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MSG-1-1
MSG-1-1


Known Hero
posted March 26, 2007 06:09 PM

ofcourse I tried firefox, who even uses crappy i.e?


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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
*****
posted March 28, 2007 03:16 AM
Edited by Jinxer at 04:43, 28 Mar 2007.

I found the solution!!!

Part I: Disable TCP Autotuning
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1. Click the Start (Windows Logo) icon
2. Select 'All Programs'
3. Select 'Accessories'
4. Right-Click on 'Command Prompt'
5. Click 'Run as Administrator'
6. A dialog box will ask you to confirm. Click the 'Continue' button to proceed.
7. Type: netsh interface tcp set global autotuning=disabled
8. Press 'Enter'
9. The message 'Ok.' should appear.
10. Type: exit

Part II: Empty your Java Cache
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11. Visit the chat rooms.
12. The Java icon will appear in your task icon list in the lower-right hand corner of your screen
13. Right-click the Java (coffee-cup) icon and select 'Open Control Panel'
14. Under 'Temporary Internet Files', click 'Settings'
15. Click the 'Delete Files...' button
16. A window titled 'Delete Temporary Files' will appear. Make sure all options are checked and click 'OK'
17. Click 'OK' to exit the 'Temporary File Settings' window.
18. Click 'OK' to exit the Java Control Panel

Part III: Empty your browser's cache
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11. Clear your browser's cache.
12. Shut down all instances of your web browser.

That's all. You may now try to load the chat applet.

This issue is likely to work itself out in the near future as future updates of Windows Vista and Java are released to the public -- once these updates have been released, your users will not be required to go through the above procedure.

How to Un-do the above steps
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If, for any reason at all, you need to undo the above procedure, follow these steps:
1. Click the Start (Windows Logo) icon
2. Select 'All Programs'
3. Select 'Accessories'
4. Right-Click on 'Command Prompt'
5. Click 'Run as Administrator'
6. A dialog box will ask you to confirm. Click the 'Continue' button to proceed.
7. Type: netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal
8. Press 'Enter'
9. The message 'Ok.' should appear.
10. Type: exit


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Plexus22
Plexus22


Known Hero
posted April 03, 2007 07:04 AM

Quote:
getting a guy quit h3.. eeerhmm yeaaa right, how much$ am i getting per conversion? cause i aint doing it for less than 500$ per head

better ask me to convince ppl out of dope, would be so much easier



I don't understand why true Heroes fans wouldnt try Heroes V out just for the curiosity factor. I was still playing Heroes III and enjoying it all the way up to the time the Heroes V was released but I was very excited about a new Hereos game being released and purchased it as soon as it hit store shelves. And when Heroes 6 is released I'm going to try that one too. If it sucks then theres always Heroes V to go back to.

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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted April 30, 2007 12:47 AM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 00:48, 30 Apr 2007.

I have been playing heroes since HommI , for me, HommIII was the best part until HommV appeared. It's definitely the best part and following patches and expansions make it even better. I am very pleased with the total outcome of HommV and im looking forward to see HommVI.

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted May 15, 2007 09:29 AM




I don't understand why true Heroes fans wouldnt try Heroes V out just for the curiosity factor. I was still playing Heroes III and enjoying it all the way up to the time the Heroes V was released but I was very excited about a new Hereos game being released and purchased it as soon as it hit store shelves. And when Heroes 6 is released I'm going to try that one too. If it sucks then theres always Heroes V to go back to.


Its simple. Most ppl try h5 version 1.0. Its totaly crap game and none like it. Don't forget all problems in multiplayer in version 1.2 and 1.4. This make many ppl to leave h5 too. After HoF out bugs is fix and game is better. H3 and H5 is different and both are good.

P.S. I like personal H3 more. H5 need more spels/arts/heroes. Time limit in h5 is stupid. Need be like h3...only when you are not in battle.

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
*****
posted May 16, 2007 02:15 AM
Edited by Jinxer at 22:25, 16 May 2007.

There are many things about Heroes 5 that cause new players to find no interest or lose interest real fast...

I have only been playing Heroes 5 for less then a year, and already, I am thinking of retiring from it.  No matter how hard I try to give the game a chance... the fact remains that it is to unbalanced... and it is 98% roll of dice luck factors.

