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bort
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posted November 10, 2003 03:38 PM

I must say Peacemaker, the level of maturity you showed in making this thread is notable.
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Peacemaker
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Peacemaker = double entendre
posted November 10, 2003 04:00 PM - penalty applied.
Edited By: Peacemaker on 18 Nov 2003

Last Straw

Alright.  Enough.

This thing may go down but not without a fight.

Stiven, you have just made the mistake of finally, finally enraging me beyond the point of any semblance of grace.  Congratulations.  But I don't think you're going to be quite as happy about that as you might think.

You have crossed my line one too may times.  Now I've had it with you.  You will NOT call Romana a liar without truly imspiring more ire in me than you can possibly imagine.  HOW DARE YOU TRY  AND BLAME SOMEONE ELSE WHO IS UTTERLY INNOCENT FOR SOMETHING YOU SO CLEARLY BROUGHT ON YOURSELF????????????????? My Gaughd what kind of shallow, selfish creature utterly lacking in any sense of honor or decency are you anyways????????????

In fact, guess what???? I complained to her about you on an off for months, and SHE NEVER SAID A WORD TO ME.  So shut the snow up about other people passing judgment on you all the time Stiven, because once again, it's just one of your many, many high points of hypocricy.  Romana has a thing or two to teach you, however apparently.

I say again.  She had NOTHING -- get it -- NOTHING to do with this.  You are a prick. You are a bully.  You are like one of those annoying little splinters in the tip of your finger that irritates and irritates and irritates and you can't seem to ever get rid of it until finally it gets infected and you have to cut it out.

Well, you just got infected on me buddy.  The ONLY times I have EVER responded to you in an unfriendly fashion are when you have just insidiously attacked, pounced on or insulted someone else while they were minding their own business.  

Don't give me that innocent little line of bull$hit about how sorry you are that you didn't know your comments were hurtful.  How utterly stupid and gullible do you think we are??????????????????

You will NOT turn that around on me or anyone else while I am paying attention, and anyone who is paying attention can see that's NOT what I am doing.  But you will also NOT continue being a prick to me and others with impunity as long as I'm around.  Go ahead.  Exercise your rights to free expression.  I have EVERY intention of continuing to do the same.

If you do NOT want me to come after you then LEAVE ME AND MY FRIENDS ALONE.  I will not tolerate it.  They may be big enough to ignore you, but I'M NOT.  So you can just expect it to get worse and worse.  If you don't like this kind of attention then STOP IT NOW.  You're in control here you little prick.  I WILL NOT BACK DOWN ON YOU and continue to let you walk all over people.  So it's UP TO YOU.

People are sick of your snow.  Get IT?????  WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK PEOPLE START THREADS ABOUT YOU LIKE THIS YOU IDIOT????  

Don't you get it???? The majority of people around can't stand you because of the way you treat them!!! YOU BRING THIS ON YOURSELF.  SO QUIT YOUR INCESSANT, DEFENSIVE WHINING.

P.S. I STILL don't know what the hell you guys are talking about with you and Romana and you or anbody else that doesn't believe that <EDITED BY PEACE -- SORRY GUYS -- THIS PART WAS OVER THE TOP EVEN FOR THISPOST.>  The fact that apparently you have had this same problem with other people without my even knowing about it JUST CONFIRMS MY REACTION TO YOUR PERSISTENTLY RUDE, FOUL TREATMENT OF OTHERS THAT I HAVE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED MYSELF.

Ahem.  My apologies to everyone else for my outburst.


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bort
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posted November 10, 2003 04:23 PM

Let me guess, she's going to get a QP for that, too?

Peacemaker, grow up.  This isn't 7th grade.
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posted November 10, 2003 04:24 PM

hmmm

well if even my sincere apologies is interpeted as insults to you im afraid there is not much i can do. Not that it matters now but i actually thought of you as kinda cute, which you easily could have learned if you had asked me about it instead of getting your ideas of me from elsewhere.

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People are sick of your ****. Get IT????? WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK PEOPLE START THREADS ABOUT YOU LIKE THIS YOU IDIOT????

well if you must know this is the second thread "like this" about me..you wanna know who made the other? Romana...

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If you do NOT want me to come after you then LEAVE ME AND MY FRIENDS ALONE. I will not tolerate it.
yes, thats what ive been doing all along lately until threads like this appears...

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Don't you get it???? The majority of people around can't stand you because of the way you treat them!!! YOU BRING THIS ON YOURSELF. SO QUIT YOUR INCESSANT, DEFENSIVE WHINING.

