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angelito
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posted February 15, 2006 09:41 PM

Was for sure my last video i posted here...lol


incredible....
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Xarfax111
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posted February 15, 2006 10:31 PM

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You can call it funny but the child displayed serious shock. It wasn't a case of him getting jolted and giggling about it.

The reaction kid had from the computer was clearly quite painful. You can see who the kid ran to when in fright (trust).

I see nothing funny in a parent using a child's trust to inflict pain, and being amused by it.

If you imagine yourself in the same situation as that kid, of course you wouldn't have that kind of fright, and if you did it would indeed be amusing.

I think it's that kind of amusement that turns trusting kids into cynical adults, who get off on doing that to others, to feel ok about how frightened and hurt they were when it was done to them.


I agree with Valery in every single word..i couldnt have said it better.

One Question Angelina: Do you treat your children the same way??????? Would you think that would be ok if it was your own kid???????
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2XtremeToTake
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posted February 15, 2006 10:31 PM

Ugh I can't watch it for some reason..someone explain in detail what happened.

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posted February 15, 2006 10:54 PM
Edited by angelito on 16 Feb 2006

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I agree with Valery in every single word..i couldnt have said it better.

One Question Angelina: Do you treat your children the same way??????? Would you think that would be ok if it was your own kid???????


Itīs really unbelievable. Iīm pretty sure, everyone who is posting in that direction does not have an own child!
I do have a daughter (15) and i DID that trick on her. She was scared like hell and even wanted to kick me in the first 3 seconds, then she started to laugh like hell and immediately shouted to her mum to come to the comp, coz there is a really cool game she should try out..
I did that with other persons aswell (younger and older). No1 turned into a massmurderer so far, no1 suicided, no1 is in hospital and no1 died of that.
So please all of you professional psychologists, get out of your room, have a break from 25 hours of internet per day and look how things turn in reallife instead of statings things which come just come out of your fantasy and have nothing to do with what happens in reallife.

And btw Xarfax, as i mentioned (not only once) before, this is the last warning. Spell my name correct, coz calling me with a female name is a personal insult (which could turn me into a serial killer perhaps...).
Iīm sure u know about the CoC....
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posted February 15, 2006 10:55 PM

I somehow doubt it`s that boy`s parent that filmed this... anyway he`s a right bastard in either case.

Also, I`d like to ask Valeriy not to use word cynical in the sense he did.
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Xarfax111
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posted February 16, 2006 12:54 AM

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I agree with Valery in every single word..i couldnt have said it better.

One Question Angelina: Do you treat your children the same way??????? Would you think that would be ok if it was your own kid???????


Itīs really unbelievable. Iīm pretty sure, everyone who is posting in that direction does not have an own child!
I do have a daughter (15) and i DID that trick on her. She was scared like hell and even wanted to kick me in the first 3 seconds, then she started to laugh like hell and immediately shouted to her mum to come to the comp, coz there is a really cool game she should try out..
I did that with other persons aswell (younger and older). No1 turned into a massmurder so far, no1 suicided, no1 is in hospital and no1 died of that.
So please all of you professional psychologists, get out of your room, have a break from 25 hours of internet per day and look how things turn in reallife instead of statings things which come just come out of your fantasy and have nothing to do with what happens in reallife.

And btw Xarfax, as i mentioned (not only once) before, this is the last warning. Spell my name correct, coz calling me with a female name is a personal insult (which could turn me into a massmurder perhaps...).
Iīm sure u know about the CoC....


First of all: Stop threatening me with a CoC.. calling you angelina is just a little fun, and not worth to cry for CoC ...its just not the same league. I really wonder why u think an approx. 5 year old boy should be treated like this, while you are so thin-skinned if i call you angelina. If this is worth for being penalized then aculias wouldve been banned thousand times for calling me names ...and those were times harder then u been called angelina. Stop acting like a girl when it comes to you. Second: I didnt know that i hurt your fluffy feelings by calling you angelina, and havent seen any of your warnings before. So before more tears drop by i stop calling you angelina.

On one hand YOU cant handle being called angelina and on the other you think its ok to give a little boy such a schock. You know that there is a reason why little kids are not allowed to see horror. One thing which is totally laughable is when a Moderator of an Internet Forum want to tell others to get a real life...sorry, thats totally laughable.


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Valeriy
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posted February 16, 2006 01:09 AM

Ugh... didn't think it would come to this.

Let's not say things that people find insulting when they ask us not to.

Due to my name, people who are not Russian often mistake me for a female online, or people in RL call me a female version of my name because they don't understand the difference. I think at first the mistake is ok, but if they continue deliberately it is insulting.

I think we should agree that we disagree about whether doing scary computer jokes to children is ok.

Angelito says that his daughter was scared for 3 seconds and was laughing afterwards. This is clearly not what happens on this particular video - 15 or 20 seconds later the kid is still shocked. In my opinion, given these facts, it was ok for your daughter, but it was not ok for the kid on this video.

What I ask is that we discuss our opinions without calling people female names or telling them to get a life - there's no respect in either of those.
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posted February 16, 2006 01:53 AM

Honestly speaking, that trick shouldn't have been played on the little kid, it may traumatize him for life.

