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2XtremeToTake
Promising
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posted July 12, 2005 12:29 PM |
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Do you think they will bring the Fortress back?
I for one hope the fortress and all it creatures are brought back. What about you?
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a_rebirthing...
Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
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posted July 12, 2005 12:33 PM |
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eh, i felt they were alright but not vital
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Fiend_Master
Hired Hero
Master of Hellish Chaos
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posted July 12, 2005 06:09 PM |
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I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really
want to have 6th lvl creatures on day 2 again.
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted July 12, 2005 06:37 PM |
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Fiend Master, check your EEG.. might find a pattern there. Do you REALLY want that so much? Would you, say, KILL, for that? 
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2XtremeToTake
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted July 12, 2005 09:03 PM |
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Nah i had a special liking to the fortress in H3, and i finally get H4 and its all gone.
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted July 12, 2005 10:48 PM |
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I've never liked lizardmen and serpent flies, but the gorgons, wyverns and basilisks should be classics. Also always loved the town (looks, feel and music) but hated the swamp land. Maybe because my heroes would move ~5 steps/day?
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LordTitan
Famous Hero
Hit Dice: 76d12+608 HP
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posted July 13, 2005 12:40 AM |
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The fortress town was the best. It had all the creatures that I really like in other games, or atleast most of them.
I don't know why they didn't put it in H4, it might be because they've done something like that to anger people in all the heroes games (so far), maybe H5 will have something like it.
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B0rsuk
Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted July 13, 2005 04:58 PM |
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How could you not like Dragonflies ? They dwell in hollows, have cool animation, and together with Wyverns are great at softening enemies. Dragonflies - dispel and weakness, Wyverns - devastating poison... It makes the job much easier for basilisks, gorgons and so on. Hydras are very cool, but - admitely - harder to use than most 7 level units.
It's very cool when enemy Archangels have 150 hp each after several rounds, and Beastmaster's stats help a lot ! Letting Wyverns do their job often proved fatal for my MP opponents.
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No, I have no illusions about it. There won't be Fortress in H5, even if it was one of best-looking towns, and with good music too. That dense, humid athmosphere...
With just 6 towns they'll probably bring back only most classic towns. It's not like Fortress was terribly popular in MP, either.
Sorry, but for some obscure reason I cannot edit post on this machine.
Say what you want about Fortress, but it was one of most athmospheric - and consistent towns ever in Homm. Almost all creatures have something in common (they're slimy, in general :-), lots of reptiles). The two least fitting would probably be Gnolls and Gorgons.
I'd replace one of them with Giant Spiders. It's very strange, but none of Homm games had Giant Spiders ! The spiders would have poison and ability to web enemy flyers.
Edit by ThE_HyDrA: Done it for you. 
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2XtremeToTake
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted July 13, 2005 08:37 PM |
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I've never liked lizardmen and serpent flies, but the gorgons, wyverns and basilisks should be classics. Also always loved the town (looks, feel and music) but hated the swamp land. Maybe because my heroes would move ~5 steps/day?
which is why i found pathfinding more readily avaiable to witches and beastmasters than any of the other classes.
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zhukaSS
Hired Hero
Dark Ronin
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posted July 14, 2005 07:50 AM |
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which is why i found pathfinding more readily avaiable to witches and beastmasters than any of the other classes.
hmm, pathfinding makes you go faster in swamp only if you got non fortress army.
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B0rsuk
Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted July 14, 2005 05:51 PM |
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You know what sucks ?
Yes, Fortress heroes seems to have Pathfinding more often than others.... SO WHAT ? ? Last time I checked most maps had little hard terrain. What's worse, if you select Fortress from "Random town", forget your "easier pathfinding" advantage. You'll most likely start on grass/dirt anyway.
Most maps are Fortress-unfriendly from terrain perspective.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted July 15, 2005 12:54 AM |
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Hi! i'm back.
there is a thread about this, and i hope that that the fortress is back. i liked it as a town, it was well built, and exept for looking a bit odd, it was cool
(pluss it had wyvrens. )
there is a swamp terrain in all of the games, so i am hoping they include the swamp's home base. it would be a good thing for expanision packs if it does not make it into the main game.