"Majority"?

Please stop judging without knowing the facts. You think the majority of members here cant stand me? that doesnt go along very well with the fact that ive gotten awards for funniest/best poster does it? I respect the fact that you afterall is quite new here, but please dont make these assumptions whatever you now base em on...

However im sorry you feel this way and express yourself like you have. As i understand we have no chance of solving this misunderstanding now maybe someone should put an end to this thread.

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Peacemaker
Peacemaker


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Peacemaker = double entendre
posted November 10, 2003 04:34 PM
Edited By: Peacemaker on 10 Nov 2003

(Breaking rage character for a minute)

It occurs to me that a true Heyoka lesson is being had here, and the joke is on me....

Well well.  Congratulations Stiven!!!!!

P.S. Perhaps this isn't the seventh grade, bort. Perhaps it is more like the third grade.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted November 10, 2003 05:12 PM

Now this is the 2nd time you try and judge me in this thread with your holier than thou attitude bjorn. I thought we had understood each other after last post when i sent you an IM and you apologized in this thread..obviously not.

At first now i was gonna toss you back..but no. It isnt worth it. Lets just stop the fighting instead.

But please, you dont know me. So therefor please stop and try and judge and tell me "who i am" all the time. At first it was amusing but now its getting alittle too much. You are more then free to have your opinions about me, just dont judge me on them because they are usually wrong as have been proven here.

I would like to see some of these "attacks" im supposed to make all the time though. For example pacemaker has now attacked me in 3 threads (just saw a new one in truth thread) because of a misunderstanding i could have told her right away if she had ask. But i reviewed what she could have possibly taken offense of and i brought it up here and apologized for the misunderstanding.

But it seems ok then for pacemaker to make these posts/thread which solely purpose is to mock me, and then you can put more fuel on it and launch more attacks and when i then say something to defend myself im the attacker?

It hasnt struck you that without these posts/threads of yours there would be no reason for me to be so "defensive"?

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posted November 10, 2003 05:44 PM

Have you considered getting her name wrong constantly may be considered unhelpful stiven? After all it's not hard to spell, repeat after me...

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You miss an "E" after the "P" methinks
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Peacemaker
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Peacemaker = double entendre
posted November 10, 2003 06:04 PM
Edited By: Peacemaker on 10 Nov 2003

But I'm sure he did not mean it in a hurtful way, PH...  Of course, you know that about Stiven.  He never means to be hurtful and I'm sure he's geniunely sorry if I took it that way.


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posted November 10, 2003 06:09 PM
Edited By: Peacemaker on 10 Nov 2003

Hey!!!! I got a -qp!!!!  

Way to go Stiven! You did it buddy!!!

LOL -- Now my hat's really off to you.  Only you, my friend, only you.  Once again, congratulations.



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posted November 10, 2003 07:04 PM

manitu dislike rude persons

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Hey!!!! I got a -qp!!!!  

Way to go Stiven! You did it buddy!!!

LOL -- Now my hat's really off to you.  Only you, my friend, only you.  Once again, congratulations.





i cant believe the transformation of a lady to a spammer ... peacemaker, after some of your good posts your rude comments destroyed all your quality in this forum, i think its time to leave before you becomes jokesubject between members... or you can simply apologice from the person you used rude comments, its more civilized that way

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posted November 10, 2003 07:09 PM

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Hey!!!! I got a -qp!!!!  

Way to go Stiven! You did it buddy!!!



Stiven did it?  So you're saying he figured out your password and made that post of yours?  Seems to me that there was one person who made a thread to mock somebody else.  There was one person who made one of the most viciously attacking posts I've seen here since I've joined.  It wasn't stiven.  Credit where credit is due.
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posted November 10, 2003 07:11 PM
Edited By: Peacemaker on 10 Nov 2003

No no Hamsi (and bort), I really mean it.  Fact is, I lost my temper there darlin.  It's done.  Now let the post stand as an example of how not to behave.

Perhaps it all worked out, exactly the way it was supposed to, and I have truly learned a Heyoka lesson here.

P.S. bort, Stiven got my password alright, but it was to some buttons of mine that apparently needed to be pushed, again to show me something about myself that I need to examine.  That's what I meant.  I take full credit for my own bad reaction.
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posted November 10, 2003 08:11 PM

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I thought we had understood each other after last post when i sent you an IM and you apologized in this threadquote]

oh Im sorry.. I didnt mean it like that. If I hurt your feelings Im geuinely sorry  now lets all forget our trouble with a big bowl of strawberry icecream

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posted November 10, 2003 10:12 PM bonus applied.



