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dimis
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posted December 15, 2005 11:12 PM |
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Thread on Statistics in General
I totally agree with Maretti. I miss that info on the table of contents. Moreover, I think it would be better if these links were a sub-group on a broader category regarding statistical data (of whatever nature) of the game.
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Conan
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posted December 15, 2005 11:26 PM |
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thank you for your comments, I'll be looking into this issue.
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maretti
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posted May 17, 2006 10:36 AM |
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This thread needs an update. Some of the threads mentioned are worthless today and a waste of time reading. Just wanted to mention it because of the new feature where you can choose h3 topics. We dont want new members to waste their time.
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angelito
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posted May 17, 2006 11:15 AM |
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Any suggestions what threads should be deleted and which should be added?
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hobowu
Known Hero
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posted May 17, 2006 02:50 PM |
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if something has to go, i think maybe those fantasy threads... >.<
and a lot of those hero discussions are quite worthless to read... (waste pplz time, however interesting it might be), as the same verdict is repeated throughout those threads.
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maretti
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posted May 17, 2006 10:26 PM |
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Xarfaxs Collectors cut is worthless. The stronghold strategy that comes up if you choose "info" is pretty noobish. There are probably more things that could be corrected cause I found these 2 in about 10 minutes.
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angelito
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posted May 17, 2006 10:54 PM |
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OK...i will take a deeper look into that ToC next week. Any suggestions till then are very welcomed.
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Ecoris
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posted May 22, 2006 01:08 PM |
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Edited by Ecoris at 13:19, 22 May 2006.
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TOC update suggestions
Seeing that the toc of the library was to be updated i took some time to look at some of the threads.
I have the following suggestions for existing threads in the toc:
Help Threads:
Please help me! - The contents should be made clear, like "the scoring system parameters of HoMM3". Strategyplanet has got an online score calculator. One can easily see what affects your score and what doesn't.
Skill Threads:
H3 skill learning percentage - The table is missing. The links referrd to in the thread do not contain the same values. It's not mentioned that you'll also be offered a magic skill at level 4, 8, .. and wisdom at level 6, 12, .. (if not earlier).
I suggest that it's replaced with
Heroes Stats and Skill Chances even though the ANSA table might not be that informative bacause of the ansa rule.
I twould also suggest the somewhat scientific
"On the internals of offered skills when leveling-up a hero"
Some of the threads or more useful than others and contain many good informations. Is it possible to rate them in any way?
Some threads contradict each other. Like two threads concerning movement: Run Forest.... RUN! and How do the logistics and pathfinding skills work exactly?. These two threads give different answers to the questions "Will the bonuses of two gloves add up?" and "Will log affect the bonus from the gloves?".
Still the first one contains many other useful informations and is very valuable.
The following is some thoughts about the library that i would like to share. Perhaps it belongs in the Library Feedback, but it concerns the toc as well.
It is most relevant for threads concerning questions that seek to uncover some objective facts, like "How exactly does the XXX (necro, log, etc) skill really work?", "how are bonuses from hero's speciality's calculated", "what is the chance that some hero class will receive a certain skill", etc.
The example (concerning hero movement) above illustrates a general problem in the library which the toc solves to some degree (I really appreciate the idea and the work of the people behind the toc): The library contains so many threads that finding answers to a given question becomes difficult. AND: One may find several threads that give different or vague answers to your question. This is somewhat annoying bacause in most cases the answer is out there somewhere, you just have to find it. But even though you find the right thread you may still need to read a lot of posts before finding the right one which actually contains the answer you're looking for.
I think that the library is a good forum for discussions, but I think that it should play the role of being a library too, i.e. a place where you go to find information. Therefore I suggest the following:
Perhaps it would be better if the results that various tests have produced where extracted (copied) from the threads and described in articles (a locked thread with one post or something like that). The article should contain a link to the thread where the topic was originally discussed. In many cases these articles could be taken directly as posts from the threads. This would give the facts more authority so you wouldn't have to check them through tests yourself to be 100% sure. Any suggestins/corrections to these articles could be posted in the respective thread and the article could be corrected accordingly. This would also mean that you wouldn't have to go through the whole thread in order to be sure that there were no further corrections to some post. It's my experience that the latter often happens in the discussions.
The idea is like the wikipedia encyclopedia: Anyone may suggest changes/corrections/extensions to some article but only one person or a few (e.g. the moderator) would have rigths to edit the post. So the suggestions would have to be posted in another thread. This would ensure that the article wouldn't be spammed or become several pages long. References to the articles could then be included in the toc instead.