Today was the final straw for me, and a perfect example.  Acadamy vs Acadamy... stats were EVEN... and when I mean even, we both had same attack same defense same spell power... we both had expert attack... we both had luck +5 we both had level 3 minis on all troops.. Only difference was I had DOUBLE his troops... yet... his troops ( without lucky strikes) was doing double the damage as mine. I dont mind losing, but I want it to make sense.  I want there to be a bases for it...

So no matter how much I WANT to love the game... and how much I will miss having a game to play... I have no choice... its pointless waste of time to spend hours playing a game and then have NO control over the outcome. The game just does what it wants in the end... Roll the dice.  Where is the players skill come in?  In majority of game, the result is decided when battle starts based on combination of spells artifacts vs opponents setup...what is actually done in combat, is of little importance.



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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted May 16, 2007 05:17 AM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 05:29, 16 May 2007.

Quote:
Today was the final straw for me, and a perfect example.  Acadamy vs Acadamy... stats were EVEN... and when I mean even, we both had same attack same defense same spell power... we both had expert attack... we both had luck +5 we both had level 3 minis on all troops.. Only difference was I had DOUBLE his troops... yet... his troops ( without lucky strikes) was doing double the damage as mine. I dont mind losing, but I want it to make sense.  I want there to be a bases for it...


huh?

From my experience H5 is very skill defendant and i have no doubt about it. In each game i lose i can find a good reason for my loss. Even if it is stupid shackles i could have done better and secure myself taking all my troops with me.

If you say that everything was even and his creatures were dealing double damage despite 50% lower numbers without luck it means you clearly didn't notice all his bonuses. Without knowledge of game mechanics you cant complain about being unlucky. Sorry dude but if you want to win in any game you must first learn the rules. There is no such thing as this game hates me or this is a lottery in heroes. Not without reason there is few top players only. Do you think they are the lucky guys? How bout your 11-1 score against Kyriel.. did you get lucky 11 times while he got lucky 1 time? Or perhaps Yorko won 4-0 with you because he was lucky in each game he played with you?

Just be a men and accept the defeat.

I know that sometimes someone gets lucky but i don't remember a game in which luck was a decisive factor.

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
*****
posted May 16, 2007 06:21 AM

haha... I can count atleast a dozen of my losses that were silly unlucky losses. From my opponent getting 10 lucky hits in battle vs my only 1 lucky hit... or my opponent resisting 4 outta 4 hits even tho he only had 25% resistance. The several games, my opponent got both the ring and the staff and got to move all ther units 3 times to my 1 time, During battle....

Indeed... you are correct this game is skill oriented.  Not sure how I coulda missed it...


Its prolly best I am moving on... so you dozen "Skilled" players can all fight for the top 12 in TOH.  

Doesnt really matter... say what you wish.... defend the game how ever makes you feel better. Make it sound as if its pack full of skill so it has some meaning to you....

ONe more question ohh masterful one....

---  If I have 3 Titans EACH weighs exactly the SAME!  100 lbs each!

And I take 1 Titan and put him on one side of the scale and I place the other 2 titans on the other side of the scale... Does the side with the 1 Titan weigh more in your world?

Thats the fundemental problem with this game... it doesnt have any scientific bases for the results. It is weighted HEAVY on the side of luck and random outcome factors.

In heroes 3... you knew when entering battle, what creatures was gonna act and in what order based on there speed.  You could caculate a plan and act on it. IN H5 the creatures all start randomly.  So again roll the dice.. ohh well this game play A gets to go first with 4 of his 7 stacks so lets let him eliminate half your army before I get a turn...

I could debate for hours on this issue... but its pointless..

Simpler to just conceed and agree that I must suck at game, its all me, and game is all skill. I will cheer for you and the other 10-12 players that are still exploiting Hourglass map and in 6 months claiming to be Heroes 5 gods
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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted May 16, 2007 07:01 AM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 08:12, 16 May 2007.

Quote:
n heroes 3... you knew when entering battle, what creatures was gonna act and in what order based on there speed.  You could caculate a plan and act on it. IN H5 the creatures all start randomly.  So again roll the dice.. ohh well this game play A gets to go first with 4 of his 7 stacks so lets let him eliminate half your army before I get a turn...

I could debate for hours on this issue... but its pointless..

