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cycleguy
Adventuring Hero
Runs through cornfields naked
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posted March 24, 2007 02:08 AM |
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Edited by cycleguy at 02:24, 24 Mar 2007.
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I need some opinions on this
Ok, Elit and I were playing our 5th game so far he's beaten me every time till this game.
After a final battle that lasted about an hour and a half, when he gets down to his last two titans and knows he has no chance he sais he wont report, ive put two screenshots below on our dialog in the game and one from our dialog in ToH Chatroom.
Elit seems to think since I used mark of necromancer the game doesnt count and therefore he shouldn't report and hasn't reported.
So I ask anyone from the ToH community to please put thier opinion of what just happened here.
And please, dont be shy 
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted March 24, 2007 02:27 AM |
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Edited by fiur at 02:31, 24 Mar 2007.
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well that can't be to hard first U got Mark of the necromancer
then you also got  (Pendant of Conflux)
and skill: Sorcery with Arcane Trainig....
Enlightenment with Intel.......
Something like that.....
Sure you win!!
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted March 24, 2007 02:55 AM |
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Edited by sq79 at 02:57, 24 Mar 2007.
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It seems the battle dragged on for a long time,even the catapult is destroyed and cycle uses mark of necro on elit to raise dead?
If that's the case, don't see why there is problem ?
Mark of necro was easier to get since patch since the necros are so much weaker nowadays
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted March 24, 2007 07:07 AM |
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Mark of necromancer is definately retarded!!! But so is alot of things that UBI has made possible in this latest patch.. I think UBI dont actually play the games they make...
Anyways back on point... Bottom line is... if its part of the game....no matter how retarded.... then it is ALLOWED. Elio...dude I would suggest you take your loss with style and honor and report...and next time you play agasint Necro...request a rule that mark of necromancer not be allowed in final battle before you start game. Either that or dont play Necro.
I personally wont play vs Necro now because of it.
Those are my 2 cents.
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Ghasteater
Known Hero
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posted March 24, 2007 07:46 AM |
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He-he not see many problems with that Mark.
On early stages it can Help greatly. As Nur, that treplenishmana in combat + have mysticism
He-he I remebr situatiin, when daestroy warmachines by death cold, sitting in Zilo's caslte, and he accept that.
So that thing is not cheat until both players can use some rules.
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted March 24, 2007 09:22 AM |
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so if i understand correct Elit dont accept game result cause of Mark?
is quite simple, did you set 'no mark' rule b4 game, or not?
who cares if is a retard skill..
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nevermind
Famous Hero
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posted March 24, 2007 09:25 AM |
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I really hate people that have a problem to report
What's the deal here you lost the game then report even if you lost cause of game unbalanced , If i have to count the number of times i lost cause of game unbalanced i would not report many games , suck it up be a man .
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted March 24, 2007 11:34 AM |
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i know sometimes its very hard to report a lost game when u've been very frustrated by the ways the game/battle went.
it happened to me several times because i refused to believe that i lost when theoretically chances to win were over 90%, but, due to some "unnatural" luck/unluck the snow happend. then i choose to sleep over night and chill, next day the hauntings are gone and there is a fresh chance to win a new game, starting with reportin the last loss, to have all clear.
its a question of how youre handling your temper, but it must take place inside u, not offending the other player who played his game, maximized his chances to win (cause in fact this is the purpose u play), and did it honorable, not by any "unholy" methods.
so i suggest to report the game, u can redeem anytime. 
have a nice day
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Zilonite
Famous Hero
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posted March 24, 2007 12:35 PM |
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Gees... I simply can't believe somebody is refusing to report loss because of this..
My 2 cents: report, send an email to Ves and add Elit to no playing list
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fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted March 24, 2007 12:56 PM |
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ROFL that is all I can say.
If you don`t know about the Mark before you start the game, and have played a ton of games here, then well.
If you know about it, but "it only is a problem when I lose" then its just pathetic.
GL finding opponents Elit
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Valentin
Adventuring Hero
grr
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posted March 24, 2007 02:15 PM |
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If there was no "no marc in last battle" rule, Elit must report.
But I understand, somethimes after long and hard game everyone can become out of control. I hope he will report.
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Destro23
Promising
Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
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posted March 24, 2007 03:52 PM |
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I think the first match I beat cycleguy the only reason I won was due to mark of the necromance.
It allowed me to cast multiple firewalls, and phoenix in a game I started final combat with no mana.
Cycle lost he reported.. unsure why this would be any different.
