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supersonic
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posted October 01, 2006 10:21 AM bonus applied.

La donna est mobile... At least I think so...

Well, I just found out I totally don't understand women. I mean, maybe there's something wrong with me. I try to look at various things from their point of view. It is just really hard, because basically women aren't men. . Everything would be much simpler if women were just thinking the other way. Or maybe if men were thinking the other way.

Why do girls always tend to like the boys that sooner or later will hurt them? What do you see in that confident face, which for me looks more like an SS (fascist) face smiling, because it just killed someone? What do you like about their talk, full of swearings and not always proper? Why are you impressed by their rebel style? Why do you laugh when they hurt someone? WHY?

A few days ago, a girl came over to me, full of tears. She just told me about one of those guys, who treat girls like thrash. I listened to everything, from the beginning to the end. She told me how masculine the guy seemed at the beginning (that made me feel bad - am I not masculine?). Then, she told me how impressed she was by the guy's attitude (eg, **** everything). And then, she told me that the guy started playing with her and was very bitter and finally dumped her. After all, I helped her, we had a talk and I hoped that this is my chance. AND? After few days she found another jerk. So the cycle goes on. And on. And I am pretty tired of actually being nice! Is it possible that you can be tired from being nice to women? Maybe I should just start treating them badly, hoping that the rule works for me too.

I thought that girls might find me boring. But well... is it that I should start dressing in black from head to toes and walk strangely? Should I become one of those guys that you never know what they have in pockets? Should I make people fear me? Will that make women impressed? I will never try that. I'd rather be a virgin in my 80s than hurt people.

Another time, I was being slapped by a women in front of my friends (well, yeah, i think it was my fault ).  After school, when we were all leving, she gave me a quick wink and a face that said "I wanna have a talk". And yes, we went in some private place. And she started saying sorry and I said sorry... And we hugged. . And that was all. How can you slap someone and swear at him and hug him after a few hours in a school toilet?

Then I watched "40-year old virgin". And yeah, that guy was nice to women and he ended being a virgin. But finally, after a long time, he found someone. Now, I made some questions, which I cannot answer. Was that women not "womenish", because she started dating the guy? I mean, he's a stereotypical kind of nice guy. So basically 0% of naughtiness. So what did she find cool about him? I mean, in movies, women say "You are nice, I like that, bla bla...". In real life, that would never happen, because the guy wasn't the rebel type. Or maybe the woman was one of few "refined women", which are one step further in sexual evolution?

I am totally confused. What should I do to
1. Understand women.
2. BE with a woman.

Everyone's opinion is highly appreciated. Including women's opinions.
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kookastar
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posted October 01, 2006 10:53 AM
Edited by kookastar at 11:58, 01 Oct 2006.

You know I have asked myself this very question.  In my early teens I think I always went for the a-hole.  I have often thought about why?  There were 'nice' guys, but I didn't end up with them because I was too infactuated by the others.

I can't speak for all women, but I will tell you what I think - although even my own thoughts haven't really settled anywhere yet...

1. A puzzle?
I think that we think we see the 'good' in these guys, and have some uncontrolable urge to be with them to bring this out.  We think that no one else really understands them, and we only focus on the good.  We want to believe in this goodness, it facinates us, so we want to be close to them to somehow catch the answer.  {it's almost like a mothering thing...}

2. Self esteem.
We think that this is how we deserve to be treated.

3. Adventure
Teen years are about adventure, and maybe we see this in the 'bad guy'.  Just like experimenting with drugs and sex, it is an adventure.

4. We are completely and totally hopelessly lost in what we think is love.
Maybe it is lust.  At that age, when you are female and you feel lust - society somehow has put it in your brain that this is a feeling of love.  I mean, feelings of lust can overpower your brain, and you think it is love...

wtf am I trying to say

Lost in love.  We will do anything and take pretty much anything for love.  

5. We don't want to hurt the 'nice guys'.   I don't know, if I had my time over I know who what I'd be doing...

 I need to think about this more...

All I know is when you are 30, if you are still single, the chicks will be lining up

- A Question.  Are you going after the 'nice' girls yourself?  Or are there girls waiting for someone like you to come into their life.  I am sure there are some chicks not as crazy as I was.

I totally missed your question LOL
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I am totally confused. What should I do to
1. Understand women.
2. BE with a woman


Be with as many different women as you can {not talking about sex...}
You may never truly understand them.  I forgot to add hormones and emotional instability there somewhere...
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antipaladin
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posted October 01, 2006 11:13 AM

Well my expearnce tell it differntly.
I got bored with teenaged girls rather easy...that too much of easyminded isent for me,lol just like you said...they cant aprciate them selfs good nought,to date a good guy.
I date an older class,like my corrent lover,she is 8 years older then me,i was corting her for 2 weeks before she fell for me,she also says im the best kisser ever,but that just add my ego a big bonor .

