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posted July 23, 2004 10:33 PM

Memorizing capitals is, without a doubt, an excellent indicator of intelligence and education.


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posted July 23, 2004 10:37 PM

Shai ... opinia mea ... americanii sunt prosti ....

i mean their kids make paper-cubes in 5th grade ... learn "spelling" in i-don't-know-which grade ... in Romania in 5th grade you know to write, speak , spell , bla bla .... and about geography .... americans & geography are like Pirahnas with shotguns ....
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posted July 23, 2004 10:44 PM

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btw, doesn't America also apply to Canada?


thats like saying isnt Romania the same as afganistan. were completely different countries
Actually, that is a very bad comparison since neither Romania nor Afganistan is a continent, while America is.
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posted July 23, 2004 10:46 PM
Edited By: Draco on 23 Jul 2004

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in Romania in 5th grade you know to write, speak , spell , bla bla .... and about geography



I should hope you can read write and spell by grade 5.. geeze, by grade five I was learning a bunch of weird things, but we had to be able to read write and do multiplications and divisions before we could leave grade 3.

if you cant read by the time you are in grade 5 you will never learn to read, my little cousin whos in grade 1 can read (i never checked if he could write, im a babysitter not a teacher )


p.s. I assumed by Americans you mean the American people, not North Americans. sorry if that changes anythin jerk! lol

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posted July 23, 2004 11:00 PM

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Why Romanians get so mad when people associate Romania wqith Dracula?! Well.. That is beaucuse an idiot that had never even visited Romania, wrote a book about that!!!But that demonstrates that you didn't read all my post. btw. Are you from Hungary, or I'm I wrong?

Draco:
It seems that you don't know even what happens in your own country.. You know... When the war against Iraq and the Afghanistan started, Powell and Bush had a simple request.. Can we have a military base in Romania at Constanza? We said yes, even if Al-Quida made serious threats to all U.S. allies. 99% americans don't need us?!? Well.. Let me explain some things to you.. I'll be telling you a short story about your domain, computers. Romania produced RAV antivirus( which was bought last year by americans), AVX antivirus is mad also by romanians, many, many romanian students are beeing offered places to study in great ameican and english univesities. Also let me present you the most recent example: a girl from Romania, was presented on TV with the fact that she won the first place from world at the mathematics olypmics. Also one more thing. At the computers programming contest from world-wide Americans take the first place and romanians the second, and even somethimes the first place. Now let me present you my computer: Celeron 566 Mhz, Nvidia Vanta 32MB, 128 SDRAM PC100, 10GB Seagate(having this one from 1999 and haven't made any upgrades). And I have only 17 years and I'm working as a web-designer for a local company , started just 3 days ago, making cool stuff in Flash MX( i'll launch my site in a few days). And why do I do it? So that I could go to a damn rock fetival, to get some damn 30$!!! Selling my intellingence for 30 damn $!!! For a full website americnas get 15000$ at least, when romanians get 500$, but are the same quality. Now that I call IGNORANCE!!! So let me redifine your phrase: WHY DO WE NEED HUMANS THAT DON"T LEAVE IN U.S.!!!

Pirahna: Your so righ there.

Consis and Oldtimer: Yeah.. What do we have to know that the earth is round and people leave on the other side?

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posted July 23, 2004 11:28 PM

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Shai ... opinia mea ... americanii sunt prosti ....

i mean their kids make paper-cubes in 5th grade ... learn "spelling" in i-don't-know-which grade ... in Romania in 5th grade you know to write, speak , spell , bla bla .... and about geography .... americans & geography are like Pirahnas with shotguns ....


Piranha.  The 'n' comes before the 'h'.  Shall I assume that you're in 4th grade?
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posted July 23, 2004 11:31 PM

Weel.. He really got that wrong.. I know how to read from the age of 5 and to write from 8. And I'm considered a middle student, having also an IQ of 121 or something bigger then 120.
But you should read my last thread and see real stuff there, not reading and writing. I pressume almost anyone can read and write by the age of 9.
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posted July 23, 2004 11:33 PM

I never realized how manyy ignorant people there were until I came online calling every American fat & ignorant & everythang else that goes with it because they think we support our president & govt 100%.
How stupid can people be. I call it Jealousy.
It's called Money which our greedy govt charges a bundle to buy books to even go to school.

Why do you think our presidents suck, because if a president actually gave a hoot about us people, they get assacinated for it,The Govt dont want change, they want thier money & will charge even more then an arm & a leg.

You think most of us can fly out to ROmania or any other place, you got to be kidding, you have to be literally rich to even do that because it costs so much for a one way.

Kids why dont you use your own judgements & brains instead of listening to your parents whines about the past.
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posted July 23, 2004 11:45 PM

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Wow, I had no idea we were so educational. Have you looked up Macedonia yet?


