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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted June 30, 2004 04:59 AM |
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For the People or only for the mods.
As you know I am a one man person in my group so this is how I feel because i think the others are afraid to stand up to you.
I will.
I think A mod in particular is abusing his powers in the Tavern.
Is this HC for everyone or is it only for the mods who act like the police who runs every place like a prison.
He thinks because he dont like somethang in particular, then that means everyone else is supposed to agree with him.
I dont know if he gave all those QP to win thier favors like Stiven & Dingo etc but I think he is totally abusing his powers in the tavern.
Of course I am only one person expressing this.
No one will back me up even tho I am right because they either got QP or thier too scared.
Hes doing a good job on the Bard why cant we let someone new become the tavern mod.
Hes too controlling,he does stuff on his own without any care of how others feel,hes power hungry & abusing his powers by my wxamples.
He also plays favortism.
This is not an attack,this is how I feel & as I said I am the only one even tho I get many IM of others expressing the same thang.
Unfortunately I am the only one with the guts to say it.
It would be so much easiar if he did not run the Tavern anymore.
The Tavern was fine for yrs rarely any spam or tosses & it was peaceful until he took the job & started taking thangs in his own hands without any care of who or what it hurts.
Remember this is not an attack at all but an expression.
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gorman
Promising
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Been around since before 2003
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posted June 30, 2004 05:09 AM |
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No guts no glory?
I believe many will soon know who this "mystery" Mod is. However, I don't see how it was right for this mod to delete some posts in a thread, if he had contacted the Admin and gotten his permission to do so then I would see no problem. But just deleting posts is wrong in some ways. Some ppl have their different views as to what is funny and what isn't. And I can agree that this Mod does do a splendid job in the Glayde. I wonder, if it were possible for this mod to return the posts in the thread so as to keep Mr. Aculias happy however. I'm sure there are others like Aculias who enjoyed the humor in some of the deleted posts, even if our "mystery" mod did not.
Onto a new topic however, since the departure of Lich_King and RMS, will there be new Mods? If so, who? And what forums will they Mod? Would the Tavern be one or not? Has anyone any idea????
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted June 30, 2004 05:09 AM |
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redsox isnt mature...
he wrote :
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'' i am deleting every post that I think isn't funny. This may include a few of the funny tossers they can't be funny all the time. I apologize if I accidentally delete something good, but when you are hitting the delete button this many times...
Anyways, I'm trying to set the tone for how the thread should look, which is funny.
Edit: Okay, just deleted like two pages. Now we have close to a page of funny stuff. This post will be deleted in a couple days.''
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it is loser way to abuse power... baah who cares they deleted tavern before :=)
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted June 30, 2004 05:15 AM |
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of course but the point of anyplace not just in there Hamsi lol.
Reread the reply you copied there.
Read how he put his words.
Thats not proof enough then I dont know what is lol.
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Dingo
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Legendary Hero
God of Dark SPAM
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posted June 30, 2004 05:31 AM |
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Those posts that were deleted in TosserTavern, were SPAM. RSF deleted them because they were SPAM.
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Consis
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
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posted June 30, 2004 07:44 AM |
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Hmm,
These are very serious accusations indeed. In light of the evidence hamsi128 has provided, I would tend to agree with both he and Aculias but we haven't heard from RedSoxFan3 yet. I would most certainly like to hear what he has to say in his defense. Otherwise the very small amount of evidence provided seems quite damning.
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Roses Are Red And So Am I
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted June 30, 2004 08:35 AM |
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You know i am not the only one Consis.
Theres even mods that didnt think what he did was right.
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RedSoxFan3
Admirable
Legendary Hero
Fan of Red Sox
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posted June 30, 2004 08:47 AM |
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Okay let's get things clear. First off I receive several complaints from numerous members about the spam in Tossers Tavern and how it's killing the thread. I've been receiving complaints for a very long time. So sitting by and doing nothing is probably worse than cleaning out some boring posts that are off-topic. I am tired of being criticized for DOING MY JOB. I don't wanna hear this stuff about abusing power, because it's not the case.
Everything I do. All the things I do are for the community. And when I try to improve things around here, all I get are complaints. I try to collect feedback from the community on what the community wants. I still don't get feedback. I get slandered with accusations of abuse of power and not caring about anything. You treat me like I'm the enemy simply because I'm an authorative figure. I applied to become a moderator to help the community. To improve things around here. To make a difference. And every effort I make, every action I take to meet the complaints of the community I get bashed with name-calling. I'm seriously considering to request my removal from Tavern as moderator. I will continue do this whether I am a moderator or if I am not a moderator. I will do whatever I think is best for the community. And what I think is the worst thing I can do is sit around and do nothing when I see huge problems such as the spam in Tossers Tavern. This thread used to be of such a caliber that I would die laughing. It was more than QP worthy. Now I view the recent posts as something that belongs in wastelands. That is why I took action. Now you might say that I should have thought what the community thinks about this issue, well everytime I do that I get maybe one person at the most who gives helpful feedback. The rest of the replies are accusations and attacks at myself.