Men are from mars , Girls are from venus,They are never the same..

3 Major things to learn about women:
_one:Funny is importent if you cant make a women leught your destined to die virgon.
_two:They think knowdlge in what they like is sexy,find there habbits,study it and show it off to them,you can build "inCommon" things and thuse create chemistery between yourself and the victom.
_three:Trust.Girls dont give it to anyone,not those who have good self esteem,but those will be who you like,i bet,unless you want a one time sex expearnce,go for least secure girl,but Never lie.
They hate it so bad a program of corting of a mounth might go to drain over slightest lie.

BE SURE TO SHOW YOU DONT CARE girls like mystree,they like enigma,if you are talked,talk back,do not start convo yourself,however once talked,do not stop easily.

DONT TRY TO PICK UP SIGNSthere misleading allways.

And last rule of dating:
Women are on constat examing of your skills,may it be kissing,talking,or even eating,if you fail at there expections dont accept a good relitinship,you'd be dumped in minuts.

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posted October 01, 2006 11:36 AM
Edited by kookastar at 13:01, 01 Oct 2006.

Wow Boris

Some good advice there {the humour and getting to know what they are interested in}

I thought of another reason why we go for the 'bad' guys...

Challenge and status

Challenge - To get the guy to fall for you.  It is a game kinda.

Status {wasn't me though...} - girls sometimes go for 'popular' guys to give themselves self esteem.  They think that if they are that guy's girl then they are worth more.
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posted October 01, 2006 11:41 AM

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BE SURE TO SHOW YOU DONT CARE girls like mystree,they like enigma,if you are talked,talk back,do not start convo yourself,however once talked,do not stop easily.

DONT TRY TO PICK UP SIGNSthere misleading allways.

And last rule of dating:
Women are on constat examing of your skills,may it be kissing,talking,or even eating,if you fail at there expections dont accept a good relitinship,you'd be dumped in minuts.


So are you saying that a "Hello, how was your day yesterday?" might be my doom? Should I become like an outcast not talking to anyone and just focusing on myself? That doesn't seem a good idea
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posted October 01, 2006 12:30 PM

First of all wook, you got a weakness: You're smart.

Being smart is a handicap because there are plenty of people out there who are not smart, and like a horse with this thingies by the side of their eyes, they run faster.

To counter your handicap you have to use it, that is, be smart. I have a short recipie that might help.

1. Work out at a gym or do sports to become more masculine.

As a smart person you usually think that people will like you cause your smart. Wrong. They cant see that your smart, so they compare you with others by physical attributes and behaviour. Your smartness is a hidden gift, and a surprise. It is extremely hard to use it for attracting someone, and if you find someone smart enough to like you because your smart, then u wont have to work for it anyway.

2. Don't be the listening friend of a girl you like. Its a cliche but usually true - once your in the friend category u lose your chance.

3. Conquer lots of resources. You cant just build in your castle, you have to conquer the map resources as well. You might lose some army but you will gain exp and more resources, armies grow back in time.

Thats basically it. And remember, a woman usually can have her choice among a few guys, and she usually picks the best one. That means to be picked you have to be the best one among the group of guys that are up for selection.

It's just like winning at h3. If you castle sit thinking about how to win, you will invariably lose. You have to get out there, with your army, and expand your empire by conquering the map and building your hero levels.  

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posted October 01, 2006 01:56 PM
Edited by TitaniumAlloy at 14:00, 01 Oct 2006.

It's not woock bjorn. It's woocks old avatar, it's supersonic



One thing that I find works is knowing how to talk to a girl often without being her friend, to get closer in a way that you want, and increase the sexual tension, is being kinda cocky, but in a joking way.


You can talk back to her, make her have those "you said WHAT" faces , be cocky, joke around with her, don't go too over the top and get her mad at you though, that's when you have to judge what's going too far.

She will want to kind of fight back in a joking way, but still, you'll still be talking and you'll get closer, and you'll be more like those badass guys you're talking about lol.

Les résultats sont super sexuelles
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posted October 01, 2006 02:13 PM

hmmm...