Why bother, we all know it's that bit of greece in the North East
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posted July 24, 2004 12:24 AM

Draco,
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The reason our population may seem to ignore you guys (any little country) is because 99% of us will never need to know about you, simple truth. why learn something you dont need to know, if you do ever travel to those parts, you will learn it, or if you plan of doing buisness with their people, then maybe you will learn it.

I’m sorry you feel that way. And here’s when the second component comes into play – arrogance. There was one research in USA where 96% percent of the people believed that foreigners long to live in USA. The percent of people from Australia actually wanting to go there was 1%. And I assure you that number is not much higher in the countries where we come from.

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oh as for the geography thing, our Geo class, was mainly used to teach us about stuff like sedimentary rocks, and (roche ignee) ?ignes rocks in english? and stuff, and how to navigate a map. not so much the contents of the map.

Lol. We learned how to navigate on a map when I was age 7.

Mvass,
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WHAT? Those interviewed people are idiots! I could answer 100%, and I'm only 12.

That’s cause you’re Russian.

Bort,
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Memorizing capitals is, without a doubt, an excellent indicator of intelligence and education.

Like you think you would score better in maths?! lol

Shai,
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Why Romanians get so mad when people associate Romania wqith Dracula?! Well.. That is beaucuse an idiot that had never even visited Romania, wrote a book about that!!!But that demonstrates that you didn't read all my post. btw. Are you from Hungary, or I'm I wrong?

I’m from Macedonia. I know what you want to say, but I see you don’t get what I want to say. Romania is (how should I put this diplomatically).. well, not excessively important country and if it wasn’t for that “idiot”, even those people who have heard of Romania wouldn’t have heard. Don’t you fantasize that Romania is very important and USA wont survive without you (military bases? Come on!). There aren’t only brain farms in Eastern Europe, but also Asia, India etc. They will continue to get ready-made intelligence, and just “implement” it in the capitalist money-making machine. And the exact reason is that any sane person when offered like 100 times money for the same job, he would take that offer. And we’re going to continue licking their asses, and provide them with the toilet paper after that. And say “thank you!”. (the polite american way)
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Why bother, we all know it's that bit of greece in the North East

Yes, PH. I just wish you also knew more about why is that bit of piece now in Greece and with dramatically changed demographics.
Btw, it’s not north-east (that would be Thrace). It’s north. And it’s only a half of the territory of the region of Macedonia. The rest of it being the Republic of Macedonia and a small part of Bulgaria.
But I guess that’s only one other segment of Western history and hypocrisy that we should say “thank you” for.

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posted July 24, 2004 12:26 AM

LoL

It's like saying, America is the statue of liberty and the statue of liberty is American. The same goes for Greece and Macedonia. I think the real question is:

"Who's da man?"
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posted July 24, 2004 12:35 AM
Edited By: privatehudson on 23 Jul 2004

*sighs* Some people round here need to spend less time on rampant nationalism and more on detecting sarcasm and humour when it's sent their way, it would save them time...

Btw, the Macedonian bit of Greece happens to be North East of a good chunk of it I also happen to know quite a bit about the various bits of what people call "macedonia" since I happen to read about these things. Don't let these facts get in the way of your little rant about what you expect us westerners to know though

Hypocrisy would be if we DIDN'T find these conflicting views out, some of us do, so pull your head back in for a change
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posted July 24, 2004 12:38 AM

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I totaly agrea with Shai. The ex comunist countries (one of wich i come from too) had much better school system, and generaly people know things.
Beside Europe has many separate countries with centuries of history, while USA is just ONE contry with many states inside it. It would be like someone pretended that people should know all of Italian provinces.......heck, not even Italians know them


Agreed most strongly.
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posted July 24, 2004 12:48 AM
Edited By: Shai-Hulud on 23 Jul 2004

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well, not excessively important country and if it wasn’t for that “idiot”, even those people who have heard of Romania wouldn’t have heard.


Yeah... And why not just talk about India as the country of Kama Sutra.. You know there are many more things about Romania then Dracula.. Really... I hate the fact that people only hear Romania only from Dracula... That is pure fantasy.. Why let's take Russia didn't became the country of vampires? You know a guy suffered from a rare disease that made him act just like a vampire( need of blood, sun light killing him...)? That guy killed like 40 dogs in a night, sucking their blood. And that is a real fact, not a writer imagination. Some people, after reading the book, still ask them selves in 2004 A.D. if the story is true!!! And btw, I'm not the only one who hates this joke with Romania and Dracula... Now if you are from Macedonia, let's have a survey.. How many people on HC know where Macedonia is and it's capital? Or let them say what the first thing that pops-up in thier mind. Or Romania... I'll tell you about Romania.. 3 simple things..
I.Dracula
II.Ceausescu
III. O-Zone- Dragostea din Tei( now i really doubt if Europe has an ideea what is that thing called music!!! By the way, does anyone on this forum knows what Dragostea din Tei means, except romanian guys?) btw,Ozone is not from Romania is from Moldovia!!! Ever heard of it?!?

