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Geny
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posted December 31, 2006 10:21 PM |
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So we all come to the conclusion I pointed out in the beginning:
Academy is the Middle East 2000-3000 thousands years ago - the cradle of life, the center of trade etc. etc.
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Light_Knight
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posted December 31, 2006 10:39 PM |
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To: CharlesA
So you are talking about the pre-colombian of the Central-America and the andine people.
But you must remember there is many others peoples who lift in the South-America:
-Tupis,Jeres and Ianomamis in Brazil
-Tupi-Guarani, in Paraguai
-Araucanos,in Argentina
-Caribes, in Guiana.
You should research better in the next time.
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SS
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posted December 31, 2006 11:50 PM |
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To VokialBG, when I said middle east I was refering to the Persia. I am kinda full of the Persian History OF 2500 years. I in order to show some respect to people from fallen Persiam or Ottoman Empire, I used term Middle East just to refer to Academy. Like persians diod have elephants in their ranks, terrain it deser, Buliding do look a like and names do match. Inaddition some units are from the persian myth like magi.
To light_Knight:
I have no Idea what are you talking about?
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Light_Knight
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Paladin of the Peace.
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posted January 01, 2007 12:03 AM |
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Not for you, SS, sorry.
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted January 01, 2007 01:00 AM |
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To VokialBG: You are doing some pretty good research !  Its awesome what you find  But well i just don't see how Fortress can be Denmark, Norway, sweden, finland? We have no dwarves! (okay maybe some  ) I know they are in the Nordic mythology but they were not spoken much of, and well they have kilts on, little cute kilts..
So here is another teory: Fortress = Scotland or part of it... Then next to scotland lies: Ireland (or almost next to scotland), Ireland are actully: Northen Island and Southen Ireland. Well Northen Ireland = dungeon, Why? well small little area (and dungeon do not have a huge area of land) then the Sylvan can have Southen Ireland, beautiful nature and all that!
And yes i like your great teory on the Academy being: India, you got good arguments for it...  Good job..
Hmm? Okay Dracula game from Balkana (or what that is called), but well the buildings is not looking enough a like to convince me... Though the vampire thing is rather good thing...
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alcibiades
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posted January 01, 2007 01:23 AM |
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To - well, everybody: I'm not talking about architecture or culture - I'm talking about geography! Look at the map: The shape of the Seven Cities country exactly matches northern Africa - and it's even a desert country. Someone on the previous page made an overlay of the Earth map with the Ashan map, but as I see it, he used the wrong scales: Rather than fitting the Silver Cities over southern Europe, it should be placed over northern Africa. That would also fit with the wastelands of Heresh being around Middle East.
As for the Academy Architecture, it's Maurish in style - which you will find everywhere from Spane to Middle East - and in between. Compare the Academy buildings to Dome of Rock of Jerusalem for an example:
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emilsn
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posted January 01, 2007 10:50 AM |
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Well if you look of some of the fotos from the other page of the indian buildings they look a lot like academy's ...
VokialBG You said something about the many armed creature was the god in indian and actully, but if i remember my indian culture right their god is actully look like a(now read right ): Naga. So maybe you are wrong? who knows
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cookie
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*cookie magic*
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posted January 01, 2007 06:00 PM |
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Edited by cookie at 18:01, 01 Jan 2007.
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Don't flame but is Elrath=Jesus/GOD since the priests of the holy church have these crucifixes..... 
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted January 01, 2007 06:16 PM |
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NOOOOOO!!!!!
How can you say that?!?! That's blasphemy!!! You shall burn in hell for such ungodly ideas!!!...
j/k
Elrath is not GOD he's one of the gods. True that thing in the priests' hands resembles the crucifix a bit, which makes sense because there is a paralel (sp?) between haven and Europe in times of the inquisition. However if you look closely you'll see that it's not exactly a crucifix, but a symbol of the Holy Griffin Empire - a cross with a circle around it.
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GenieLord
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posted January 01, 2007 06:43 PM |
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Alcibiades, I can promiss you that this style of structure was in the middle east just before over then 1000 year.
(As Geny said  )
The dome of the rock is really over then 1000 years old, I don't remeber when exacly it was built.
And this building is exactly the Gremlins' Dwelling, Gremlins workshop.
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emilsn
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posted January 01, 2007 06:57 PM |
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Do you really think that it looks like the gremlin workshop? Okay there is a "bump" on it but err? nothing else?
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SS
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posted January 02, 2007 12:38 AM |
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Quote:
Not for you, SS, sorry.
light_knight are you saying that was for somebody else?
To GenieLord:
"The dome of the rock is really over then 1000 years old, ..."
it is 1500.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dome_of_the_rock
To Cookie:
"Don't flame but is Elrath=Jesus/GOD since the priests of the holy church have these crucifixes..... "
Elrath is a god ( just as Geny said ) and not a person but a dragon, so no.