Simpler to just conceed and agree that I must suck at game, its all me, and game is all skill. I will cheer for you and the other 10-12 players that are still exploiting Hourglass map and in 6 months claiming to be Heroes 5 gods


Each part is different. You need to take into consideration all new factors. If you don't care for them you simply lose. I like random atb on the start btw, it gives a scent of uncertainty and hope. You want to play a game without luck? Play chess, you can implement a your "game theory" there, but where is the fun in such game when you can foreseen each move , huh?

Dont want to be decimated in first move? Play dwarfs, they are always second and i always win big battles with them.. its even better that all my units act second since i get action all of them at once.

Of course i will defend this game because in my opinion this is the best part of heroes. You can say many things about imbalances still(which was always drawback of homm games), but it is certainly not too much luck defendant.

I'll tell you one thing. Noobs always complain about being unlucky all the time. Wanna make a step ahead to be a good player? Start noticing your mistakes. Then start learning from them - thats second step. With attitude of yours you wont achieve anything anywhere. You have beaten 11-1 a player who is 4-44 in games and you think that you are so good that you lose games because you are being unlucky only? And perhaps you wanna tell me that you have never won with Betruger Yorko and Al Kilmore just because they were ALWAYS lucky?  Give me a break. Look the truth in the eyes man.

Those 10-12 players are most active players in toh .. and there are many more playing toh. Also there are other tournaments , ask wyp or some russian players.  And wait .. i dont like Hourglass.

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted May 16, 2007 09:03 AM

Jinxer you are not right. Yes "ingame luck" is important but this is not all. You need alot skill to win game when your oponent have better "ingame luck" Your main problem is you get every loss so hard...but loss game is part from play. Other problem is you are averge good. In my team we are talk regular and i know how you loss your last few games against Jorko. Its because you did bad plan/strategy. How you expect to win game with 2 stak army agaist full army... what you did in battle zone vs Jorko. Its just impossible. I don't know details for your last game against SQ79 but he is very good and evil oponent. He know game well and for this get win against oponent who have x2 more army.
About ppl who expolit same maps (HG) or other. Yes its my favorite map...i just like it. I have 30 games here...but 21 from them are against SQ79(12) he have over 70 games here,Cycleguy(6)he have over 64,Arteman(3)11 total--> no 1 in ToH ever beat him in this map. So do you thik i get here easy win? Its big challenge to beat oponent where is most good.
When Feluniozbunio start play again in ToH he did his 1st 2 games with me. Both games we play diferent maps from HG. 1st PENINSULA. Its very hard to win against dungeon here... who doing hit/run and kill your army. Second DRAGON PASS.
Jinxer: Stop blame game and start learn how to play it.

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sq79
sq79


Famous Hero
posted May 16, 2007 11:52 AM

Well jinxer, it seems everytime we have a game, something happens
Seriously... i was feeling unlucky when u have 2 academy town, i had 1 . Isn't that luck as well ?? Its really depressing to go into battle against double army on my side.

Then one week before battle, staff of netherworld appeared in my merchant and i was thinking, wow maybe i get a chance now. If there is anything, staff of netherworld makes all the difference in a big battle This artifact spoils game as i mentioned before...

Question on ihora's casting slower than havez ...
Ihora did puppet master at level 26.. Havez did mass haste .. with ihora's speciality, she shld have like 43% casting initiative, while havez uses have 50% of initiative after mass haste... That explains why havez turn comes before ihora after first cast.

Now on the higher damage from my troops despite equal stats ...
5 Stack of academy troops were equipped with -3 defence/hit artifact .. After several rounds.. ur gremlims and golems and gargoryles etc.. all had near to zero defence ..

As for Hourglass and all those rushes.. As far as i know.. the one who takes on harder battles and break earlier = outplaying the opponent. Isn't that also what h3 and h4 is like ? Arteman broke week3 day 7 both sides in hourglass, for this... i would classfied him as being very skillful instead of using any exploits.

Seriously i have lost more stupid games than u can ever imagine..
So don't just quit because of a game. snow happens, sometimes u gain, sometimes u lose



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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted May 16, 2007 01:15 PM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 13:16, 16 May 2007.