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I thought that girls might find me boring. But well... is it that I should start dressing in black from head to toes and walk strangely? Should I become one of those guys that you never know what they have in pockets? Should I make people fear me? Will that make women impressed? I will never try that. I'd rather be a virgin in my 80s than hurt people.


so thats why girls like me!
dressed in black --- check
walk strangely --- check
mystery pockets --- check
people fearing --- check
...it all makes sense now...

seriously though, most advice given here is sound ...especially the humour parts and of course confidence... if you don't have faith in yourself, others won't have faith in you... and no faith, means no girl ...you'll be in the friend list for all eternity
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antipaladin
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posted October 01, 2006 06:14 PM

lilth gave a big point i forget there,your self esteem,if there is something chicks hate is somone uncoolor trying to act cool without beliving he is one,and trust me they can sence it...


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So are you saying that a "Hello, how was your day yesterday?" might be my doom? Should I become like an outcast not talking to anyone and just focusing on myself? That doesn't seem a good idea  



not quite,i ment,if you see her by any chane,wait for her to say hallo first,if shes intersted she will,if shes not,you wont get her to intress,but make sure you dress up good enought to be noticed,have a unique feature. As for me ,im having a gotie and long dark hair.Chicks Dig long dark smooth hair and a gotie..
Not only it brings my mystree it makes my look like smething they didnt know before and it gives them curisity,"Whos he and whats hes story?"

Dont shy asking ideas from your frindes perents and a frinde-adult you trust.
If you think listeing to adults is dumb and they dont know a thing from there life its wrong,im a teen like you praphes abit older but regardless,the stigma is incorrect.

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2. Don't be the listening friend of a girl you like. Its a cliche but usually true - once your in the friend category u lose your chance.


Good point!

If you let them step on you you'd be there girlfrinde not the boyfrinde.Show her that your irreplacbull by NOT fallowing any command..Be abit of nasty+funny.


Last but not least HONESTY:
The most importent,be allways honest.You know howi hit or cort on chicks? i tell them the first thing thats comes in my mind from the buttem of the heart to face even if i just met her,thats brutally honest,but they apriciate it more then you think.

P.S. well thenks kooka as you can see im far more expearnced then TnT in that subjects,we isrALIENS are sex apealing..


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posted October 02, 2006 02:03 PM

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And last rule of dating:
Women are on constat examing of your skills,may it be kissing,talking,or even eating,if you fail at there expections dont accept a good relitinship,you'd be dumped in minuts.




This is so true. You have to be always on the ball, always remember everything. Have a mental checklist.



And the other thing that works well when you're like on the phone or msn or something is when they say oh i need to go... just be like "ok bye." instead of oh well have fun good luck talk to you soon blah blah blah. It'll leave an abrupt ending, with them thinking about you. works a charm.
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posted October 02, 2006 06:36 PM

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And the other thing that works well when you're like on the phone or msn or something is when they say oh i need to go... just be like "ok bye." instead of oh well have fun good luck talk to you soon blah blah blah. It'll leave an abrupt ending, with them thinking about you. works a charm.



LOL

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posted October 02, 2006 09:04 PM

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And the other thing that works well when you're like on the phone or msn or something is when they say oh i need to go... just be like "ok bye." instead of oh well have fun good luck talk to you soon blah blah blah. It'll leave an abrupt ending, with them thinking about you. works a charm.


Man I HATE this.  This is a good example of how to be one of those 'bastard' guys.

What happens is the girl will replay the phone conversation 1000 times in her head to figure out what she did wrong.  Once she identifies 4-5 possible slants on words, she will go through the reasons she said she had to get off the phone.

After examining this 100 times to see why that could have annoyed the guy, she will move on to the last time you were together in person, and the extra 5 grams she has put on her ass.

So by the time she talks to you next, she is a nervous wreck with worry and guilt  

That is why it works a charm.

It is

Oh - and if she has more self esteem, them maybe she will just think you are an a-hole and move on


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posted October 02, 2006 10:02 PM

Ok, that explains why I am single...

*takes notes*

Ooooh yea, baby! Now I am unstoppable after reading all those advices!!!

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antipaladin
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posted October 02, 2006 10:06 PM

well kooka,u might dissagree with me on this statment but i said it before and i'll say it again..

If a guy be too nice to a girl,he is a girlfrinde not a boyfrinde,he must draw a line showing,Nuha,if its gona be done its gona be done my law's,my lead,my way. Otherwise a girl thinks she can step on him once,twice,endlessly,and then a guy would say:"Dammn im sick of being your slave all i wanted to do is get a date" she obiusly responds:"WHat? i have no internset in you as a boyfrinde,we ware just frindes.."
I'm not excally know how does girls define whats boyfrinde metiriel and what is "frinde" metiriel but it has very much to do with impression,and that too nice thing.

