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posted February 12, 2004 05:12 AM |
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What a Brilliant Plan!
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posted February 13, 2004 02:33 AM |
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Edited By: bort on 12 Feb 2004
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Makes ya think, huh?
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posted February 13, 2004 02:35 AM |
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Does Peacemaker need to give you a history lesson? Choice B is obviously the better choice...
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posted February 13, 2004 02:41 AM |
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Fine, fine, I'll take down the first one. You're right, though, in terms of unnecessary, unjustified deaths caused, GWB is much closer to Andy Jackson than Kerry is. I just thought it was somewhat striking. GW and the Chimpanzee stays, though.
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posted February 13, 2004 02:47 AM |
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That's an incredibly rediculous, and somewhat childish argument.
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posted February 13, 2004 02:56 AM |
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Why? His justification was WMD. That's what he sent Powell to the UN to claim. That's what he harped on in his State of the Union (last year that is, this year his biggest concerns are apparently the idea that homosexuals might love one another and that baseball players are taking steroids). The kindest interpretation is that he is guilty of willful ignorance. The other alternative is that he outright lied. He sent people to their deaths on what he knew was false. I fail to see what is childish about being angry that he sacrificed so many lives for political gain.
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posted February 13, 2004 03:17 AM |
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What does that have to do with a chimp and Andrew Jackson? Bush hasn't done things like Jackson did. Jackson led millions of people to their deaths, Bush took out a corrupt and evil regime. Not the same.
And critisizing on looks is rediculous anyway. I don't do it because it's childish. I guess you just read way too far into what I said in my last post.
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posted February 13, 2004 09:43 AM |
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5 bucks says if you remove the president, replace his pic with Clinton's, add lipstick to the chimp and some stupid Lewinsky caption as well, Wolfman would be printing it out on his comp and bringing it to the show-and-tell part of the next Young Republican's meeting he goes to.
And in case you were wondering what I meant by 'chicken little' republican, it's no wonder you never saw it before. I coined it myself.
It means the kinds of republicans who watch filth like O'Reilly and that knucklehead Scarborough and cry out 'the sky is falling!'
If you disagree with my all-too-accurate appraisal of your politics Wolfman, I only need to bring up your drawing a parallel between the U.S. and Rome.
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posted February 13, 2004 10:01 AM |
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I believe my signature speaks for itself in regards to that last post...
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posted February 13, 2004 07:31 PM |
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Hey, hey --
What did I miss up top here ?!?!?!?
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posted February 13, 2004 08:19 PM |
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posted February 13, 2004 08:27 PM |
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Bort, your analysis of the candidates is amusing, but reminds me of that one about Churchill and Hitler that paints Hitler in a much better light... Not that Bush is good as such, but I know little of the other guy, and your analysis reminds me of it 
Wolf: I believe that Gootch is trying to say that you're the kind of person who sees the end of the world/US in almost everything, and especially any form of Liberal ideal His justification for this being in part the Rome-US thread you created. On that basis he does indeed have quite a point
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posted February 13, 2004 09:12 PM |
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From a post by The Gootch made June 18, 2003, Tell the Truth Thread...
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When I crack jokes, I try not to do it at the expense of others...
(Well, usually this is true...)
So nice to see you posting again, friend..... 
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posted February 13, 2004 10:07 PM |
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fear not my friends, i shall be thy president
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posted February 13, 2004 10:08 PM |
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That's an incredibly rediculous, and somewhat childish argument.
I agree with Wolfman on this, both for your comparison of Bush and a chimp and of the bomb and the desert. It's amazing how much of a slap-fest this post has become against Bush, and I don't see how criticizing one person for a recovering economy and the downfalls of a government he does not completely control, not to mention other countries' involvements with the faulty intelligence concerning the WMDs in Iraq.
But I'm sure you already knew that, you're an intelligent person, bort, I can tell. Why, then, do you feel the need to criticize Bush so much for tackling some of the difficult issues that Clinton avoided to preserve his image? The slow economy over the past two years can't be blamed on Bush any more than the "roaring" economy can be attributed to any of the presidents who were in office in the 20s. What has he done so wrong that merits him this kind of defamation?
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posted February 14, 2004 05:15 AM |
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Politics to me are no joking matter. You can't get more down and dirty than it. The republicans are famous for their mud-slinging and democrats are famous for taking it on the chin.
I've found that when you push them just as hard back, they fall over.
Peacemaker, I've always thought you've given Wolfman too much credit. Where you saw a sharp political mind, I saw a kid spewing the party line. Where you've seen talent that should be nurtured, I've seen an Alex Keaton who needs a throttling.
And Bort, allow me to start this one off.
Here is a short list Shadowcaster, of why I'm voting for the other guy.
--a tax cut that sent me a worthless $600 over a period of two years and singlehandedly destroyed the fiscal sanity that Clinton brought to the presidency.
--2.9 million jobs in manufacturing lost and not even a mention of it. Shame on both sides.