As a final note, I just thought that I should try to prove to you that I am not abusing my powers and that all actions I make are efforts to improve HC as best as I see fit. This is the way I felt when I first joined and is the way I continue to feel to this day. I think that the community needs to do a little rethinking with how they feel about Heroes Community. I consider this place to be ours, whereas I think that some people think of it more as their own and that if people truly thought of it as our forum, than I would see more efforts to improve this place. I'm just very disappointed. I honestly thought I could make a difference.
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Dingo
Responsible
Legendary Hero
God of Dark SPAM
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posted June 30, 2004 09:00 AM |
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I'm seriously considering to request my removal from Tavern as moderator.
Who will Moderate the Tavern? It needs some MODing. It's already filled with SPAM.
RSF - is the only MOD I've seen take action. He deletes SPAM, asks for feedback, and keeps the tavern going.
Lith - He posts about once a month. Barely shows any activity. He doesn't seem to be doing his job.
Hexa - Also has shown little activity.
KittenAngel - Well her being a MOD is a joke.
RSF actually MODs the Tavern. The posts he deleted in TT were SPAM.
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RedSoxFan3
Admirable
Legendary Hero
Fan of Red Sox
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posted June 30, 2004 09:03 AM |
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Actually I've made my decision. I shouldn't be crying over some website that's not even a part of my RL. I resign from Tavern. I obviously am not fit for this job. My services are unwanted. If the community really wants to make this place better than they can moderate it. I support anyone who is willing to try to improve this place. Anyone who applies for moderating Tavern gets my vote to join modsquad. I just want to see some effort from the community, because right now I don't think they really care. I see members who only want their posts to be left alone, but it's perfectly okay to delete it if it's a tosser or spammer or noob or whatever stupid click there is in HC because I don't like them. Delete all their posts for all I care. That's all I see. I don't see anyone who really wants to make HC. The first thing I'd like to see is people to stop hating each other and get along. The second thing I'd like to see is some effort to clean up the spam that everyone is always complaining about.
Here's your chance to prove me wrong. Show me that you really DO care about HC.
Edit: Removed some swears. I apologize for losing my temper.
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Shai-Hulud
Known Hero
Sicomor
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posted June 30, 2004 10:04 AM |
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Hey!...People...This is reaching anarchy! RSF is the third MOD who takes this decission in such a short period...Soon we will find all self having to choose a MOD from necessity, not because they really are paying an enormous attention to HC.,,
RSF...If..you are really decided to leave the MOD squad..at least give us some time to make things clear around HC...Cause then we will have really big problems...I'm not around here for so much time...but I think you really take care of your job...
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madmartigan
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
who will never walk alone
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posted June 30, 2004 01:27 PM |
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As much as I agree with more than %50 of what Acu said, I believe RSF is the best (among all others  ) mod tavern currently has. He does care about the tavern. I believe his decision to leave is wrong.
Yes, he SUX as a mod. Yet, I vote for him to stay.
he wrote :
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'' i am deleting every post that I think isn't funny. This may include a few of the funny tossers they can't be funny all the time. I apologize if I accidentally delete something good, but when you are hitting the delete button this many times...
Anyways, I'm trying to set the tone for how the thread should look, which is funny.
Edit: Okay, just deleted like two pages. Now we have close to a page of funny stuff. This post will be deleted in a couple days.''
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an excellent example of how he sux Who the heck are you to "set the tone"??? Are we supposed to consult you before posting anything, if we are in compliance with your "tone"? This is just funny.
I also agree on the favoritism part. RSF does favor certain posters. He lets certain spam to stay, he deals out silly +qp's. However, obviously, that is not any different from what an average mod in HC does
No matter how bad a mod RSF is, with him tavern is still a place which is fun and taken care of.
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Dragon_Slayer
Honorable
Supreme Hero
toss toss toss
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posted June 30, 2004 01:35 PM |
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I am very disappointed at the people bagging RSF. I am a frequent poster in Tossers Tavern and i didn't enjoy it at all when people came and spammed the place up. RSF deleted around 8 of my posts when i was arguing with a member but you don't hear me winging. Everyone wants the perfect mod. If a Mod isnt perfect everyone has something bad to say about them. RSF so far is the only active mod that does anything. I bet if RSF didn't do anything people would windge that he isn't active enough!
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Vadskye91
Promising
Supreme Hero
Back again
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posted June 30, 2004 03:24 PM |
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Not another mod leaving? 
