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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: What to build first???
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LordLazy
LordLazy


Promising
Famous Hero
Wood cleaner
posted August 27, 2004 08:13 AM

he's kidding with ya... no... main priority is always creatures.... I'll tell you why in a few simple steps: IF you build creatures.. youll be able to kill more creatures... giving more resources.. which again let you build more buildings then youll see your castle built up at end of week 2

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cobra_1561
cobra_1561


Hired Hero
Leader of Low-Lifes
posted August 27, 2004 08:17 AM

Now i'm more confused than i was in the first place ... What would a combination a these two would do??  I mean bulid creatures and capitol in the same time ? Build one creature bulding  one for capitol and so on ...
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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted August 27, 2004 09:04 AM

Heres a better example.

Starting week 2 you build your capital & you start to build your creatures & by week 3 you finally build lv 7.
Depending on the castle type maybe week 2.

Then in week 3 your up against 4-5 Behemoths right down your throat but heres a better example, a scenario.

You answer how you would deal with this situation.

you are castle & I am Fortress.

You work on your capital & by say week 2 day 1 you finally get your capital day 1. NOTE: (Open Map).

lets go through the steps.
The maps semi rich.
1: Townhall
2: Marketplace
3: Blacksmith
4: magic Guild
5: City Hall.
6: say lv 3
7: well say you get the capital to be nice

Now week 2 day 1 you build lv 4 dwelling & now day 2 you see my main hero with a descent hero to your not so good hero.

As follows
3 Hydras
6 Wyverns
24 Baskalisks
38 Dragon flies (SInce I like to use the speed)
38 Lizards
about say 58 Knolls.

What would you do?
You got the cash but how would you defend your hero & your castle?

Explain please.

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cobra_1561
cobra_1561


Hired Hero
Leader of Low-Lifes
posted August 27, 2004 09:20 AM

Hmm i guess youre rigth ... but in your case the map must be small ... in other cases you can't reach another town so fast (can you ? ) ... Like i said for small or medium maps i agree with building army ... but when i play a XL map i rather take my time and Build for money . Please corect me if i'm wrong
How would i deal with the situation .... I would quit .. no just kiding .. i would stay in the castle because i had the castle built (so i get 3 archers) lets say i have only lvl 1 magic guild .... I would by another hero and tranfer the army to my main hero and then .... I would pray to GOD
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Aculias
Aculias


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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted August 27, 2004 10:01 AM

Example 2
The bigger maps & why building creatures is also important when you play an expert like me.

In week 1 I am ready to rock early.
I have my army & by the end of week 1  would basically have my whole native area cleared & my heroes gaining exp while your only working on the capital.

week 2 I have a descent army & clearing the sec areas & getting other towns or town etc.

WEEK 3 or late week 2 I am ready to beat any creatures & my hero is tough.

By the time you get your capital, you have to wait a few days to accululate money for your 7th lv dweliing & a castle.

mid week 3 to week 4 latest, Your dead .
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titus
titus

Bad-mannered
Tavern Dweller
posted August 27, 2004 10:03 AM

CAIPTOL WITH NO DOUBT



Capitol is the first objetive and best with no doubt.
For what do u want troops if u cant buy it?

Just do the citadel, castle, and then pass turns until u can buid the capitol.
After that your castle is safe even if anyone came with more troops, you have the towers. So if you havent buold your capitol and have troops prepare to death, cause i win 4000 per day and in several weeks i will kill you, easy.

Anyone who has a doubt, play with me and heŽll see.

carnabales@hotmail.com

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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted August 27, 2004 10:12 AM

you fooish newb LOL.

What are you going to do in the first 3 weeks with all that gold.
By your goblins & wolf raiders & maybe the Orcs LOL?
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titus
titus

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Tavern Dweller
posted August 27, 2004 10:18 AM - penalty applied.

foolish your mother snower, snow

what money? you can buy creatures if u want outside the castle, but usually is not necesary with stupids gays like you, cause i safe in my castle with the towers.
While i have money now to make the upgrades an every thing i want, u have poor trrops and no money.

Piss off

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titus
titus

Bad-mannered
Tavern Dweller
posted August 27, 2004 10:25 AM - penalty applied.

Promising
Legendary Hero
pretty boy/Angel Sacrafice

LOL LOL LOL
8=======================D

play with me and eat snow
when ever u want
carnabales@hotmail.com

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cobra_1561
cobra_1561


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Leader of Low-Lifes
posted August 27, 2004 10:29 AM

Ok guys don't argue ... it's not that serious .. you don't have to swear .... And by the way .. Aculias
you're rigth again but what if you if you play on expert ... you won't have resources nor gold to build all the buldings without the Capitol or Resource silo
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csarmi
csarmi


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posted August 27, 2004 10:39 AM
Edited By: csarmi on 27 Aug 2004

I think that the best build order is the following (I take the example of Stronghold, that is simple.)

