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posted January 31, 2009 04:20 PM |
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Because if you register, you have to give proof that you're looking for a job.
And Mvassland isn't the most liberal? Huh?
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posted January 31, 2009 04:21 PM |
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You have outlawed something.
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posted January 31, 2009 04:22 PM |
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And Mvassland isn't the most liberal? Huh?
What did you do there? Even Skama is more liberal than you.
I think this just reads the highest "Civil Rights" variable.
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posted January 31, 2009 04:40 PM |
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Why aren't my Civil Rights higher? I've legalized drugs and same-sex marriage, and I've outlawed government spying on private individuals.
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posted January 31, 2009 05:56 PM |
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Yes your tiny government may not spy on private individuals... but in your case, maybe those corporations have added a few... "laws"... if you know what I mean 
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posted January 31, 2009 06:11 PM |
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But this is referring to government actions. And, if you look at world rankings, the most liberal nations are almost all anarchies.
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posted January 31, 2009 06:15 PM |
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You know, advertising could be considered a violation of civil rights (or maybe not), just giving you an idea of profit lowering civil rights
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posted January 31, 2009 06:17 PM |
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Nah. Anarchies can have advertising just as well - and how is it a violation of civil rights?
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posted January 31, 2009 06:22 PM |
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Man you need to widen up your perspective on stuff -- since I think you already know that having someone break into your house for advertising purposes (annoying you) is a violation, but that's because it is property -- remember that it's one of the government types as well, which you are experiencing. Communists for example don't have property at all -- that is just a definition of other types of societies, and the problem with you is that you take it as the sole judge in ALL government types.
Also, description of Anarchy from NationStates:Quote:
Its population live in a state of perpetual fear, as a complete breakdown of social order has led to the rise of order through biker gangs.
But with this game's idea, it means that is not a violation of civil rights
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posted January 31, 2009 06:46 PM |
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having someone break into your house for advertising purposes (annoying you) is a violation
Stuff like that is illegal in Mvassland. We don't allow advertising burglars.
Also, NS anarchy is defined as the government type with maximum social, political, and economic freedoms.
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posted January 31, 2009 08:24 PM |
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Apparently, "Economy" is not economic freedoms.
If you check this graph, you'll see that Left-Wing Utopia has low Economic Freedoms. But Spam Virgins has a "Very Strong" Economy.
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posted January 31, 2009 10:10 PM |
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Stuff like that is illegal in Mvassland. We don't allow advertising burglars.
The question is: what makes him a 'burglar'? This answer depends on the government type, obviously it depends on what is meant by 'property' or trespassing. In communist types, those things are way different -- so why do you use your government type to judge the entire mechanism? Why not let a commie judge?
The truth of course is that you shouldn't let any one judge from their government type, since it'll be biased.
@Ash: probably it's because of the 'prevalence' -- I had once identical stats with Cepheus' nation and we had two (kinda different) types of government
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posted January 31, 2009 10:18 PM |
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Prevalence? I doubt it because Left-Wing Utopia is with low economic freedoms and "Very Strong" makes it Anarchy (high, not medium)
And you had the same displayed stats and different governments, that's my whole point. The "Economy" stat doesn't influence the government type directly, there's a hidden "economic freedoms" out there
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posted January 31, 2009 10:39 PM |
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Uh no, the different stats where different in Civil Rights (but had the same civil rights displayed) 
Also btw, if we assume it is economic freedoms, I had a Very Strong economy and was a Father Knows Best state (middle) for a day.
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posted January 31, 2009 11:17 PM |
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Check the second paragraph here
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posted January 31, 2009 11:39 PM |
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Well it also seems that Civil Rights aren't the same as Personal Freedoms -- reason for which Skama back then was different than a nation with the same stats (in the Personal Freedom difference).
what's with the "prevalence" then?
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posted January 31, 2009 11:49 PM |
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The question is: what makes him a 'burglar'?
Seriously? 
And are you suggesting burglars are different under communism? Because I can assure you that the definition of burglary differed very little between the United States and the Soviet Union (or, indeed, North Korea).
As for the Strong economy in William's nation, I suppose that is because it only got became a left-wing utopia recently.
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posted January 31, 2009 11:53 PM |
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what's with the "prevalence" then?
I think it is how hard you change from the current category to another. If you have a high prevalence, it is easier to get into that category and harder to get away from it.
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posted February 01, 2009 12:33 AM |
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Seriously?
Yeah since it's based on the concept of PROPERTY, which is different for government types.
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posted February 01, 2009 12:36 AM |
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