I can't say much about what happens in the Tavern, because I don't post there often. But he does do a good job in the Bard's Glade. At least he's not resigning as mod completely... *feeble smile*
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RedSoxFan3
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Legendary Hero
Fan of Red Sox
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posted June 30, 2004 07:41 PM |
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MadMartigan:
That's why I quit. I think I can do more as a member than as a mod. People always say I leave Dingo's when I delete it just as equally as anyone else who spams. If I see spam, then I delete it, but I don't care anymore. I no longer have to deal with the selfishness of the members in Tavern. Oh and about Tossers Tavern. I really could care less if you don't like it, because everyone was complaining in the first place about the spam. The fact of the matter is that after I deleted the posts, the thread was more interesting then it was previously, because it wasn't filled with spam. The 'tone' of the thread which I was referring to means 'not spam'.
And now that I've had enough abuse and I don't want the job anymore. You expect me to be a moderator and take your abuse. No. That's not how it works. And as for your so called silly QPs for no reason. I'd like you to show me these QPs. Seriously. I would definitely LOVE to see all the favoritism that I "supposedly" have committed. Please give me examples, because you aren't going to find a damn thing that holds any water at all.
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Consis
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
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posted June 30, 2004 08:23 PM |
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Edited By: Consis on 30 Jun 2004
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Hmm,
RedSoxFan3,
Your decision to resign seems a bit rushed but if that is your decision then I must respect it. I have read your thoughts concerning this matter and I am saddened by your feelings being hurt. I do think some members were too hard on you. Regardless of what you decide, I'd like to thank you for your service in the Tavern as a member who visits there often. Thankyou. I certainly hope you decide to stay on as Moderator for the Bard's Glade Pyre. There has never been a better Mod for that section of HC. Please continue the excellent work you are doing there.
Outside of hearing the major reason for this thread, I have noticed there is also a very strong need for a new Tavern Moderator. I would like to nominate Dingo for Tavern Mod. In my mind he is more attentive than most think him to be. I think he would make an excellent Moderator. He has the time, the inclination, and the good judgment needed to be Moderator. I don't think his spam should disqualify him from the job. He does it in the wastelands mostly, which I think is appropriate. In the Tavern he mostly revives old threads, which I think is helpful for new members like myself who would like to have participated in discussions that happened before we joined.
  Dingo for Tavern Moderator
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Asmodean
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Supreme Hero
Heroine at the weekend.
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posted June 30, 2004 08:41 PM |
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*sigh*
I think it's a shame.
The only Mod I ever really saw in Tavern apart from RSFwas Kitten, and I only ever really see her in TT.
RSF looked to me like he was trying to clean up Tavern for the better.
He made a feedback thread and asked members views on what should stay and what should go.
And all he got was bashed for his trouble and effort.
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Sir_Stiven
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Legendary Hero
banned
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posted June 30, 2004 09:12 PM |
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alrdy wrote what i think on the matter in a thread earlier.
RSF has his heart into this but some decisions IMO needs to be more thought through.
But right now he seems like the only mod that have any interest whatsoever in making HC better in tavern.
instead of having RSF resigned you should IMO replace the others and see what RSF could make in a tavern mod squad group instead of a tavern mod solo.
He deserves alot of credit for trying to uphold the tavern on his own more or less.
hexa and lith obviously are busy with other things... but i havent seen any of those two have the passion to make HC better as RSF have even together.
So replacing RSF might seem like the better and easier decision to many of you, but who will do anything for the tavern then?
I really hope valery talks RSF into keep modding in tavern as i hope he will replace the others. There is no need to have moderators who isnt active.
Only thing that happens is that the active one will take all the crap because he is the only one doing anything.
Conclusion: keep RSF and boot the rest, most of em have other sections of HC anyway to moderate where they seem to be more interested and active.
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mvassilev
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 01, 2004 04:37 AM |
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The Tavern needs a mod like RSF. As I have noted sometime earlier, RSF is the only mod that actually does something aside from spamming. Yes, spamming. No one ever accused a mod of spamming (except for Lich_King, and he is now resigned), but they do (This opens up an interesting theory. If you accuse a mod of spamming, they resign.). RSF is the one who DEALS with all the spam. RSF is the only mod who is not blind to spam, and, best of all, he's active. Sure, Kitten is active too, but she isn't a very good mod. RSF for Mod of the Millenium! RSF for Admin! Hey, actually that would be cool.
However, if RSF doesn't want to be a mod of the Tavern, I want to mod it.
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RedSoxFan3
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Legendary Hero
Fan of Red Sox
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posted July 01, 2004 11:51 AM |
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I would be willing to mod Tavern under a few conditions. First I have already proposed something new, which I call Thread COCs. Look in Tavern Feedback/Complaints for more info on that. Second I would want to work together with other active moderators.
Actually as much as everyone thinks Dingo is a spammer. I think that most people shrug off the one-liners as boring, however they are intended as jokes, which would probably be much funnier in person. Another thing that kinda bothers me. Many people considered RMS to be a great mod, however no one ever complained about his spam. And when talking with Dingo, I definitely see him being quite perceptive on seeing potential problems. For example I asked him about one of my ideas and he said that he was unsure about it and gave me like 5 different potential problems.
Although I don't think he should become a moderator until the community would accept it as there would be a lot of tension.
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