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Campaigner
Hired Hero
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posted July 15, 2005 09:06 PM |
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The Fortress was the most boring town of all time. Its creatures didn't had any charater, the town music sucked, the swamp music was so boring that my mindstate became zombielike. The creatures were boring to play with (Castle all the way )
And even if they would do 9 towns I would much rather see all the other towns and the Forge
My Forge would be a steamtech type of town with industrious dwarves that have golems, cannons, flying machines and muskets. See Ethrics town idea on CH to see what I mean.
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nebula
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 23, 2005 02:48 PM |
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Shut up
Shut up........... Campaigner, don't talk in places where your nose obviously doesn't belong.
This is a haven for the Fortress Towns Lovers We dont need CRITICS like u .
On the other hand i kind of a fortress Fanatic 1 of the main reasons i like reptiles.
And yes i'm REBUKING u for making such a blasphemous comment.
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vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted July 23, 2005 10:32 PM |
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Edited By: vlaad on 23 Jul 2005
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Shut up........... Campaigner, don't talk in places where your nose obviously doesn't belong.
This is a haven for the Fortress Towns Lovers We dont need CRITICS like u .
On the other hand i kind of a fortress Fanatic 1 of the main reasons i like reptiles.
And yes i'm REBUKING u for making such a blasphemous comment.
Nebula, you bully!
If you don't like someone's opinion, don't flame them personally; instead, say that you strongly disagree with them and give your reasons.
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted July 23, 2005 10:45 PM |
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The Fortress was the most boring town of all time. Its creatures didn't had any charater, the town music sucked, the swamp music was so boring that my mindstate became zombielike. The creatures were boring to play with
I strongly disagree with everything you wrote here.
The Fortress was one of more exciting towns to play with; it was often underrated by beginners because of the lack of magic and powerful level 7 creature. However, expert haste and teleport made Fortress units one of the deadliest armies and showed hydras' full potential. If one likes Fortress, it's probably because of its creatures. They had A LOT OF character, with their unique speciall skills. As far as I remember, the music theme was quite exciting, too.
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nebula
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 24, 2005 06:25 AM |
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Vlaad , you're right i should'nt bully people.
I should push people around on their .... you know what.
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Unded_Champion
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 25, 2005 08:58 AM |
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Fortress was a good town if used correctly, yes to newcomers it would seem like a crappy town but i hav grown to respect it, many of tha creatures have good abilities that can turn tha tide of any battle, Dragon Fly's fast speed and ability to move basically anywhere and weaken which can help alot, u can employ them strategically as they are not known for their damage by attackign their whole stack with them, thus weakening their entire army, Mighty gorgons for their Deathgaze which can really help out .. especially on lvl 7 creatures well basically u should use tha gorgons on tha stronger units to make sure it deathgazes 4 dragons instead of 4 centaurs, basilisks wid stone gaze can take a unit out of battle for awhile, which can hugely turn tha tide ... wyverns a really good lvl 6 unit very reliable: can fly, poison attack and do good damage and have HP. I always liked Hydra's, this game had no difference, they were awesome for big fights, cuz eventually they'd have to gang up on tha hydra at one time or another (unless they pelted and killed em wid range) but styll he could attack all around him without retaliation which is a plus times 2. The only REAL problem i had with this town is that their archers were lacking, their lizardmen even in numbers could fell down to one of the bottom of the list, if they had a special ability they might have been great but alas they dont, so thats really only downfall. Along with tha creatures, Fortress lives upto its name, against sieges they can be a pain to take down, as if u can build 2 structures which help out your hero by adding +2 bonuses to ur hero
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B0rsuk
Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted July 29, 2005 06:10 PM |
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Yes, lizardmen are weak, but at least they're fairly tough for their level. If you recruit heaps of lizardmen, they're not going to die so fast like Wolf R(a)iders. (Not that WR don't deal nice damage, they just die quickly).
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vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted July 29, 2005 07:15 PM |
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