Quote:
Today was the final straw for me, and a perfect example.  Acadamy vs Acadamy... stats were EVEN... and when I mean even, we both had same attack same defense same spell power... we both had expert attack... we both had luck +5 we both had level 3 minis on all troops.. Only difference was I had DOUBLE his troops... yet... his troops ( without lucky strikes) was doing double the damage as mine. I dont mind losing, but I want it to make sense.  I want there to be a bases for it...




Quote:
Now on the higher damage from my troops despite equal stats ...
5 Stack of academy troops were equipped with -3 defence/hit artifact .. After several rounds.. ur gremlims and golems and gargoryles etc.. all had near to zero defence ..



Lol.. no comment Jinxer.

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
*****
posted May 16, 2007 03:43 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 16:59, 16 May 2007.

See thats what I am struggling with about this game.....

There is Always that 1 thing... I think its silly that you can play for hours in a game, and 1 element of game, totally decides the outcome of the game.  

-3 defence/hit can erase double army, another game, I have 30 Emeralds and he lost all his angels cause he fought bad all game, and he cast puppet on emeralds that have 50% magic resistanc. Another game the one thing that loses the game is ring and staff....  another game the thing that loses the game is guy having two minus 2 luck rings and the cloak....

Its always that 1 thing that totally wins the game... why cant the game be won or lost by the battle skill of the players??  

I dont mind losing..  I dont care if I lose every game.... I just want control over my fate.  Thats all I want.. I wanna lose cause I played fought bad in battle... or cause I took to many risks during build up of game and lost most of my army... not because of that 1 artifact or that 1 spell that is gonna decide game before we even engage in battle.


Trust me I wanna play... but struggling with why??? I dont care what Felun says, in my 60 games I have only ever had about 3 maybe 4 games that I can recall that was close games where battle decisions and skill decided game.  The other 56 games were all slaughters one way or the other based on a severe unbalance of one thing or another.


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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted May 16, 2007 06:35 PM

You are right to tell game is not fair some times and this can piss you so mich. For example my last 2 losses against arteman is because game deicide to give him win. Yes we both make very good play...but when i have 55% resist and miror his chance to cast pupet from 1st try is very low. He did it and get win. Second game i loss alot more stupid. 1st he did breac in day 7 week 3 my guard in HG... Its like cheat...because only stupid necro can do this...but this is not enough for beat me I have full prepared hero and more army from him...so game 1st decide to give plague week 4. This pissed me...but i have dark magic+destruc...so my chances after plague is good. I cast him pupet on his Vampires. Second turn i start implosion for 1600 dmg. Its alot...can kill every his stack from 1st try...but game did bad joke to me again and with 10-15% resist he resist x2 my implosions and i loss for this
Yes this is total crap...but part from game. I will beat him next few games and all will be ok

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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted May 16, 2007 06:44 PM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 18:49, 16 May 2007.

Quote:
-3 defence/hit can erase double army, another game, I have 30 Emeralds and he lost all his angels cause he fought bad all game, and he cast puppet on emeralds that have 50% magic resistanc. Another game the one thing that loses the game is ring and staff....  another game the thing that loses the game is guy having two minus 2 luck rings and the cloak....

Its always that 1 thing that totally wins the game... why cant the game be won or lost by the battle skill of the players??


Do u even hear what are you saying? Getting this one thing that decides about a game IS the skill. If you can't get that that thing by yourself, your opponent will have one or even few things that you may say that are not balanced or whatever and will win. But the truth is its not that things that are not balanced costed you the game but your lack of counters for it and lack of your own surprises and lack of foreseeing. This is how every game is constructed, not only homm. You need to use every opportunity to gain an upper hand instead of whining about opponents good combination of skills/artifacts/units etc. Its NOT luck they win with, this is SKILL and knowledge about the game that beats and average player because they know how to take full advantage of game mechanics. You obviously don't know this.

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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted May 16, 2007 09:38 PM
Edited by insatiable at 21:39, 16 May 2007.

felun is right

luck is in game too, but usually best player wins
.. so be happy even if you win some jinx, cause means you damn lucky

[i even lose in Hero le Fou, which is suppose to be 200% luck map]
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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
*****
posted May 16, 2007 10:09 PM

I am glad I didnt start that game with you other day Felun... you are soo full of yourself your head is about to explode.