Finally i suggest the following threads included in the toc:
New Threads:
Not in the Manual - (Is this thread already included?)
Edit: Corrected the links
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dimis
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posted May 22, 2006 02:07 PM |
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Spell Probabilities by town type
Let's not forget Spell probabilities by town type thread. Even if some people don't actually agree with the numbers, I think this thread can give us a solid base for fruitful discussion about the matter and hopefully pretty soon reach to some definite conclusions.
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted December 13, 2006 12:33 PM |
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I think that this needs an update.
I will make an update later if you would all like that?
I just need some time, because it is night here and I cannot stay up all night doing this, so maybe tommorow?
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted January 19, 2007 08:34 AM |
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I am pretty busy lately so I might delay for a bit, but once I get sufficiant time I will do it, and I will make it good 
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GabyStan
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Seeking Wisdom
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posted May 03, 2007 09:31 AM |
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Ecoris said:
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Perhaps it would be better if the results that various tests have produced where extracted (copied) from the threads and described in articles (a locked thread with one post or something like that). The article should contain a link to the thread where the topic was originally discussed.
VERY GOOD idea this one. I personally tend to avoid threads longer than 3-4 pages, with few exceptions... And yes, exactly those few which are really important (and long), have to be re-read from time to time. Blessed be those people who have time to make this dream come true!
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Binabik
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posted May 03, 2007 09:54 AM |
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I started on just such a project about a year ago. It's a HUGE project and I don't know if it will ever get done. I've created Word documents on various topics and copy/pasted the best sections from threads into the document. If I don't have time when I see something good I just bookmark it for later reference.
The latest section I worked on was on templates. There aren't very many template threads, but it's amazing how long it takes to go through them and try to figure out a way to put them together that makes sense.
The index is nice, but like you said it's very difficult wading through so many pages to get to the good stuff.
If the project ever gets done, it'll still be pretty long, but it will be a concentration of the best of the best. Hopefully just about anything important regarding H3 will be included.
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GabyStan
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Seeking Wisdom
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posted June 04, 2007 06:04 PM |
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Bless you, Binabik! 
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EliteLeader
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posted July 02, 2007 09:35 PM |
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hehe good luck mate 
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angelito
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posted July 04, 2007 09:57 AM |
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Edited by angelito at 10:02, 04 Jul 2007.
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I am working on an upgrade of the Library-ToC currently.
It will contain all of the "important" threads, the dead links will be removed/replaced and it will be sorted in a slightly different way.
I will also think about Ecoris' suggestions refering to extract important results of different threads into ONE big information thread, so u may find the needed information faster.
If anyone has any more suggestions, let me know by posting your ideas here in this thread.
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lordazamath
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posted July 06, 2007 03:31 PM |
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The TOC should have places for Heroes II threads and Heroes I Threads too, for I'm sure there are still some people (sometimes including me) who play them and would like to find the topics quicker.
Anyway, the TOC is just great for n00bs like me, for not making double-threads.
Great job and keep the TOC always updated
And to Binabik -
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted July 07, 2007 11:09 AM |
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Quote:
I am working on an upgrade of the Library-ToC currently.
It will contain all of the "important" threads, the dead links will be removed/replaced and it will be sorted in a slightly different way.
I will also think about Ecoris' suggestions refering to extract important results of different threads into ONE big information thread, so u may find the needed information faster.
If anyone has any more suggestions, let me know by posting your ideas here in this thread.
he he, great idea, Angelito! Binabik had similar project, however i still don't see update from his side. My proposal: split work into small update steps. Else we will never see final result 
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Binabik
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posted July 07, 2007 11:36 AM |
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My project idea is pretty ambitious. Just from the little work and planning I've done, I know it is a HUGE project. I think even with several committed people splitting the work it will still be a big project.
An example of the size of the project is Frank's tactics thread. I've already gone through part of that thread and I think it would take someone many days, even weeks, just to go through that one thread. (much of the time in Frank's thread is because it covers so many topics)
I've also realized my original idea might not work very well. My idea was to copy/paste the best stuff from the Library and put it in several categories. I wasn't planning on adding any new stuff except to make clarifications or fill in missing info on a topic. But I've decided that a fair amount of new text and lots of graphics will be needed to really make it good.
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angelito
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posted October 19, 2008 08:20 PM |
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Maybe here (if related to online gaming) or here if it is more general.
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