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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Spell "Fear"
Thread: Spell "Fear" This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV / NEXT»
AlexSpl
AlexSpl


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted April 11, 2014 12:02 AM

I, too, did a small research. Indeed, you need the RoE v1.2 to see this spell. I guess, the developers wanted to fix the bug, because of which one couldn't get Air and Earth Elemental spell from pyramids (you cannot get them in versions earlier than 1.2, check it yourself), and occasionally allowed Fear to appear in the game (as far as I remember, these three spells have sequential in-game numbers (IDs).


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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted January 23, 2017 01:16 PM

fear spell

AlexSpl said:
I, too, did a small research. Indeed, you need the RoE v1.2 to see this spell. I guess, the developers wanted to fix the bug, because of which one couldn't get Air and Earth Elemental spell from pyramids (you cannot get them in versions earlier than 1.2, check it yourself), and occasionally allowed Fear to appear in the game (as far as I remember, these three spells have sequential in-game numbers (IDs).



Can you please share somewhere your .exe file so we can cast this spell too?
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Evaline
Evaline


Known Hero
posted January 23, 2017 01:30 PM
Edited by Evaline at 14:08, 23 Jan 2017.

Louis_Cyphre said:
Can you please share somewhere your .exe file so we can cast this spell too?

1. It is impossible to cast this spell (unless disassembling and reverse engeneering). You can sometimes see it by conquering pyramids.
2. No need to share anything. You should install original Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia (v 1.0, released in February 1999). If You don't have it then You're out of luck. Then update Your RoE v1.0 installation using official RoE Patch v1.2

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Pol
Pol


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posted January 23, 2017 02:33 PM

The spell was removed before game release, similarly like negative luck. And was overlooked in pyramids in first versions, afterwards it was patched.

There somewhere on the net was an interview with 3DO explaining it.

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted January 23, 2017 03:30 PM
Edited by Louis_Cyphre at 15:32, 23 Jan 2017.

Evaline said:
Louis_Cyphre said:
Can you please share somewhere your .exe file so we can cast this spell too?

1. It is impossible to cast this spell (unless disassembling and reverse engeneering). You can sometimes see it by conquering pyramids.
2. No need to share anything. You should install original Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia (v 1.0, released in February 1999). If You don't have it then You're out of luck. Then update Your RoE v1.0 installation using official RoE Patch v1.2


Read the second page of this thread. AlexSpl made it possible, i just want that .exe file in order to test it. http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=18325&PID=394092#focus

I've found 1st version of RoE and patched to 1.2
image of that spell in pyramid:  https://pp.vk.me/c836130/v836130856/1adc3/d8_qADBxOHc.jpg


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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


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posted January 23, 2017 04:40 PM

Are there any other spells that are disabled?

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted January 23, 2017 04:51 PM

EnergyZ said:
Are there any other spells that are disabled?


Nope

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AlexSpl
AlexSpl


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Supreme Hero
posted January 23, 2017 06:49 PM

First, enable Fear in SPTRAITS.TXT. I hope, you know how to do just that (use MMArchive).

Second, replace the following bytes in h3demo.exe:

134BCF: 0B -> 04
1379BF: 24 -> 11

Enjoy

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Supreme Hero
posted January 23, 2017 07:29 PM

Are remaining graphics available in Heroes complete lods?
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AlexSpl
AlexSpl


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Supreme Hero
posted January 23, 2017 08:22 PM

Yes, Fear resources (animation and sound) are available in Complete Edition, though very spell was replaced with Titan's Lightning Bolt.

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted January 23, 2017 08:45 PM
Edited by Louis_Cyphre at 20:50, 23 Jan 2017.

AlexSpl said:
Yes, Fear resources (animation and sound) are available in Complete Edition, though very spell was replaced with Titan's Lightning Bolt.


Thanks for links of that code! Should i just replace those zero's in SPTRAITS.TXT with actual chances? And delete (disable) word in the title of the spell? And is there any chance to replace Titan's Bolt with that spell in Complete edition?

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AlexSpl
AlexSpl


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Supreme Hero
posted January 23, 2017 09:05 PM

You have to assign it a magic school (or several, if you wish to) as well.

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AlexSpl
AlexSpl


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Supreme Hero
posted January 23, 2017 09:21 PM

Quote:
And is there any chance to replace Titan's Bolt with that spell in Complete edition?

It's quite possible, provided you are capable of writing your own code. I failed to find original one or encountered a nullsub. Can't recall now.

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted January 23, 2017 10:05 PM

AlexSpl said:
Quote:
And is there any chance to replace Titan's Bolt with that spell in Complete edition?

It's quite possible, provided you are capable of writing your own code. I failed to find original one or encountered a nullsub. Can't recall now.


Just tried hex editing and everything worked great! Thanks a lot. However, why there is no effect? It has animation of that death stare, it has that Fear.wav sound. But enemy can still move and even hit. A Bug?

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AlexSpl
AlexSpl


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Supreme Hero
posted January 23, 2017 10:20 PM

According to Sav, the spell wasn't implemented. I think, NWC programmers just commented its code. Yet, if I'm right, there's still a chance to recover this code, as Ubi has, at least, the RoE sources.

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted January 27, 2017 12:09 PM

by the way. What did you use for disassemble? Or how did you get to the code?

Also.
I've found code for RoE
141467 07 > 11

if you change 07 to 1B you will enable Reverse Clone

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
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posted January 27, 2017 12:26 PM

Reverse Clone, what is that?!

Can other spells be reversed?

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted January 27, 2017 12:48 PM

phoenix4ever said:
Reverse Clone, what is that?!

Can other spells be reversed?


Creates a duplicate of the selected enemy stack and sets under your control.

To be honest i don't know if it's possible to reverse other spells
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AlexSpl
AlexSpl


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Supreme Hero
posted January 27, 2017 01:05 PM

Quote:
if you change 07 to 1B you will enable Reverse Clone

Don't confuse original spells with those you have slightly modified and renamed. There's no such a spell as Reverse Clone.

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Louis_Cyphre
Louis_Cyphre


Hired Hero
posted January 27, 2017 02:24 PM

AlexSpl said:
Quote:
if you change 07 to 1B you will enable Reverse Clone

Don't confuse original spells with those you have slightly modified and renamed. There's no such a spell as Reverse Clone.


there is no doubt in that Yea, i spent some time to modify def files and everything worked great

Once again, so how did you get to those codes?
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