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Famous Hero
posted November 16, 2006 06:25 PM

First RMG impressions

OK made 2 maps - 1 was without a template - result: a complete disaster !
A 70% empty map really bad looking map in any way possible , after missing few hurt bits i went back and tried one of the templates
result: much better yet quite avarage map i didn't go deeper into it like testing balance issues but things like an open unguarded hillfort really puzzles me i hope that can be fixed , still map was too empty yet almost ok.

So overall i'm abit disappointed with the early results (as in much things in this game over the time) but ofcourse as we all know homm3 generator wasn't much better either when it was first out its the fan made templates that made it as good as it is , maybe i missed it but i didn't see a template making guide again disappointing.

One more weird thing i might be missing something but looks like u can't select towns in rmg while generting in game but u can pick while generating using map editor ...
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insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted November 16, 2006 07:11 PM

h3 was so simple aesthetically, that rmg could exist

h5, i think they only relesed rmg cause of public demand. I dont blame them at all. Is simply impossible to replace human touch. Even an ugly handmade map is prettier than a generated.

Heh, so imagine the disaster in gameplay design...
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Prince_Legolas
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posted November 17, 2006 07:24 PM

Yes i believe RMG will be good with right templates,same like in Homm 3
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lord_crusader
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UHU!! supreme!
posted November 23, 2006 08:26 PM

well the maps looks like the h3 ones we need fan made templates... and a fixed rmg and I will be happy with this
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rethwen
rethwen


Adventuring Hero
posted November 24, 2006 04:56 AM

Dan anyone muscle JB to make more maps?  Maybe if we could hold his hamster hostage that would help.

Reth
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Adventuring Hero
posted November 24, 2006 04:58 AM

Oh lord I cannot spell.

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The Sync Bug Hunter
posted November 24, 2006 04:26 PM

Quote:
Oh lord I cannot spell.


But you can edit
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Famous Hero
posted November 25, 2006 07:24 PM

the RMG is similar to H3 RMG. The templates give it the same feel, good idea for Nival to preserve that.

Some bugs:

* can occassionally get around zone guards (seen once only so far)
* can sometimes tag mines without fighting guards (seen a lot)

The regular items dont seem to have misplaced guards. Often there might be a nearby free resource, but it appears intentional, since there is free items dumped all over the place.

Strong creature setting seems pretty easy, and given i'm a beginner at H5, maybe they need a Super Strong setting, or make some meaner templates.

One template design deliberately has ore/wood in a neighbouring zone, so you have to break into that area and find it (rather than use as an reason to restart).
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UHU!! supreme!
posted November 25, 2006 07:59 PM

I was wondering when midnight will enlight us with the RMG
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Famous Hero
posted November 25, 2006 10:23 PM

Yo midnight!

Any chance you managed to figure out how to make a template and put it so it appear in templates list ??
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Famous Hero
posted November 26, 2006 10:50 AM

i dont think it will be easy.

One interesting thing is there are 6 templates in generator not 5, even though only 5 are listed in the interface.

Z5V10
4Z9B3 - this is the undocumented one
8Z8K2
Z6K3
4Z4K1
Z7N2


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Famous Hero
posted November 26, 2006 11:39 AM

Quote:
i dont think it will be easy.

One interesting thing is there are 6 templates in generator not 5, even though only 5 are listed in the interface.

Z5V10
4Z9B3 - this is the undocumented one
8Z8K2
Z6K3
4Z4K1
Z7N2




Huh i'm not at home now to check but as i remmeber there were more then 6 (about 10-15)  templates when i generated using the map editor ..?
I'll check again if i remmeber falsly somehow when i get home..
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Famous Hero
posted November 28, 2006 02:54 AM

actually i think you're right, i gotta use the full template name. These are some i've found, might be more.
S1-2P2Z5V10
S1-3P2Z7N2
S1-4P2Z6K3
S1-4P2-4Z4K1
S3-6P2-4Z9B3

S1-3P2-8Z8K2_1
S3-5P2-8Z8K2_2
S4-7P2-8Z8K2_3
S5-10P2-8Z8K2_4

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jorko80
jorko80


Adventuring Hero
posted December 01, 2006 10:01 PM

Midnight Mix - the best compilation of templates I've played + Marathon again maid by Midnight

S5-10P2-8Z98K2_4 is the best template for heroes5 so far,it has some strong armies and even dragon utopias. The rest are just empty,almost nothing in the map. Even S5-10P2-8Z98K2_4 has only crypts,no buildings from the expansion. With only those templates the RMG is really weak and  not very interesting. It's strange also why is S5-10P2-8Z98K2_4 only available in the map editor and not in the game.
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Famous Hero
posted December 02, 2006 11:03 AM

thx for the vote on Midnight Mix I put a lot of work into that compilation.

I find playing the Nival templates a bit like Panic template, plenty of roads but not much big treasures to hit. Means if u get a bad start ur buggered, no lucky way to catch up unless u jump the opponents town (unlikely since u can hit a neutral and rehire in town just like in H3). Havent played that template u mentioned. S5-10P2-8Z8K2_4 has been the best for me so far.

Havent found any info anywhere on how to get into the templates. Guess we have to play the ones we got for a while. What concerns me more is the synch problems in multi, if that was fixed i'd be playing H5 randoms in multi already.
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Adventuring Hero
posted December 02, 2006 01:25 PM

S5-10P2-8Z8K2_4 - it's the same template I'm talking about. Sorry for the "9" mistake. And about the sync. , I played 5 games on random maps on XL-size+underground. Four of them were OK, and the fifth get the desync. bug. But if the 1st player checks if the game can be saved,then it's ok. On HOF, once you get desync. , you no longer can visit a treasure houses like crypts etc. When you enter such place,the other player gets kicked out of the game and if you load the autosave, you'll see that the "save game" is greyed and you can't press it.
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Famous Hero
posted December 19, 2006 12:25 PM

got S5-10P2-8Z8K2_4 listed when making a game. I couldnt see anything special i did to get it listed. The only wierd thing is that there were only 3 templates listed, and this was one of them. Playing it now with Rych.
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Supreme Hero
posted December 19, 2006 06:35 PM

And no de-synchs in 4 games....which is nice.
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Jinxer
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posted December 19, 2006 11:42 PM

Tryed my first random last night.... we are into about week 4 and isnt to bad....around town was almost nothing the farther away from town the more stuff.... we chose medium monsters and was kinda easy ish... anyone know if hard monsters are about right?  or are they too tuff to actually get fighting first week etc.

So far my biggest complaint is that in my area I have 6 Leaf of CLovers so far... isnt this damn generator smart enough spread them out a bit.  Rethwen says he has none in his area lol

And took us forever and a day to get into game while loading...

more opinions to come......

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Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
posted December 20, 2006 05:30 AM

Pandoras boxes - I hope they put them in.. these are the good part of any treasure template!

Creature generators.. very tough.. a luxury rather than a game breaker..

Artifacts.. sure, they work.

Resources.. ya that would be nice. Especially since gold is so precious now.

I dont like h5 tho.. maybe some day..

Good with the rmg tho!
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