the artwork we've seen so far. It seems like Dark Elves are taking a much less dominant role in the faction this time around.
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MurlocAggroB
Known Hero
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posted November 27, 2024 05:44 PM |
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Funnily enough, we got our first Dungeon hero reveal yesterday. It's a minotaur.
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gnollking
Supreme Hero
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posted December 13, 2024 05:07 PM |
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MurlocAggroB
Known Hero
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posted December 13, 2024 06:02 PM |
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Interesting that the dancer is MIA. I wonder if they've ditched it entirely based on feedback. I certainly wouldn't complain about getting an Evil Eye instead.
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Rimgrabber
Promising
Famous Hero
Voice in Gelu's Head
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posted December 13, 2024 08:59 PM |
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I gotta say, while I standby prefering the harpies as a Stronghold creature, I would rather have them than teleporting assassins if Dungeon is going to have a creature fill that function. Blood furies in heroes 5 were a little bit different because they were walkers and Stronghold had no harpies to fill that function, but I still wasn't really a fan of them. I think the infiltrators should be focused on getting behind enemy lines, dealing poison damage over time, taking out shooters by tunring invisible, and dealing backstab damage like the mechanic in H7. Basically have them be like the H5 stalkers. That's my only complaint though. The rest of the lineup is really cool and I think it's neat that Dungeon's gimmick this time around seems to be being able to switch between pure damage vs. area of effect attacks.
I expect some people will be upset by the purpleness of the Black Dragon but honestly, the weird galaxy winged black dragons of H6 and H7 have kind of grown on me, and this seems like a healthy middle ground. These ones are less over the top and more traditionlly draconic looking while still feeling more distinct than "generic dragon" like most (not all, but most) of the heroes 3 dragons feel.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 14, 2024 01:16 PM |
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Alright, I have my usual complains, but honestly, I can't wait to play the game 
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Etharil
Shaper of Lore
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posted December 16, 2024 06:25 AM |
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Edited by Etharil at 09:15, 18 Dec 2024.
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Maybe I should drop this here...
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 22, 2024 12:14 PM |
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Etharil said:
Maybe I should drop this here...
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TheJoker
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 15, 2025 12:06 PM |
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Edited by TheJoker at 12:07, 15 Feb 2025.
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A good summary of all Dungeon related infos we have, some of which I missed myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_uTOgpIYFE
Did anyone peep before that Dungeon heroes mount is a Gorgon?
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MurlocAggroB
Known Hero
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posted February 25, 2025 05:55 AM |
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Some more concept art of Dungeon's redesigned tier 3.
As pointed out by someone on Reddit, their outfits are inspired by armor sets from Might and Magic VIII.
Base Creature
Upgrade 1
Upgrade 2
EDIT: Made the image a little smaller.
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LordInsane
Known Hero
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posted February 25, 2025 06:08 AM |
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Hm, the base unit only really seems inspired by the colour scheme if so, otherwise it's rather removed from Regnan Leather (for one, it seems to be mail - honestly, I'm a bit surprised it's not Siertal, that'd pair with Upgrade 2's Erudine), and Upgrade 1 is pretty clearly Glomenmail, not Dark Knight Plate.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 25, 2025 12:15 PM |
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I find it much, much better than the previous ashanic version.
Thanks for posting Murloc
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Rimgrabber
Promising
Famous Hero
Voice in Gelu's Head
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posted February 26, 2025 10:25 PM |
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Definitely cool, but aren't Dark Elves in Jadame supposed to be brown rather than red? I thought the Hive heroes were red because of the Hive influence but I could be wrong, haven't played MM8.
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TrueMefista
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 26, 2025 10:57 PM |
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We can not have them be brown, people will get weird about racial coding. Orcs in Ashan were red and it was ok, now a kind of elves would be.
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