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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted August 22, 2007 03:16 PM |
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End of case 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 22, 2007 03:39 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 19:04, 22 Aug 2007.
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Enough with the silly chattering already!
Check this one! Tribes of the east trailer and it looks particularly good to me. I'll watch it once more and be back for comments!
Edit: Some things I noticed.
Dark Messiah music rocks 
Orcs keep mentioning 'father sky' so they probably worship aspects of nature rather than a dragon God. Since they have shamans it fits well.
Demons facing ancient enemies..? That could only be faceless, Asha, maybe descendants of Sar Elam and/or his pupils.
As for allies we see Arantir that we know that he is their enemy. They probably share a common goal for now.
Both the orcs and dwarves(Hangvul) have sent representatives to Zehir so it's a last stand with all united.
Zealots are seen buffing haven units and...is that a spell animation for the pit spawn? I thought they'd have no spells.
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dschingi
Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
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posted August 22, 2007 04:18 PM |
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Edited by dschingi at 18:32, 22 Aug 2007.
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I hope the game will be as good as the trailer 
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted August 22, 2007 04:22 PM |
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That new trailers absolutely rules. I wish I could watch it fullscreen.
Also seeing the trailer, I seen that Quroq frees the Orcs, but it is Kujin who actualy leads them against the Demons.
Elvin, Father Sky might actualy refer to Sylath.
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Oybei
Tavern Dweller
Strength in Numbers
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posted August 22, 2007 04:41 PM |
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It seems isabel is a demon.....
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 22, 2007 05:31 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 17:32, 22 Aug 2007.
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You aren't the fastest are you?? But OMG!! IT LOOKS SOOO AWESOME!! You can't tell me that they haven't improved the story telling (finally their lips move correct when they speak and no more random spellcasting while talking, and some epic ingame scenes...)or atleast it seems to have improved very much. I can't wait!! Btw don't you think that when they refer to ancient enemys they mean the orcs?? they are ancient enemys of the demons. Im not sure about faceless would make the whole thing even more complicated... but aaaaaargh thankes for the trailer it was great!
And yeah the "Father Sky" = Sylath thing makes sense to me (eventhough i woudn't like the orcs to also worship dragon gods...)
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Magister180888
Known Hero
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posted August 22, 2007 05:42 PM |
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evilp
Promising
Known Hero
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posted August 22, 2007 05:54 PM |
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 22, 2007 05:54 PM |
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Thank you... just makes the whole thing more awesome oO!!
And at 0:42 you can actually see the mace of the red demon cyclops very nice.
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Tenaka
Famous Hero
Makes sense
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posted August 22, 2007 05:55 PM |
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Quote:
And yeah the "Father Sky" = Sylath thing makes sense to me (eventhough i woudn't like the orcs to also worship dragon gods...)
Are you sure they say 'father sky', and not 'for the sky'? 
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 22, 2007 05:58 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 17:59, 22 Aug 2007.
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Yeah im sure first he says for the sky but the Gotai guy later says "i serve only father sky" or something like that but definetly with the words "Father Sky". Yeah just checked it again its at 1:23 he says "I follow Father Sky".
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 22, 2007 07:07 PM |
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I was actually confused myself there but it's Father Sky.
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Tenaka
Famous Hero
Makes sense
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posted August 22, 2007 07:10 PM |
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Well, if he uses both, then I'm not sure they refer to sylath. I'd rather say they worship the elements, such as Mother Earth and Father Sky
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 22, 2007 07:28 PM |
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I'd be very happy if that would be the case... Wouldn't make sense if the orcs would worship Dragons imo... Wouldn't fit to their past.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 22, 2007 07:35 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 19:44, 22 Aug 2007.
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Also there has been a third dev diary in the meantime that explains the mechanics of bloodrage.
The most important things are summarized below.
Wyverns and Paokais cannot use it as they have no demon blood.
When the creature performs offensive actions, its Rage level increases. Performing a melee attack will provide more Rage than a ranged attack. If the creature waits or skips its turn, the Rage will decrease. It remains at the same level if the creature just moves on the battlefield. Rage grants the creature with a damage absorbing protection. Each time this protection is used in combat, the rage level decreases.
The special bonus of a unit when reaching a level of blood rage will permanently affect it for the current combat, unless its Rage counter passes under the threshold limit again.