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Don’t you fantasize that Romania is very important and USA wont survive without you (military bases? Come on!).


I was talking about Draco's 99%. That is fantasize. I'm not telling that U.S. couldn't had made this war work, but you know we helped very much...



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posted July 24, 2004 02:02 AM

Ignorance is only perspective anyway.  You say its bad that americans(we can include canada to, it's america jr. donchaknow) don't know world geography, maybe most americans don't care about where other countries are, chances are most american will never go there anyway.  

Americans care about things that are really important, like how to rebuild their '79 Nova, or the batting averages of every baseball player in the Major League.

You assume that geography is somehow more valuable, then you degrade americans because they don't share this view.  This is more arrogant than anything that you accuse americans of being.

We (in general) don't really care what the rest of you are doing.

How many native Languages do your country's schools have deal with?  In american schools we have students who speak: English, Spanish, Russian, Ukraine(might be same as russian), Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, Tongan, Samoan, Various Native american languages, Japanese, Arabic, Italian, German, Canadian(very close to English), Cambodian, Thai, Phillipino, Guamese, Portugese, and I'm leaving some out.  We don't need to know about the rest of the world...the rest of the world is coming here.  


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posted July 24, 2004 04:17 AM

Ok OldTimer let me be as blunt as posible. The rest of the world hates you, not becouse they are jealous Of your richness, but becouse this world is rulled by the bunch and arogant ignorants like you.
Most honestly i can tell you i would rather die than to be like a "common american"
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posted July 24, 2004 04:51 AM

tossers.

You think americans are stupid because they dont know other nations at other continents?

then ill personally dare any of you to put out all the nations and capitals which seems to matter so much in africa. Shouldnt be that tough huh concidering all of your excellent geography.

I dont like the ignorant american more then you do, put if you think all americans are this way or your educational system is much better because of your geography skills then its rather you who needs to get your heads out from the sandbunkers.

Attacking someone for being ignorant while being a leading example isnt the way to go.

IMO this thread just seem to be made for little people to ventilise their opinions on how bad and stupid america are. Atleast have the guts to say it right out by yourself instead of hiding behind 10 others saying the same in some bad attempt of a discussion thread.

get a clue.

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posted July 24, 2004 05:06 AM

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Ok OldTimer let me be as blunt as posible. The rest of the world hates you, "


and I thought I was well liked, well it goes to show....

I said this before but it bears repeating, all the hate is coming in one direction, towards the USA(we don't really care enough to hate back).  SO if you want to be small minded and hate filled I guess thats up to you.  You guys seem to be the arrogant ones, thinking that you're so important that we need to keep you uppermost in our minds.  If you would rather die that be an american, more power to ya, be sure to give your ticket to your neighbor though, that boat is always full, with others begging to get on.
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posted July 24, 2004 05:23 AM

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Ok OldTimer let me be as blunt as posible. The rest of the world hates you, not becouse they are jealous Of your richness, but becouse this world is rulled by the bunch and arogant ignorants like you.
Most honestly i can tell you i would rather die than to be like a "common american"


Your mad because we're on top and your not. That sounds like textbook envy to me.
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posted July 24, 2004 10:09 AM

Oldtimer:
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We (in general) don't really care what the rest of you are doing.


Yeah... Sure.. That's way every year, someone from U.S. says..:"Look, X country has nuclear weapons.Let's destroy it.". Last year was Iraq, this year it was a bit closer to get  N. Coreea. But what do you know? A President comes to the rest of the world( president that most of you hate), says: You know fron our reports we found out that Iraq has different weapons ready to attack U.S." And then here we go. Ohh Let's not forget... " Would you like for our help let's say some money in your bank account of xxxxxxxxxxx $?"
Ohh... And it's sadly that are sow many members who don't read all the thread before posting..

Sir_Stiven: I say you SHOULD( this meant you have to if wannna post something interesting) read all the post. I was talking about guys I know who know all the worlds states and capitals, but have only 17 years and don't wanna make a carrier out of geography.

Aquamen: I am really wondering.... What I would choose?! Poverty, but lot of knowledge or Richness, but no knoledge(except my domain of expertise).

P.S. Has any one of you had an ideea, that Mircea Eliade died leading the indianistic university from Chicago. You had no ideea, that one of the most interesting writers from Romania and one of the best specialits in indianitic in the world was teaching your students( beacuse of the communists), but you surely know about Dracula. Also did you know that every year at least 10 students from Romania are called by the topest universities in U.S.to study there?
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