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tSar-Ivor
Promising
Legendary Hero
Scourge of God
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posted April 07, 2017 02:24 AM |
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From a de-jure perspective the mods' aren't there to serve the community though, they're there to uphold the CoC.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 07, 2017 03:40 AM |
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and if the coc no longer serves the community, or is only used for personal reasons? what then?
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted April 07, 2017 10:13 AM |
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Yesterday, it actually dawned on me that you are frostysh are pretty much the same, at the core. You both reject the common social framework that we as a human race have constructed and built (and still adapt and change gradually) to help keep structure and order, when it doesn't suit your personal needs or views. At best, you are intolerant towards others who think or act differently, at worst you show utter disrespect. You just go about showing it in different ways from one another.
To add insult to that injury, both of you also seem to have a tendency of playing the victim card, blaming all the people that you butt heads with for causing the problems you're experiencing. The irony of it all is that both of you have written more than once about feelings of loneliness, social rejection and lack of reallife friends, while you either don't want to see or are incapable of seeing (I don't know which, to be honest) that these are demons of your own making, not of the people you're dealing with or the social network you're interacting with.
We, as mod squad, have to maintain a form of social order and stability on these forums as dictated by the rules layed out a while ago by Valeriy; they form the foundation of the way social action on these forums is expected, desired and upheld. When you signed up here, you agreed and subscribed to those rules. Both you and frostysh have shown tendencies to undermine those rules and regulations, however and both of you have been penalised for transgressions in the past.
While I honestly admire your titanic graphics work for Heroes 3 and have a great respect for your tenacity in it (although, truth be said, also worries about the mental aspect of it), it doesn't give you a free ticket to just cross the lines that have been detailed in the CoC. Violate the rules, suffer the penalty; no one is above them.
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The last Reasonable Steward of Good Game Design and a Responsible Hero of HC. - Verriker
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OhforfSake
Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
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posted April 07, 2017 10:19 AM |
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Why all these personal attacks?
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted April 07, 2017 10:37 AM |
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Law is law. I also wish certain things to be gone (like floodprotect), but that doesn't mean that I have to make scenes all the time about it.
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phe
Famous Hero
Life and Freedom
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posted April 07, 2017 12:01 PM |
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Edited by phe at 12:05, 07 Apr 2017.
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Desecration of Statue of Liberty should result in several month of banning from OSM/VW etc...perpetrator should spend this time in forced labour camp for advanture map graphic makers...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 07, 2017 12:53 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 12:58, 07 Apr 2017.
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I don't think anyone wants you gone fred, you are fun, you enjoy the community and you have things to talk about. But we can probably all agree that your latest topic was on the graphic side, just as I'm sure we can agree that there was no ill intent behind it. It is none of my business to tell you how to feel about it but eh crap happens. Keep calm and be awesome?
On the matter of the tavern and vw, I wholeheartedly agree that a more dedicated effort would benefit the forum. Toasting junk threads, promoting good ones and so on. I'd like to see it happen and I believe that Tsar would do it justice.
The modder's workshop and headline items could use some attention too. There are worthwhile news and topics to promote, especially now that we are in the series twilight.
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Map also hosted on Moddb
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 07, 2017 03:03 PM |
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 07, 2017 03:25 PM |
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Can't stop you but I'd like you to stay.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 07, 2017 10:46 PM |
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having regular members dislike you is one thing; i can deal with that(i have proved that many times, i think). but having mods dislike you and using their power against you(especially provokingly comparing you to a troll that you and many other forum members have been railing against and being able to get away with it because "mod status"; which, by the way maurice, i saw coming 2 days ago. it's sad that i can expect such underhanded and outright bullsnow from a mod), is a tad too much. if they want me to fall in line, then they better be getting EVERYONE to fall in line, or NO ONE at all. that the mods choose to go after me instead of someone who outright provokes people for inexplicable reasons repeatedly and unrepentantly, and clearly against the community at large, is snowing retarded. these petty little rivalries have become far too old. i had to deal with that from cor before(but cor admitted it at the time, there is that), and now i'm dealing with it from maurice. in the future, i'm sure i'd have to deal with it from kiryu, once he found a way to not make his disdain for me so painfully obvious. or maybe not, who knows. all i know, is that i don't have to stick around for it. like i said, it's tiring. i've put a lot into hc, and a lot into attempting to explain myself; only to have it fall on many deaf ears.
hey, at least after i'm gone, the group of sjw's will come back and they'll all take over this place. there's that to look forward to. and they'll have a mod representing them. lol. you guys have fun with that, because that's the direction hc is headed. you mark my words. i've seen it happen to 4chan, of all places. and if they can infiltrate the snow of the internet, they'll snowing steam-roll hc. count on it.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted April 07, 2017 10:57 PM |
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Roh come on Fred stay with us you're an awesome fellow and top-quality modder, just stop breaking the CoC on purpose and everything will be fine.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 07, 2017 10:59 PM |
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i don't deliberately do anything against the coc. it's just that to the coc, i'm satan.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted April 07, 2017 11:02 PM |
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Next time you post risque threads, just use the h7 forum. No one goes there anymore
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OhforfSake
Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
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posted April 07, 2017 11:07 PM |
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What will it take to calm you most appreciated Fred?
Maybe if you accidentally stumbled upon most unflattering yet epic sexy pictures of yours truly?
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted April 07, 2017 11:10 PM |
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But this decision didn't come alone. Something like this definitively requires a discussion, which has been done by the mods.
And, most surprising? How you claimed how others aren't special, in a sense to be given some extra attention. Well, you got your attention, then.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 08, 2017 12:32 AM |
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LizardWarrior said: Next time you post risque threads, just use the h7 forum. No one goes there anymore
lol, nice.
@ ohfor: well, it certainly couldn't hurt...
EnergyZ said: But this decision didn't come alone. Something like this definitively requires a discussion, which has been done by the mods.
you really think that every time a mod makes a decision to do something, they all have to communicate with one another beforehand, and can't just use their power how they see fit regardless, at any given time? it's adorable that you think that. *pats on head*
as for the rest of your post... what?! lol.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 08, 2017 07:19 AM |
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I am not a fan of comparing or using analogies to make a point as it can go wrong in so many ways. Anyways, see you around Fred. Bring back some pizza.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 08, 2017 07:43 AM |
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Elvin said: I am not a fan of comparing or using analogies to make a point as it can go wrong in so many ways.
i know. i was just about to post a public-service message that would encourage the mods to ban me, but then i realized that the wording could just as easily be used against me in argument. so i deleted it. there's really no point in arguing anyway, because i'm not reaching anyone i'm trying to reach. those with eyes and a functioning brain already know what i'm on about, anyway.
i just hope fred80'll be able to handle it. he has his work cut out for him.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted April 08, 2017 07:00 PM |
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fred79 mate for sure it is frustrating but no point to leave other than mere pride, stick around mate lol
meanwhile admins (or whoever is in charge at the moment I dunno lol) I personally think you should create a Creature Quest forum and make Galaad the moderator, that is the only thing anchoring the forum at the moment ever since Ubisaft and Erwin flunked out of the industry lol
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 08, 2017 07:52 PM |
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verriker said: no point to leave other than mere pride
i'm totally confused right now. in what way would me leaving have anything to do with pride?
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