@Peacemaker

First and for all I want to thank you for your kind words  Honestly they made me blush when I read, I don't think I deserve that much credit but I am honored you think of me in such a nice way  I am a pacifist, trying to find balance in life.  Sometimes though I fail, or estimate the effects of my actions wrongly, I'm only human and far from perfect.  Yesterday it seems I have made a mistake.  Actually it is me who owes you an apology.

In all of the things I've read by your hand I have always seen reason and a good heart  Back when I was still a moderator of the other side of the monitor forum you were among my favorite posters, I made the choice not to distribute quality points on the forum, but that doesn't mean I appreciated your input any less  That counts for any of the regulars at the other side forum...  I have always read your posts with great interest and though your views on some things are different than mine, just as I appreciated all posters with different opinions, I have always thought of your opinions of being very valuable.  With my post I was not pointing at you peacemaker, you did not start this, nor did you bring it back to the surface, it already had, you just picked up a loaded gun without knowing it was loaded, presenting it to people who can do harm with it.  You could not have known and personally I'm afraid my post has not exactly made things better :/ no blame comes to you peacemaker, I think I know you enough to tell you would never post anything with bad intentions just like that.

It is good to see you take this situation as a heyoka trick but peacemaker... you have the right to be mad at people.  People we allow close, people we open up to, people we call friends are the ones who unfortunately can hurt us the most.  Letting people into your life or showing them more of your inner self opens doors to great friendships, at the same time this leaves us very vulnerable.  Should we lock ourselves up and become hermits, or try to keep a safe amount of distance between us and everyone else?  Will prevent us from being harmed, true, but imo that's missing out on so much.  There are a handful of people in this world who are so close to me they can hurt me in the deepest of my heart, but I love them so much I would never want to run away, I'm not afraid, I thrust them with my life and if they ever hurt me, they would never do so deliberately I simply know... and that's okay

Just want to pick in on something you said before I continue  Being old is a state of mind peacemaker.  I know some parts of me will never grow up, and I'm glad about that  Other parts, through some things I've been through are older now, seeming alien or weird perhaps to some people, but age is how you feel, it shouldn't be what other people make you feel  Insecurity about looks is something I have experienced in the past too, but actually think everyone is beautifully unique in a way

I don't know how close you are with Stiven, nor in which way he has hurt you, but he has clearly damaged the thrust you had in him :/  I am certain you are not exaggerating as I don't think you are the person who would do such a thing.  Stefan can be hard in what he says sometimes, very hard at times, towards me though he has never acted in a hostile way.  Sure there have been a few conflicts in the past our opinions being as opposing as possible at some times but through talking and discussing things have never got truly hostile  Being rediculized in public can be really painful, and of course you have the right to speak up or to open a discussion peacemaker, I hope I didn't make it seem like you didn't have that right.  Please don't delete this thread, it's always better to talk about things than to be silent and let things brood.  Damn scary to see you lose your temper there though, all I can say is try to communicate about it or, if too many bad words have been spoken just give it time and peace, time heals.  Just realize this is a volatile subject for many members and be careful.


@Nebuka

Heyas Nice to see you too nebs!  How's things on the zone, still playing good?  Bet you could beat me blindfolded these days hehe, I've grown very rusty.  Still festing too at times?  Defeated the king yet?


@Stefan

It's good to see you again too  Wish it had been in better circumstances though :/ hope this doesn't turn into another mosh pit :/

I'm not coming back though, not as mod, nor as regular member  I just drop by occasionally, may continue to do so forever who knows  I will never forget this messageboard though, it is precious to me, more than you know


@Romana

I am sorry for mentioning your name in this thread, apparently what peacemaker opened this discussion about is not connected to any past events.  I have made a mistake by posting in this thread, have read a couple of other threads mentioning yous not long ago and thought things were slowly turning back to how they were about a year ago :/


~Niddy out~

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posted November 10, 2003 10:49 PM

i just stumbled upon this thread

 and what a toss...from everyone.


good to see stiven get some seeing as he dishes it out pretty often ( although i must commend him on being much better as of late)

peacemaker,your thread was brilliant,until you lost it. perhaps in the future you will learn further the art of the toss
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posted November 10, 2003 11:49 PM

I was thinking all this morning about the chat I had with some one & how it's all my fault & she did nothing wrong.