I never claimed to know everything about the game... but you obviously dont know all either cause most of what you are saying is B*llSh*t.  You speak as if every counter to everything is available in every game and it is simply up to a good player to go and pluck off the shelf the proper counter to each situation...

That counter is not always there as you make it seem.. You just like hearing your self talk and like the sound your voice makes as you sound all great as you put me down in process...

And regardless what you say, there are those 1 single things that decide the outcome of the game...

For example... today Jorko explained to me that despite what the book says... the Ring of Speed doesnt cancel the Staff of Netherworld.  In my world +20% -20% = Zero... but ubisoft in there devine retardedness decides to apply some artifacts at different times of battle.  But my point is felun you claim simply knowing this info makes an average player great and thusly lets them win.

In that game Acadamy vs Acadamy... weather I knew that the ring was or wasnt gonna cancel the staff wouldnt have changed the outcome of the battle.  Apparently the deciding factor was that SQ equiped -3 defense/hit and I equiped all attack oriented minis.  So that 1 single choice at the end of a 4 month game decided the game.  Nothing that we did for the previous 4 months of game play mattered. So thats my point. The fact that 1 little aspect shouldnt beable to totally decide the game as that 1 aspect did. And the fact that his 20% staff works better then my 20% ring which let 5 of his 7 stacks go before my team got a turn... makes it also hard to fight when you lose 1/3 your army before even getting to move.

Regardless, I am gonna continue on... but one thing that I learned from this, is that Felun has no integrity.  You coulda simply voiced your opinion and said that in your opinion the game had more skill then luck because of this or that... instead you come full force bashing me, degrading me... calling me a bad player... all I guess to make yourself feel more important and wise.  

I guess since you beat Karim 5-1 and have played 1/3 of your games on 1 map that you know all the possible senerios of game and have experienced everyting in the game and that is why you act as if you are a Heroes god... And if you honestly think H5 is more skill then luck oriented, you arent as smart as you think you are... Well trust me I rather have my integrity and values intact then be a good heroes player if your an example of a good heroes player.

@ Insatiable.... I am anxious to try your new map... then hills and landscape looks really kewl...


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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted May 16, 2007 10:12 PM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 22:19, 16 May 2007.

Quote:
For example... today Jorko explained to me that despite what the book says... the Ring of Speed doesnt cancel the Staff of Netherworld.  In my world +20% -20% = Zero... but ubisoft in there devine retardedness decides to apply some artifacts at different times of battle.  But my point is felun you claim simply knowing this info makes an average player great and thusly lets them win.



Heh thats simply supports my opinion about you not knowing game mechanics.


Of course i had to bash you since you bashed my favourite game first. And its only because you are poor player.

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
*****
posted May 16, 2007 10:33 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 22:58, 16 May 2007.

I bash a game.. you retaliate by bashing a person... hahaha... your integrity level keeps dropping...

And when you start playing other maps besides BFH on a regular basis, we shall see how well you do.

So lets sum this up...

Jinxer Sucks and is a poor player but he has Integrity and Honor.

Felun is just a great player.

Now thats something to be proud of. And I am sorry if I hurt your feelings, just reply and bash me some more to boost your ego and self worth.

BTW are you sure you arent " The Teacher " under a new account?


***  I see your best record is 5-1 beating up on Karim who has 124 losses... You was using this kinda info earlier agasint me to gauge my skill level.  

Your record = 33-24
My record = 38-24

So since your a great player and I am a poor player... then that means you got most of your losses from being out played by a better player...  and I got most of my losses from not understanding some aspects of game.

So it appears you are all talk and only good at BFH map... not so good at Heroes5 maybe??

So lets settle this with some honor instead of you bashing people on board.  Lets take it on the field.  

I challenge you to a game.  What do you got to lose?  I am poor player remember... and you got all the answers. And if I lose, then no big deal.. I am a poor player and was expected to lose.  And IF you lose... OHH MY! How embarasing to lose to such a horrible player as Jinxer.

What do you say?
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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted May 16, 2007 11:04 PM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 23:07, 16 May 2007.

Sure, when i got time.

Oh wait now u wanna play with me?

And so far i haven't said anything about myself so cut your crap ok? Its not about who has more wins or losses, its about attidude.. i used your win ration just to show you haw wron you are if you cant understand it , your problem.

Besides i thought u don't play this stupid game anymore.

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