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted March 24, 2007 04:32 PM |
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I was wondering if mark of the wizard was used? If the wizard can use their mark, why can't the necros
It is in no way overpowered. Just for easier creeping against the neutrals that's it. They really suck big big time in final battle, as zilo showed me 
Ubi balanced this by reducing mana by 20% / raise dead for necros, and 10% / resurrection for wizards to prevent mark of wizard/resurrection.
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elit
Famous Hero
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posted March 24, 2007 05:03 PM |
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cycleguy: Game is reported 4h after we end. Many ppl report 12/24h later so maybe you did this post so early ?
Why i report it ? Because we not set any rules about this unlimited mana.
I'm 100% right its not real and total crap. How you can have 26 spel and 8 knolege and your mana never end ? Academy have cheap spels but my 200 mana end. For this i'm loss battle. Yes its crazy battle over 20-30 turns.
Nival/Ubi need balance this skill and set limit. Maybe you cant back more from 100-200% from your base mana or someting. How work now is much over power.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted March 24, 2007 05:39 PM |
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There are many many aspects of this game that are not well thought out.... Ubi made parts of this game with there eyes closed I think... And still am sure that they have noone on the design team that actually plays this game in multi player.
Havens new ability to train 100 Paladins for next to no cost. Silly
Sylvans ability to get luck bonus + favorite enemy bonus + elven luck + critical hit = Unrealistic amounts of damage that there stats DO NOT support! Silly
Wyngaal = Silly
Deleb = Silly
Puppet Master being able to control unlimited Hit points no matter what the spell power!! I fight and dig to build 25 Emerald Dragons and my opponent clicks buy guild 5 and due to the position of ATB can puppet my dragons and use them agasint me before I can get a chance to cleanse or immunity them... SUPER SILLY!
Having Holy Word as a level 5 spell that will do 144 damage to all inferno and undead stacks when you are fighting acadamy... and they get a level 5 spell like Puppet Master! Where are your HEADS UBI... BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE! SUPER SILLY!
I could go on... but I think you get the point...this game is great but far far from as good as it could be... still much much work and many more patches I hope to come....
Bottom line is player made rules are only way to manually balance the game.
As I said I refuse to play necromancers now unless they agree no mark of necromancer in final fight. Its bad enough they never have to hit or find a mana well all game as I am running in circles hunting wells etc..
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted March 24, 2007 05:51 PM |
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I had an interesting game with zilo lately.
We agree to pick races, while opponent will pick out hero for us and have to stick to that hero as main
So both players will play the worst hero of each race and get harder time.
That will balance things out surely
Wyngaal = silly - agreed on huge maps
Deleb = silly - agreed on small maps
The rest doesn't sound right because they don't have as high chances to win game as wyngaal and deleb.
Some races as mentioned performs better on certain maps that's all.
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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted March 24, 2007 06:22 PM |
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loool !!! i had fun reading this one  ...
If anyone would put a crazy rule like no MotN in final battle I would certainly ask him to revert game to 2.0 version, cause he obviously would rather have 1.5K skellies instead !
This is a crazy rule imho, and I wouldn't play in such conditions... anyway necro is weakened by the new patch, why weaken it even more by disallowing the only good thing for it that came with this patch?
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted March 24, 2007 06:32 PM |
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The best rule is to put an end to any stupid rules!!
To ban any skill in the game is seriously not right.
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted March 24, 2007 06:34 PM |
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Well Elit reported the game, so the argument is over now -- but my greater annoyance is with all the unreporteds on the unreported winloss page all the time. Even teacher admits that he will sometimes (if not all the time) report a day later. Just report your game, win or lose RIGHT AFTER the game is over. Its not so hard... but it is a reflection on that person's laziness in life in general I say.
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Destro23
Promising
Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
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posted March 24, 2007 06:41 PM |
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I also think its silly to ban something like motn. Its a great ability yes, but so is elven luck? so is mark of the wizard.. so is training.. so is just about anything thats laying a pounding on you.
I mean maybe You can ban motn and I will ban I don't know... somethng useful to you, necro imo is way below the other factions in terms of overall power, the mark is something that can really change the tides in a final fight. Its there for a reason.. probably to compensate for the +1 knowledge < 10% of the time on level up.
The fact is theres stuff your gonna encounter in this game still that is going to seem unbalanced or overpowered. You can
A) snow and moan about it and start making rules that will just drive people away.
B) Figure out a way to beat it.
C) Quit playing such a lame unbalanced game.
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