As far as I am concerned I didnt do a thang & I am the one who got blamed for everythang.
She on never says a word & sure she prefers that.
Yelled & blamed me for having an opinion about a person in here.
Always mocked my ways cause I do it dif like buying & recieving gifts on a birthday which like some sin or somethang.
Many friends told me that if you cant take a joke then thier not your real friends & it does not take a rocket scientist to know I meant only 2 people in here with that remark.
Who the heck ya think they were talking about above me.

As far as I am concerned you should apologise to me,.
I always been there & I was always a friend to both of yalls.
Is that it cause someone is totally diferent thier bad guys.
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posted November 11, 2003 12:47 AM
Edited By: Peacemaker on 10 Nov 2003

Well darn.  I am in tears and wasted a perfectly good post by hitting the wrong button!!!  LOL!!!

If this blinkin' thread has served no other purpose than to get a couple of these fine posts that set examples for all of us -- but especially me -- then it was worth it after all.

Nidhgrin, you really have moved me to tears.  You are such a kind soul.  Both your posts just give examples of how true that is.  We know your mistake was innocent my friend.  Your intentions were completely honorable as they always are.  I just got so upset when Stiven used that innocent mistake against another completely innocent person in this like some sort of weapon that I just lost it.  It's no excuse, but it is the reason.

Private Hudson, thank you for so gently telling the truth about me in your post.  You told it like it is, and were completely right about my mistakes as well as my intent.

These were beautiful posts, gentlemen.  Thank you for showing us how it is to be done.

I am feeling very, very fortunate right now.  I am humbled.  I am sorry to all of you for so badly losing my temper and now ask your forgiveness.


P.S. Nidhgrin, I hope you are right about me having a good heart.  I typically like to think so, to believe that about myself.  But after this little experience here, perhaps I'm not so sure anymore.... Perhaps this is something else I need to examine.  I mean, I got so angry I suppose I even scared me a little!!!!

P.P.S.  One more thing Nidhgrin -- Your absence will be a great loss to this forum.  Please don't stay away for ever my friend.

<EDIT>

One more thing  still -- In all fairness I want it clear (going back and reading your post again Nidhgrin) that Stiven has not done me the injustice of acting like a friend and then betraying me, in any way.  With, one execption, I think (Stiven you can correct me if I'm wrong) he and I have only communicated on the side in one very short IM I sent to him.  So no, he has never portrayed anything, nor I to him, other than what can be viewed here in HC forum.  And of those encounters, I have taken them too hard.  I am much too overly-protective of people I consider friends.  I always have been.  That becomes increasingly clear to me as we proceed.  Not to diminish the message, though, that people can be hurt by your words if they are cruel, even if you don't know the people in question.  Not knowing somebody should never be used as an excuse to say hurtful things, then play innocent by saying "you can't pass judgement on me you don't know me" when the people about whom you say them (or somebody else) stands up to the hurtful comment.

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bjorn190
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posted November 11, 2003 01:41 AM

AWwww.. thats so sweet!

If I was a mod Id say: +QPs for everyone!!!

YAAAY!! lol

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posted November 11, 2003 02:07 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 10 Nov 2003

In reguards to Sir_Stiven.
All in alll he's ok. He shows resembalence to a bad thing sometimes.
In a thread about something, he will sometimes post something cynical. He dosnt revert to making fun of spelling (that i remember) but his negative nagging is annoying.

His "all my stuff is quality" is funny, and not really a part of his cynicalisim. Just mixed in sometimes.  

Go munch on dry toast somewhere else. Although I have to say SS, your 40 or so most recent posts arent just an offtopic attack to someone. Very good

Your ok in my book, just not your seldom posts that are nothing but a tos or Tos basher (i dislike that word it means what dose it mean exactly its highly used)


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Peacemaker
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Peacemaker = double entendre
posted November 11, 2003 02:21 AM
Edited By: Peacemaker on 10 Nov 2003

Bjorn, I should have said something to you as well.  Thanks for some very witty stuff there.  You probably got the Heyoka slant of this better than everyone --

But please!  All of you!  In case the urge hits, I really didn't mean for everyone to start Heyoka'ing one another!!!

LOL

(It just gets too confusing when that happens.)

With a gentle reminder to all of us about how we can all make our little mistakes and show our nature, our weaknesses and our hurts.  But most of all, that reminder in this thread is to me.)
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