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Deathy
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Angels Galore
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posted September 20, 2007 09:58 PM |
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Edited by Deathy at 21:58, 20 Sep 2007.
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Cleave on Vindicator is pure bull i say.
seriously, can you name a single unit that has 8 initiative and 4 speed that is actually used for offensive? Squires are so much more useful unless your doing week 1-2 creeping on shooters. and i seriously doubt Nival would give them killer stats suddenly, since they have large shield aswell.
Battle Frenzy was always on a wrong unit, it does not fit the really fast griffins who get no use out of the skill.
i still think Nival should have just changed Battle Frenzy to Vindicators and Cleave to Battle Griffins, those skills would have fitted the units perfectly.
but we shall see what the new skill of Battle Griffin can offer of course 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 20, 2007 09:58 PM |
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I only took a brief look at heroworld but stats seemed more or less the same. Battle griffin still has battle frenzy and the rest apart from those three were the same. Crossbowmen are a bit powerful but then again the knight can't creep as fast unless he has warmachines and I don't feel too enthusiastic about it.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted September 20, 2007 10:19 PM |
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Battle griffin still has battle frenzy and the rest apart from those three were the same.
Perhaps one should clarify here ... Battle Griffin still has Battle Frenzy but ALSO gets new ability which seems some sort of modified Battle Dive.
Ironically, it would still make sense to give Battle Griffin the Cleave ability, because it would only be able to use one of the abilities at a time - so you'd have to choose between making the no-retaliation dive thing or making the double attack and suffering retaliation. Pretty good.
However, one must remember that Battle Frenzy only works in tandem with Unlimited Retaliations. I'm not sure whether Unlimited Retaliations would be über on Vindicators, but perhaps it would not be, if you removed the Large Shield completely. That would give you the choice between a really powerful supportive tank (Squire) or a really nasty "offensive" tank, in the sense that taking it down is going to hurt a lot (Vindicator).
EDIT > Ironically, it even fits with the names: Squire helps others, while Vindicator will retaliate with a vengeance if you attack him.
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