Two more thresholds can be reached by increasing the Rage level, allowing the creature to gain two more special bonuses, to a maximum of three. Each Rage stage is displayed on the creature’s portrait in the Initiative Bar as a small blood drop. Each bonus has an effect that is specific to the creature’s type.
The Blood Rage counter is set to zero at the beginning of each combat, though of course there are special abilities, skills, perks and warcries that Orc heroes can learn to earn their creatures a Rage bonus or to increase its growth rate.
Formulas
The 1st threshold is reached at 200 Rage Points (RP), the 2nd at 500, and the 3rd at 1,000.
The “Rage Shield” has its own hit points that are calculated when the creature is hit, and corresponds to a fraction of the whole stack hit points. The stack looses the rage amount corresponding to the hit points that were spent for the rage shield. Absorption percentage varies according to the commanding hero’s Blood Rage skill level.
All creatures in the heroes army get +20 RP for a destroyed hostile stack (even a summoned one), and +30 for a dead friendly one.
Individual creature Rage increase:
•Melee attack on an enemy: +100 RP
•Ranged attack on an enemy: +50 RP
•Spell attack on an enemy: +40 RP
•Harmful spell is cast on the creature: +10 RP (excluding damage-dealing spells)
•Using the Sacrifice Goblin (Shamans) or Swallow Goblin (Cyclops) ability: +60 RP
•Moving: 0 RP
•Using the Defend command: -30 RP
•Using the Wait command: -100 RP
•Skipping a turn due to bad Morale: -80 RP
Here are some examples of spells and creatures’ abilities influence on Rage:
•Blind: the creature looses -100 RP for every turn missed.
•Berserk: the amount of gained RP is doubled while the spell is active.
•Hypnotize: the creature looses -50 RP for every action it performs, instead of gaining them, while the spell is active.
•Forgetfulness: the gained amount of Rage is decreased by 5/10/15/20 RP (depending on the expertise level for the spell).
•The creatures’ abilities that move creatures back along the ATB bar (Bash, Warding Arrow, etc.) decrease Rage by -20 RP.
•Fear: a scared creature looses -100 RP.
•Life Drain, Weakening Strike: every such attack decreases Rage by -20 RP.
•Ors who have the Enrage ability gain +60 instead of +30 RP for each defeated friendly stack.
•Cowardice “ability” decreases Goblins’ Rage by -100 RP each time it is triggered.
Finally 2 more pics:
Edit: Added and resized Images
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 22, 2007 07:48 PM |
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There also seems to be a diagram that shows the effects but it's not yet available in English.
It is a sure bet that pas de riposte=no retaliation  , dommage au max=maximum damage. Wow these bonuses see pretty solid.
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emilsn
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posted August 22, 2007 07:48 PM |
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This ****ing rocks! . The trailer just showed some of the most lovely cut scenes ever! . Did you see they ran through Academy city! IVE WANTED TO BE THERE ON THE SIDEWALK SINCE I SAW THE TOWN!!. Awesome, finally Nival , you master this.. (so it seem)
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Bombur
Known Hero
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posted August 22, 2007 07:50 PM |
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Then necro with Deirdre has an advantage if the orcs have low morale and they loose ragepoints.I think most players will go for that weak spot.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted August 22, 2007 08:59 PM |
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Quote:
There also seems to be a diagram that shows the effects but it's not yet available in English.
It is a sure bet that pas de riposte=no retaliation , dommage au max=maximum damage. Wow these bonuses see pretty solid.
Rejoice everybody, the chart is in English now.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted August 22, 2007 09:03 PM |
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Edited by Daystar at 21:14, 22 Aug 2007.
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Cool, but "Fear my Roar"?
Oh yeah: THE VIDEO IS (Insert exclamatory swear word of your choice here) INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!! The actors have motivation in their dialoge, and a lot of emotion show (eg, when the Dwarf is talking to Zehir) Biara casting that pentacle thing...I wonder what that Is? I saw things running, were they running out, or runing away from it?
The young Shamans look really great.
The Design under the Orc Hero: originally I thought it looked sloppy, but now I see that it is an awesome representation of chalk etchings on cave wall. It feels so anceint, so new.
The Bloodrage sounds like it will be really good, a nice active skill.
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