That trick can be played on children maybe 12 and above because they are probably old enough to understand it's a prank, even though they would get frightened at first. If i were looking at that screen, I would also get frightened.
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angelito
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posted February 16, 2006 01:25 PM

Perhaps those of u who think this boy is shocked for his life, should try to get an info from a psychologist or even read some books about these things.
There even does exist an official test (by psychologist), where parents can find out if there child is self-conscious or anxious. (Even BBC showed that on tv!). In such a test, the child (normaly in the age of 2-4!!) are sitting on the arm of their father or mother. Then they get distracted by another person calling their name. While the child isnīt looking at its parents, the father / mother puts on a horrormask and calls her child to look back again. Now there are different reactions. Some kids start to cry, some other just look and donīt say anything, others look behind the mask coz they are interested. None of these kids have a traumata after that. You know why? Coz they are not alone at that point. They get explained the whole thing immediatley, so they can understand what went on there. And the same happens with that boy in the video. If u let him alone with that scary moment, where no1 is there to help AND to explain what happened, he will stay scary a long time.
Same happens with horrormovies. As long as u watch them with your kids and talk with them afterwards, how the special effetcs were made and so on, no kid will have any problems (the first 1 or 2 movies may be scary, but afterwards, they are just funny), the opposit is true, they loose their anxiousnes. They get scared (like we grown ups get aswell, in the case a movie is very quiet, and all of a sudden u here a BIG BANG), but never anxious.
My daughter watches horrormovies since she is 8 or 9 (together with me). As far as i know, she hasnīt killed any person so far....and she thinks Freddy and Michael Myers are lamers..



And about the insults, Val stated it and it was said in the Stiven issue aswell.
Not the insulting person judges if something is an insult, but the insulted person does
This has something to do with respect.
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tigris
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posted February 16, 2006 03:09 PM

can someone close this thread?

I really think this subject has been overrrated and people have exagerated enough on it.
Lol and Xarfax "the sensitive" gave me a god laugh.
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posted February 16, 2006 03:25 PM

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This is clearly not what happens on this particular video - 15 or 20 seconds later the kid is still shocked.

Then it is safe to say that he won't survive high school.
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Consis
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posted February 16, 2006 03:31 PM

Oh?

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Iīm pretty sure, everyone who is posting in that direction does not have an own child!

My son = 7 years old, daughter = 5 years old, daughter = 1.11 years old, I babysit a 1.11 years old little boy. The boy's mother is soon to give birth to a girl (which I will soon be caring for) in March.
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Lord_Crusader
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posted February 16, 2006 06:27 PM

well just for the record I find the game that the kid was playing...

http://www.winterrowd.com/maze.htm



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TheRealDeal
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posted February 16, 2006 07:56 PM

Well i've watched like a hundred of those things and i still get scared (if it's a new one) But i ALWAYS! send them along to other friends afterwards..

It wasn't nice to do it to such a young child.. but can the melodramatics.. I doubt that this child will go crazy on everyone. If thats what it takes to become a coldhearted killer, then why haven't i killed anyone yet? Seriously, why?


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Valeriy
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posted February 16, 2006 09:12 PM
Edited by Valeriy on 16 Feb 2006

What interests me is why some of you are so upset that some of us think the joke is very nasty for some children. Who is oversensitive is a good question to ask here. I think you need to get over the fact that differing opinions exist and that some people don't think your jokes are funny.

Angelito, if you are knowledgeable in psychology you should also have tolerance for people disagreeing with you, without having to undermine them and their life experience. (I'm not saying that Xar namecalling was appropriate either).

Clearly some think this joke is funny, some think it's sick and immoral. We don't all have to think the same, do we?
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angelito
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posted February 16, 2006 09:37 PM

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What interests me is why some of you are so upset that some of us think the joke is very nasty for some children. Who is oversensitive is a good question to ask here. I think you need to get over the fact that differing opinions exist and that some people don't think your jokes are funny.

Angelito, if you are knowledgeable in psychology you should also have tolerance for people disagreeing with you, without having to undermine them and their life experience. (I'm not saying that Xar namecalling was appropriate either).

Clearly some think this joke is funny, some think it's sick and immoral. We don't all have to think the same, do we?


Very true Val....no problem for me to have a different opinion...but making out a drama of that is what i donīt get....and thatīs a difference.....think of that..
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Valeriy
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posted February 16, 2006 10:05 PM

What do you mean by making a drama out of it?
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2XtremeToTake
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posted February 16, 2006 10:19 PM

Again..Can someone tell me in detail what happened? I cannot watch the video..

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Xarfax111
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posted February 16, 2006 10:37 PM

Some do have a weird argumentation here...smth like "oh common it wont make him a massmurder". What? Where is the argument in this? You peeps think its ok to treat your own kid (less then 6 years old) like this? Well good luck then.

In my opinion this "dad, brother or whatever" is still acting unacceptable. And not only that...he seems to be proud about it.

The idea behind this trick is that the tricked person is having his full concentration on the screen. Normally children can "block" such bad experiences, but in this case it gets unfiltered into his mind, and hes definately NOT NOT NOT old enough to handle with this experience. If u dont get that, then u do have my sorrow.

It simply dont suit together...as soon as it comes to your person angelito you cant even handle being called angelina..and you are above 30.

Sorry thats makes me laugh hard.

Uuuwuuuh hes soo mean he calls me angelina, uuuwuuuh lets blah about CoC. You are such a bunny.
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angelito
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posted February 16, 2006 11:03 PM

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.....Uuuwuuuh hes soo mean he calls me angelina, uuuwuuuh lets blah about CoC. You are such a bunny.


Lol...yes...this way of talking really sounds grown up..
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