And to all:
about the India_Middle east comarison to Academy it is better to compare them to persia dring the ages in which Persia conquered india and through their conquest some persian words and Architecture was mixed in to india culture.
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SS
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posted January 02, 2007 12:41 AM |
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here guys vist this site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persia#Turkic_rule_.281037.E2.80.931219.29
"Taj Mahal, built by many Iranian architects is another example of Iranian culture outside Iran." from the artical in section:" Turkic rule (1037–1219)"
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bixie
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my common sense is tingling!
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posted January 02, 2007 10:40 AM |
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sorrow_A, have you ever been to John o'groutes in scotland. it is, in the winter, frozen over.
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VokialBG
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posted January 02, 2007 10:46 AM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 10:51, 02 Jan 2007.
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OK, ok, ok.... I think we all know for the other fractions
My new Academy theory:
Academy is a mess! The only town in HoMM5 but it is a mess!
1. Inferno are demons, Haven- humans.....Academy are wizards? Yeeees the heroes are wizards but the Gremlins? The Titans? In Inferno all creatures are demons in Havem all creatures are humans (-Griffin) End here in Academy only 1 unit is a mage (maybe + the Genie)!
2. The names of the wizards are from Persia:
Cyrus the Great
3. But Persia is not arab country!
4. But the architecture is Middle East and Intia...
------------ Ok nothing new to here in my theory ----------------
5. The titans are from greek mythology, no titans in the Middle East!
6. The titan's dwelling is in greek style!
7. In architecture, the gargoyle (from the French gargouille, originally the throat or gullet, cf. Latin gurgulio, gula, and similar words derived from root gar, to swallow, the word representing the gurgling sound of water; Ital. doccione; Ger. Ausguss, Wasserspeier) are the carved terminations to spouts which convey water away from the sides of buildings.
Gargoyles are mostly grotesque figures. Statues representing gargoyle-like creatures are popular sales items, particularly in goth and New Age retail stores.
A chimera, or grotesque is a similar type of sculpture that does not work as a waterspout and serves only an ornamental or artistic function. These are popularly referred to as gargoyles.
8. In Jewish folklore, a golem is an animated being created entirely from inanimate matter. In modern Hebrew the word golem literally means 'cocoon', but can also mean "fool", "silly", or even "stupid". The name appears to derive from the word gelem, which means "raw material".
And the golems are in the Bible too!
9. Djinn --------->>> Mythology of Persia
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KnightDougal
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posted January 02, 2007 12:04 PM |
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Haven=Germany, France, Spanish, England
Fortress=Russia, Norway
Academy= Arabia, Ottoman Empire
Inferno=Japan
Sylan=Nort America
Dungeon=Greek
Necropolish=Israel
Settlement (my faction )=Hungary
Tropical (GenieLord's faction )=Mexico
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted January 02, 2007 01:05 PM |
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Well, Vokial, you are right - Academy is a mess.
And I think the reason for it is how it was created. The Wizard town was created in HOMM 2. In later versions of the game it changed several times, but nobody dared to throw away Wizard's most loved units - golem, mage, titan.
However, in HOMM 5 the factions are shown in a completely new world. Here the mages are great summoners and constructors. The titan itself is a magical construct so he is nothing like the greek mythology titan. The gargoyles and the golems share his fate, so no parallel to the European culture can be made through them. As a matter of fact the mages themselves (and their towns) are probably the only indication of where this town came from - especially since its the first time that their look really changes.
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SS
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posted January 03, 2007 09:28 AM |
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Quote:
Haven=Germany, France, Spanish, England
Fortress=Russia, Norway
Academy= Arabia, Ottoman Empire
Inferno=Japan
Sylan=Nort America
Dungeon=Greek
Necropolish=Israel
Settlement (my faction)=Hungary
Tropical (GenieLord's faction)=Mexico
I think you better explain why you are saying what you are saying. fro example Inferno = Japan why?
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alcibiades
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posted January 03, 2007 10:00 AM |
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Thank you for a very instructive proclamation for why my favorite town is a mess, VokialBG.
Actually, I agree with you 100 %. Whereas all the other factions are based either on one race (Humans, Elfs, Dwarfs) or creature type (Undead, Infernal). The Academy is an obvious exception with a Human, the Gremlin, an Animate, a Construct, two Spirits and then the Titan, which is just somewhere in between it all. That being said, I actually think it works ok because of its established place in HOMAM history.
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SS
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posted January 03, 2007 10:08 AM |
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to alcibiades and VokialBG:
I am starting to agree with you guys. the builings are definatley from persian Architecture. units are some from greek, perisan, Fremch, jewish mythology.So what else is left to be disected?
However it is the mijority that counts and so I am still beliving that Academy is a middle eastern region due to sandy terrain, some units from middle east, and last but not the least the middle eastern Architecture.
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