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mitzah
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posted September 06, 2004 09:30 PM

Should the Fortress be back in H5

Should the Fortress be back in H5 ? I think so...
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posted September 06, 2004 09:32 PM

_______ (Fortress'es level 8 without the hydra) yes!
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posted September 06, 2004 09:44 PM

It would be nice to see the Fortress back...I think a "Witch" town like that had a lot of potential, but then it was rather weak in H3...

It all really depends on what sort of town system Ubisoft is using for Heroes 5, I guess. I wouldn't want anything added in if it doesn't mesh with the rest of what they've set up.
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and why not.
posted September 06, 2004 10:19 PM

YES!
Fortress was/is awesome
It would be cool to have it back in H5!
some good reasons:^^





Well, and the units of corse
I love Fortress' high defense and their swamp-lizard-creatures - Dragonflies just own!

Gimme Fortress, Ubi!

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posted September 07, 2004 03:07 AM

I don't think that fortress was a 'wek' town at all.
They were the masters of defensive strategy and their units had some of the best specials ever!
I hated sending My 7th level troops up against Mighty Moos and their bloody death stare.

And I was real disappointed to see that NONE of their units excepth the hydra made it through to HOMM4.

Bring back the fortress for H5. I want Wverns and Bsilisks and Moocows!!
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posted September 07, 2004 03:10 AM

Its not the Moocows you want. Its their specialty thats the big deal about them.
I think that Gorgons suck as creatures, because they dont have a strong mythological base (the real gorgon is nothing close to the homm3), and because they are basically funny cows. I'd prefer a Fortress without the Gorgons, and with their special abillity attached to another critter.
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posted September 07, 2004 03:19 AM

I think the Mighty Gorgons looked very sexy.
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posted September 07, 2004 03:26 AM

We all know what The_Hydra would say.

also, if they do put it back in, which they should, it should have basilisks as this,

not

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posted September 07, 2004 03:30 AM

Apart from Dingo's disturbing techno-bestiality, I personally didn't have a problem with Gorgons looking different.
I mean, what's in a name? They could have called the The Cows Of Death - they'd still be a good unit.
And fortress had so many other good units that it was such a shame they were dropped in H4.

I mean, they created leprechauns, and left out Dragonflies? What's up with that.

I don't think many people would disagree that Fortress should be back in H5.
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posted September 07, 2004 03:36 AM

yes, but if they have werewolfs they should not have gnolls, or atleast not give them brown shirts.  also, it would be good as more of a snake/insect town, and therefore put in the mantis.  if the mantis looked like a serpent fly with pinchers, it could be an upgrade.  
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posted September 07, 2004 08:59 AM

YES - for creatures from Fortress
NO - for City, because in H5 should be new Towns.
About this Gorgrons, it's strange, but creature with hoofs should have difficulty move on swamps
Werewolf on swamps too??? (don't like it)
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igoraki
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posted September 07, 2004 10:58 AM

am all for fortress back into homm world....

my favorite town from old h3

here is small explanation about homm gorgon,its actually Catoblepas.

Gorgons have different descriptions, but all are unusually hideous. In Greek myth, gorgon were women who had serpents instead of hair. Another version was a specific creature called a Catoblepas.

A four-legged bull-like creature with a head that is large for its body, and blood-shot eyes that always look down. (Catoblepas is Greek for "that which looks downward.) It has a "high and thick" eyelids, and a long hanging mane.
It eats poisonous plants, and if frightened, it will open its mouth and emits a "certaine sharpe and horrible breath, which infecteth, and poysoneth the air above his head."

http://www.eaudrey.com/myth/catoblepas.htm

and also,in my proposal for h5 towns and creatures,fortress is back with some bugs....

swamp - nature/demonology - fortress

hunter
shaman

0 - lizard - mercury


1 - dragonflys - weakness
(small and weak,but fast and their attack cause some sort of sickness,so units become weaker)


snake - poison
(poisonous snake from swamp,bigger than ordinary snake,fast)


2 - harpy - no retaliation,hit and return,fly
(like in h4)


giant slug - slime skin - 50 % reduced damage,chance to block attack
(very big,bad attack and damage,but lots of hp and great defence,slime can cause attack to slide down and miss,slow)


3 - stag beetle - master defence
(big bug,average speed,very hard to kill,good attack)


bazilisk - turn to stone
(great lizard that petrifies living creatures)


4 - gorgon - cold breath attack
(look like the one from h3,now have breath attack that may freeze oponent)


mantis - fly,bind enemy
(weaker version of h4 mantis,still very fast)


5 - hydra - no retaliation,5-headed attack
(good old hydras)

not sure about gorgon and basilisk,maybe to swap abilities



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posted September 07, 2004 02:20 PM

not bad, but a few corrections.  The basilisk should be like a giant snake, an a total Thug.  also, a swamp creature with ice breath? not good.  the harpy should be replaced with some sort of swamp feind (see H3 ideas in the library of enlighten ment)  

oh, and i did not mean that the werewolf would be in the castle, i mostly meant in the game itself.
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posted September 07, 2004 03:02 PM

werewolf imo does not fit the swamp.
And I liked the Gorgon as a Cow^^ And besides, igorakis description sounds like our Mighty Mooh^^

I just liked their defensive tactics and the Lizard-creatures... I loved all about them, it's hard to explain seriously^^
Well, all I can say that having the fortress back in HoMM5 would be great  [and Tazar, Veridsh, Mirlanda and Bron needa be there, too^^ - maybe Alkin^^]

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mitzah
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posted September 07, 2004 08:59 PM

I'd like to see something wild, swampy, something like... a swamp fiend... a hunter(cooler than the one I made)...
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posted September 07, 2004 09:32 PM

Hey you guys,
I always liked the fortress, esspecially building the wyvern as second unit^^. But I never understood, why the basilisc was a reptile, because in mythologie the basilisc is something like a mixture of a snake and a rooster, that kills people, who look into their eyes. I think such a creature would be really cool.
(P.S. I am from Germany, sorry for my English^^)
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posted September 07, 2004 09:41 PM

Nope. What you're thinking of is a cockatrice, not a basilisk. The mythological basilisk is a reptile.
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posted September 07, 2004 11:17 PM
Edited By: Malekith on 7 Sep 2004

Yah! Fortress must come back HOMM5 pls

Yes i think too Harpies not good idea and dunno snakes
Too simple creature i think.

Maybe some 5lvl? (just like devil conjure ice demons in homm4) or Lizard shaman? unit can conjure snakes or smth.

One alternative is naturally it that it is only summon magic or summon magic and 5lvl? creature magic.

BUT WHAT THIS CREATURE SHOULD BE IF SHOULD?


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Maybe some 5lvl?


Don't know how many creature lvl in homm5 will be. =)
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posted September 08, 2004 08:49 PM

How about a spider, an Arachnid, or a swamp beast like a snake...
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posted September 08, 2004 11:42 PM
Edited By: Daystar on 8 Sep 2004

snakes are good, but i think spiders should go in the chaos/dungeon castle

By the way, is this a good bassilisk?

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