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posted October 02, 2006 10:32 PM

I hope you guys don't think I am highjacking your thread here  It is great to hear how your brains work, I am just trying to show you some female thinking.  Are there any other chicks here to back me up/slam me.

I think it is hard to offer advice because what one girl finds attractive in a guy, another will find repelling.

Most of what has been said here makes sense.  I like bjorns analogy too

ANyway...

Girls can fall for friends, although not very likely unless there is some connection from the start.  My mother used to say... that boys and girls can't be friends it always leads to more heehee.  Sometimes I would agree, sometimes not.

I guess that I am too much of a romantic and think that if there is something there than you can feel it, pretty much straight away.  And if it's not there from the beginning, chances are it will never be.

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posted October 03, 2006 05:26 AM
Edited by TitaniumAlloy at 05:29, 03 Oct 2006.

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LOL

You're dastardly.

You bet.




Also another thing is hot women are used to men being all over them, compliments and that, if they are hot, have men trying to get their attention all the time. You don't want to fall under that catagory, of 'just another loser'.
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posted October 03, 2006 08:40 AM

yeah girls catoguriliese everything,so watch for that to

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posted October 05, 2006 06:09 PM

Ok, there's another thing.
Why do girls always walk in groups? Do you not feel secure while being alone? Is it some sort of prehistoric instinct? Well, I don't think I will find out soon . But anyway. How yo ask a girl while she is in that 'flock'? Whenever i get close, they laugh and that scares me off a bit . Should I just act confident and push away he rest of the 'flock' asking a girl and not caring about the rest?

???
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posted October 05, 2006 06:43 PM
Edited by TnT_Addict at 18:45, 05 Oct 2006.

Okay Sonnie it's time to pass my SOME of my wisdom to you the younger generation of womanizing pigs, it might be hard to believe at first but if you would trust me like you trust your... self then you would be happy with the results in the end.

1) First of all you need to find a place swarming with chicks, but not just chicks nonono... Hot chicks! A good place to find hot chicks could be for example: The shopping mall, the beach, music store when Justin Timberlakes new album comes out or in your case you can find some low number of them right in your school area roaming free.

2) You need to spy on them without being noticed for at least a couple of days (might take weeks ) in order to gain some very usefull information for later stages of the woockwooing process.

3) Use every given non living object as a good hiding place for example: bushes although beware of really dark ones (who knows what did or still goes on there ), toilets might sounds iffy but they sure contain the most private secrets within them, trash cans and my favourite crawling under tables to get that inner info...

4) Hot chicks do go around in groups (god only knows why!) so you need to get dirty and sneaky in order to break their alliance before hitting on one of them or you won't stand a chance when they are using the power of the three. It all depends on their intellect, if lets say they are cheerleaders all you need to do is point to the sky and say "Oh my gaaawwwwwdddd! A pink hippo is falling on us!" at least 2 of them would run for their lives while one of them would remain in her place still digesting what she just heard, that's when you make your move when she is confused and alone

5) Try... And I mean try really hard to look her in the eyes NOT at the HONKHONKS, I repeat NOT at the darn luscious HONKHONKS! For some reason there might be they get offended by it (go figure) Try complimenting her on her outfit, example: "Nice mini skirt, my mom has one but she can't pull it of like you do..." that should make her feel good about herself and then you need to compliment her looks, example: "Is your father a gardner?" she'll say no and then you say "Well how else then did he grow a beautiful flower like you" chicks dig those lines, they work every time.

6) When you are finally on your date, go somewhere she wants (do it for the honkhonks) be it something boring as ballet or birdwatching or going to the Zoo to look at some canadian birds and animals. Try not to fall asleep during the date itself and if you succeed in this tough task you may get something as a reward after that

Hope to see you with a hot chick by your side real soon Sonnie boy, with my advices you can't fail      
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posted October 05, 2006 10:31 PM

Today I almost killed myself in front of the whole school. Yeah, not literally, but still. TnT, thanks of reminding me of Justin.

Today, the whole school (mostly the girls) saw me dancing and moonwalking around singing like Timberlake. I had this weird attack of voice mutation and so my voice was kinda similar. The moonwalk and dancing? Well, might not be the best quality (at least I wasn't swinging my hands around ) My friend was Timbaland (well, his voice was, coz the guy was hiding so that noone saw him). I made girls laugh (positively), there was no tomato shooting, but some high-pitch screaming . Not from the boys of course .
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