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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: UTB,ring
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Tc_Fear
Tc_Fear


Famous Hero
posted September 22, 2003 05:03 PM

UTB,ring

under the bridge
thx to camel and to zud,jinx who play/ed it
I know that noone ll play me on it anymore.but np.
Lately I really enjoy playin it.

but am new to 'ring of greater n....'

I know that magic mirrow art works
sanctuary works but can be dispeld(thx to arangar and insatiable )
what else do works with it?

ring makes game messy.and that mess in combat rocks
and underground isnt nessesery .itslows.it would be good that there would be sailorbook near town or something
I would make starting
camelholes  more even then its now- 5000 , 2000 exp,ore-wood  
anyway its cool map

help a newbie with ring

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted September 22, 2003 06:29 PM

TC_fear  You are a Msater at building a Barb with 20+ Immortalities. Congrats to you.  You have proved along with other Emperors that you can do this Barb/Immortlity rush on many many maps. Again Congrats! You are one of the Best! You hve successfully exploited the flaws in 3do's ideas of the game, and found how to exploit flaws in many maps. Again Congrats!

BUT.. SINCE you are sooo great and sooo talented in Heroes 4. Why dont you prove this greatness and all this raw talent you strut round with? Play maps like Imperial Prison or Lost in Space.  

I admit I am at best an average player.  I m happy with that.  But it is sooo sad to see you boasting of your extermination powers when you ONLY have the power to build a Barb with 20 Immortality potions and ply maps with flaws that allow such an exploitation.

I would much rather lose in Style then win with such little taste.

But again Congrats, on all your " talent" in the game. Maybe one of these days you can actually ride your bike just as fast without the training wheels.

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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted September 22, 2003 11:48 PM

arent potions of imm allowed in IP>?   i know theyre rare in LISP

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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted September 22, 2003 11:49 PM

yes week 3 and day one rush on UTB is a master piece of work really no joke its nuts
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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted September 23, 2003 01:57 AM

yes immortalities are allowed in Imperial Prison.  However the gates dont start oppening until week 7.  So by then a Barb rush can be easily defended.

Basically as I said the map was carefully thought out to prevent such cheesy tactics.  Now if Laelth would fix the unbalanced towns issue, that map would be almost Perfect!!
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Laelth
Laelth


Famous Hero
Laelth rhymes with stealth.
posted September 23, 2003 03:09 AM
Edited By: Laelth on 22 Sep 2003

I've been busy of late, but version 1.5 is in the "strategic planning" stange.  

Basically, I want to poll the experts and get a feel for what the people who play the map would like to see done with it.  For those who are familiar with it, you'll know that it's possible (but rare) for one player to have access to as many as 5 towns of the same alignment, while one could have as few as 2.  Imagine being on the 2 end of a 5-2 equation, with tons of money to build generators and buy lvl. 4 creatures.  It would suck!  That's Jinxer's objection, and I think he's right.  It needs to be corrected.

My current idea is to eliminate lvl. 4 generators in 2 unlinked towns per side.  That way, one could have at most 3 in-town lvl. 4 generators but no fewer than 2.  This would reduce the luck factor of the map as a whole.  As many of you know, I believe in letting some luck influence the outcomes of games, but on a long map like IP, that luck factor needs to be minimized due to the extreme investment of time necessary to complete the map.

Comments on this proposal?

-Laelth


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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted September 23, 2003 03:40 AM

and anyway

i think 20 imm potion + combat hero rush can be stopped on utb... just my opinion.  i think you should try to find the best way to stop it, jinx .  it will be a victory for you over rushing

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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted September 23, 2003 03:53 AM

great idea laelth, just remove level 4 from unlinked towns, but for your information, i couldn't fully build 3 towns ... money generators aplenty, but skills cost awfully much, and level 4's cost so... not that much money to spend, in my experience
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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted September 23, 2003 05:08 AM

Valky the mere fact that Zud had 50 FireBirds is proof enough that it is possible

Zud is the Jedi Master. So ofcourse Valky you are not able to use the force as Jedi Zud does.