--Dire warnings of WMDs were made in last year's state of the union. This year, it became "Dozens of weapons of mass destruction related program activities."
--Going to war on bad intel? Give me a break. The republicans wanted Saddam ousted for years...drew up plans for our invasion...and used September 11 as the excuse to go after Iraq.
--We broke international law going into Iraq.
--Halliburton builds prisons in Guantanamo--without any competing bid. Halliburton gets the contract to rebuild Iraqi oil fields...without any bid. Guess who our veep is connected to?
--Enemy combatants...our new way to deny our prisoners of war their rights as POWs.
--John Ashcroft
--The Patriot Act
This administration has brought new meaning to the word sleaze. I look at my hands. These hands used to be clean. Now they're sullied. And the only way to wash them is to prevent another 4 years of this.
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posted February 14, 2004 11:00 PM |
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The republicans are famous for their mud-slinging and democrats are famous for taking it on the chin.
That is a very ignorant generalization; politics on both sides of the spectrum is a dirty game of mud slinging. Certain people on both sides “take it on the chin”, and it’s sure not the democrats in general taking all of it.
I’ve seen some vicious attacks done by democrats and republicans alike.
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--Going to war on bad intel? Give me a break. The republicans wanted Saddam ousted for years...drew up plans for our invasion...and used September 11 as the excuse to go after Iraq.
The Republicans wanted him out? Anyone with at least half a brain would want him out! He murdered his own people. He had, made, used WMD’s, on his own people no less. He has shown he is not afraid to invade his neighbors, or launch a volley of SCUDs at one of their major cities.
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--We broke international law going into Iraq.
Which law was that? The law protecting evil monstrous dictators? I guess UN resolutions don’t mean anything anymore… 1441, what does “serious consequences mean then? A stern talking to?
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--Enemy combatants...our new way to deny our prisoners of war their rights as POWs.
Like the US solider that has been leaking troop movements to the insurgent fighters? He doesn’t deserve his rights anymore. He gave them up as soon as he started shooting his mouth off to the enemy. I don’t know why he is even alive anymore.
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This administration has brought new meaning to the word sleaze.
What did the previous administration bring to the word then?
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posted February 16, 2004 05:56 PM |
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(Begins wildly pacing back and forth between The Gootch and Wolfman, panting, whining, barking at both, jumping up and down, then whining some more...)
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Hey wait a minute. Who the hell is Alex Keaton????
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(Returns to wildly pacing back and forth, panting, whining, barking at both, jumping up and down...)
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posted February 16, 2004 07:44 PM |
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Alex Keaton
Yeah Peacemaker,
Alex Keaton is a fictional character from an old 80's t.v. show called, "Family Ties". The character was played by none other than, Michael J. Fox. Yeah, I think the reference to Alex Keaton is to associate a certain level of detachment from reality with a focus on political views(as did the character). Alex was usually criticized for being too smart for his own good. He was arrogant due to his superior academic achievments. He would often find himself the victim of his own schemes. He would candidly put down his two sisters as he considered them to be of lower intelligence(to which this was disproven by the younger of the two). Also, as I recall, Keaton's favorite president was Nixon. It's an insult to be related to Keaton because this is a character considered to be out-of-touch with mainstream american politics and average middle-class people. I'm not sure which definition The_Gootch was going for but it is definately not a compliment.
Personally, I disagree because Wolfman has a much better attitude towards people than does this character. I think Wolfman has a great deal more manners in his posts when dealing with other members. I have never seen him belittling anyone nor have I seen him show an interest in Nixon. The anology seems to be part of an ill-defined miniscule vocabulary, to which the end purpose was neither beneficial nor explanatory to the rest of the members reading the post.
Yes, in a word, I basically said that The_Gootch seems to be a citizen of his own little world where they make up their own little definitions to insult other people. I guess it was funny to the only person who could understand it. I, however, was not amused.
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posted February 16, 2004 08:59 PM |
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Consis: Ohhh, yes. Alex Keaton. How could I have forgotten. Moreover, how could you guys remember? That show was an awfully long time ago.
As far as people living in their own little worlds, I'm frankly starting to get fed up with several of you for failing to realize that we all do that. Pointing fingers at one another points out nothing more than our own lack of self-awareness. There are reasonable arguments to be made on both ends of the political spectrum, notwithstanding extremest lunatic fringe elements at both ends. Just because an argument comes from the other end does not make it any more myopic than one's own arguments. But to continually harangue one another with ad hominum attacks only drives people at both ends further apart, polarizing and subjectivizing sometimes important, salient points of view. This only fosters our mutually exclusive emotional myopia (it does not diminish it) and serves utterly no purpose whatsoever save to poison our thinking with the prejudice of party hatred.
BTW: For those of you who wondered why I suddenly broke into confused, distressed canine-type behavior last post, you can catch the full story behind it on page 77 of Attack Iraq (December 14 post).
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