Day 1 - Hall of Valhalla - need that attack asap
Day 2 - Mage Guild - even a barbarian cannot fare without spells
Day 3 - Marketplace pretty obvious, you'll need it to change
Day 4 - Mess Hall - so that you have more goblins
Day 5 - Resource Silo - you'll need that Ore ad Wood
Day 6 - Freelancer's Guild - so that you'll be able to get some money from your secondary heroes (sell their troops right away!)
Day 7 - Blacksmith - going for Capitol
Day 8 - Orc Dwelling (to have some ranged power, don't forget to buy two heroes here and sell all their creatures!)
Day 9 - Citadel (still for capitol)
Day 10 - Castle (no comment)
Day 11 - Town Hall
Day 12 - Ogre Fort
Day 13 - Escape Tunnel (see Aculias over there? must be a way to retreat from town, big advantage!)
Day 14 - Ballista Yard (a ballista is a great help to your powerful 8/0/2/2 hero by now)
Day 15 - Wolf Rider dwelling (ready to ride?) (do not forget to sell the troops of your new heroes)
Day 16 - City Hall
Day 17 - Capitol!!!!!!!!!!!!
Day 18 - Upgrade goblins
Day 19 - Upgrade wolf riders
Day 20 - Upgrade orcs
Day 21 - Upgrade Ogres

Now you have a fair economy, with level 1-4 all upgraded!! You will rock from here!!! You can already take on level 3, and 4, maybe even on packs of level 5!

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titus
titus

Bad-mannered
Tavern Dweller
posted August 27, 2004 10:40 AM

The boy begun to sware and he is not right, again.

IŽll explain you what i will do.
I have the capitol and poor troops but i have a castle so i am safe.
Then i do the constructions of my troops but i dont buy anything unless someone came to attack.
Then i buy my troops of level 6, and 5 until my money is out.
Every day i win 4000, and you win 2000, and u have to do the capitol.
I Žll have the best troop of level 7 before u have...etc

There is a lot of advantages.



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csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
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posted August 27, 2004 10:47 AM

I come to you at week 4 day 1 with the following army:

Level 22 hero
12 Archangels
16 Champions
26 Zealots
38 Crusaders
83 Royal Griffins
101 Marksmen
26 Wyverns

See if you are safe.

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cobra_1561
cobra_1561


Hired Hero
Leader of Low-Lifes
posted August 27, 2004 10:50 AM

Csarmi .. i don't like youre strategy .. it takes 3 weeks to make the capitol and 1-4 lvl uprgraded ... If i go for the Capitol rigth away i'll have it done by week 2 day 1 (day 8) and the start buldin creatures .... in the stronghold case on day 11 i already have Behemots and other creatures so i can beat you up easily
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titus
titus

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Tavern Dweller
posted August 27, 2004 10:51 AM

huas!

22 archangels and no capitol in your first objetive? LOL LOL LOL LOL

where do u get the money, honey?

u usually play easy level with a lot of resources, i can see that.


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titus
titus

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Tavern Dweller
posted August 27, 2004 11:12 AM - penalty applied.

aculias, me deskojono en tu jepeto, mandril

aculias, snow
i see you are an expert, yes, an expert of the easiest level possible, 8======D
u stupid, try hard levels with no resources and follow that absurd strategy.

those boys smoke so much

8========D
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csarmi
csarmi


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posted August 27, 2004 11:15 AM
Edited By: csarmi on 27 Aug 2004

That's on 130% difficulty. On 160% I'll have a bit less (I get capitol and level 7 dwellings by day 14 only). On 200% everything is different.

That's the advencad difficulty, unless stated otherwise, that's the difficulty people usually play on (AI already on 100% effectivity on combat, fairly low resources).

The larger the map the bigger the advantage you give to your opponent by going for capitol first. (but more than enough on smaller ones too - there you'll be rushed and dead fast).

BTW there is a thread of this already, this one should not even exist (Day 1 Town Hall? for example)

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titus
titus

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Tavern Dweller
posted August 27, 2004 11:26 AM - penalty applied.
Edited By: Hexa on 8 Sep 2004

ok csarmi
why dont we play and show me your style?
do u wwanna bet?
i am absolutely sure that i win u easily. Sure if u follow the strategy in your post. Pathetic.

I played all the campaigns of every expoansion, all the maps, maps on internet (always impossible or hard), and usually play with friends in an intranet.
My first objetive is ALWAYS in every map, expansion, campaign, dificult..etc, the CAPITOL unless someone came to attack.

So, if anyone have another expansion and is not a supid snow like aculias contac me.
Camon, just add my contact and weŽll agree a game, carnabales@hotmail.com


Edit by Hexa: damn I don't chekc the forum for a while and come back to see this?
Ohwell -QP applied.

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csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
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posted August 27, 2004 11:37 AM

I am afraid I would even beat you with the "strategy" posted :-)

If you do not see the irony in that one, that's your problem.

Going for capitol fast instead of creatures is equal to giving up in 95% of the cases. Unless your opponent is not a skilled player like Aculias (man you know whom you talking with? www.toheroes.com, look around a bit)

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yisa666
yisa666

Tavern Dweller
posted August 27, 2004 11:38 AM

RESOURCE SILO

Hey guys, donŽt argue!
Aculias, I think you are right, you will deafeat Titus for sure (y una polla como una olla)
I like the strategy of this other guy of the 22 archangels (se pincha, pero me hace gracia)
Figth againt this ugly guy named Titus and destroy him, please
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