However, even the lowely Jinxer has managed to build 3 chaos towns on IP. And if I can do it then ANYONE can do it lol.

Jinxer
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted September 23, 2003 05:22 AM

the MVP award has been given to Targan, congratulations, but let's not forget the MWP award & that goes to ... yes you all know him folks, he comes in gs, you mistake him for a girl everytime, he finds flaws in units/spells/maps, he even found a flaw in zud, if that's even possible ...
He is ... ...  J_NX_R !

would you like to buy a vowel ?
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted September 23, 2003 06:16 AM

i want to buy a U

btw valk/zud/insa/ballslave/anyone else i sent map to... if you want new map to be available by round 2 caesar... you better playtest it
you snow at me to make another map then when i make, you ignore me

ye bassterrds

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Tc_Fear
Tc_Fear


Famous Hero
posted September 23, 2003 09:27 AM

Quote:
TC_fear You are a Msater at building a Barb with 20+ Immortalities. Congrats to you. You have proved along with other Emperors that you can do this Barb/Immortlity rush on many many maps. Again Congrats! You are one of the Best! You hve successfully exploited the flaws in 3do's ideas of the game, and found how to exploit flaws in many maps. Again Congrats!



let me I ll explain....
1 barb or archer is usefull at start.u can take chest on exp.fight utopia.and u donot loose a day building
2 send barbar can only mess good players plans.
3 am makein not only barb/archer.I have also some  mages,tacktic waitin for 4 lvl to raise . and preparing for second attack if needed.

here u go my tacktics revealed....it should be easy for ya now


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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted September 23, 2003 05:48 PM

Quote:
he even found a flaw in zud, if that's even possible ...




Valky you are starting to make me think you are on drugs!? Please point out which part of my post said anything about Zud having Flaws? If nothing else I said he was perfect lol.  Jedi Master = NO Flaws.

So cut back on the booze and drugs and come back to reality.

I am also seeing a pattern.  ANytime someone points outs Valkys flaws he seems to fire back with a tacky off the wall comback trying to take the focus off himself.  hmmm

Jinxer
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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted September 23, 2003 09:06 PM

playtest..bliach
shall we wear the playtester uniform and hat while at it!?

release the damn thing, i play it with all its bugs and tell you.
like under the bug , deep bug -remember? you grown sensitive suddenly?

hang one_hot_bug on the wall
we like bugs
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the_teacher
the_teacher


Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
posted September 23, 2003 11:04 PM

Quote:
playtest..bliach
shall we wear the playtester uniform and hat while at it!?

release the damn thing, i play it with all its bugs and tell you.
like under the bug , deep bug -remember? you grown sensitive suddenly?

hang one_hot_bug on the wall
we like bugs



Fortunatelly there are flawless romanian maps to compensate the others  .

for those who suddenly are turning red, i have to be more specific telling them i'm just kidding

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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted September 24, 2003 01:22 AM

hmm...

zud says file i sent you is bad... if you werent gonna test then maybe it is for best that is bad, so you get full surprise when you see it after d/ling from toh mapspage

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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted September 24, 2003 07:51 AM
Edited By: Blue_Camel on 24 Sep 2003

Quote:
playtest..bliach
shall we wear the playtester uniform and hat while at it!?

release the damn thing, i play it with all its bugs and tell you.
like under the bug , deep bug -remember? you grown sensitive suddenly?

hang one_hot_bug on the wall
we like bugs


ok just sent the finished (heh..) map to ves along with utb update to stop the whining (justified as it may be)

this same mail you and a few other lucky winners also received in your inbox  so stop yer b i t c h i n

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Tc_Fear
Tc_Fear


Famous Hero
posted September 24, 2003 09:38 AM

what changes were made in utb?

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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted September 24, 2003 05:35 PM

hmmm, there is something in my junk mail folder ... wonder what that can be
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted September 25, 2003 01:28 AM

i changed hydras to random L4 creature instead.. figured hydras was lil too easy  couple other minor things.

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