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angelito
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proud father of a princess
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posted January 18, 2014 11:19 PM |
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You have to capture the tower town "Das Gemetzel" first, before you fight him. There you will learn resurrection...
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jwnda
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posted January 23, 2014 10:05 PM |
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angelito said:
You have to capture the tower town "Das Gemetzel" first, before you fight him. There you will learn resurrection...
Ressurection heals about 100 grand elves (or similar). I dont survive the second round. Any other hints? thanks
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted January 23, 2014 11:22 PM |
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solmir2003
Tavern Dweller
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posted January 24, 2014 11:29 AM |
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Salamandre said:
Mighty gorgons.
Thanks for all tips. Have read all 19 pages. ufff 
What are the minimal army for the Tower? So far as I understand I need
1) resurrect
2) be in the tower
3) have 2 dragonfiles to block titans 2 rounds.
But what is next? I saw "air shield". is it worth trying? May be I can teleport gorgons after blinding nagas?
What I release the second here, should I wait for reinforcements or can go with the base army?
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jwnda
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posted February 11, 2014 06:41 PM |
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Salamandre said:
Mighty gorgons.
Please, Please. I'm so desperate. I tried for at least 50 times. I have no idea how to defeat KS.
This time I have:
952 Grand Elves
151 Chaos hydras
1 Faerie Dragon
233 Dragon Flies
281 Mighty Gorgons
178 Wyvern Monarchs
27 Cyclops Kings
I think it is really the best I can have.
KS's army:
139 Titans
360 Naga queens
1164 Iron Golems
3 Gold GOlems
783 Arch Mages
1529 Obsidian Gargoyles
575 Master Genies
How do I defeat him. I already have resurection but it is useless. Unfortunatelly I'm not in the castle. He won't attack me in the castle.
Please, again, help me.
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heroes_player
Known Hero
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posted February 11, 2014 07:00 PM |
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jwnda said:
Salamandre said:
Mighty gorgons.
Please, Please. I'm so desperate. I tried for at least 50 times. I have no idea how to defeat KS.
This time I have:
952 Grand Elves
151 Chaos hydras
1 Faerie Dragon
233 Dragon Flies
281 Mighty Gorgons
178 Wyvern Monarchs
27 Cyclops Kings
I think it is really the best I can have.
KS's army:
139 Titans
360 Naga queens
1164 Iron Golems
3 Gold GOlems
783 Arch Mages
1529 Obsidian Gargoyles
575 Master Genies
How do I defeat him. I already have resurection but it is useless. Unfortunatelly I'm not in the castle. He won't attack me in the castle.
Please, again, help me.
If I remember correctly, if the opponent has such army I think it is too late to face him. You need to be fast and face him early as possible  In every map like UtB there is no time to wait week of creatures 'cause moving forward is more important 
Anyways I didn't finish the map because I got stuck against the Rampart enemies whose gold dragons always managed to ravage all my behemoths 1st turn
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted February 11, 2014 07:26 PM |
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Edited by angelito at 19:32, 11 Feb 2014.
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jwnda said:
Salamandre said:
Mighty gorgons.
Please, Please. I'm so desperate. I tried for at least 50 times. I have no idea how to defeat KS.
This time I have:
952 Grand Elves
151 Chaos hydras
1 Faerie Dragon
233 Dragon Flies
281 Mighty Gorgons
178 Wyvern Monarchs
27 Cyclops Kings
I think it is really the best I can have.
KS's army:
139 Titans
360 Naga queens
1164 Iron Golems
3 Gold GOlems
783 Arch Mages
1529 Obsidian Gargoyles
575 Master Genies
How do I defeat him. I already have resurection but it is useless. Unfortunatelly I'm not in the castle. He won't attack me in the castle.
Please, again, help me.
The Faerie Dragon in your army makes no sense, he just lowers your moral. The 27 cyclop kings also lower your moral and won't help too much.
You could use 2 single flies instead to block / weaken the titans, or, if you have mass slow, you could use 1 single flie (retail) and 1 single monarch and hope you poison the titans while having 2 monarch stacks attacks in a row. Grand elves can attack also before getting attacked by the titans....and the mighty moos are your titan killers also...
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jwnda
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posted February 12, 2014 09:06 AM |
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angelito said:
jwnda said:
Salamandre said:
Mighty gorgons.
Please, Please. I'm so desperate. I tried for at least 50 times. I have no idea how to defeat KS.
This time I have:
952 Grand Elves
151 Chaos hydras
1 Faerie Dragon
233 Dragon Flies
281 Mighty Gorgons
178 Wyvern Monarchs
27 Cyclops Kings
I think it is really the best I can have.
KS's army:
139 Titans
360 Naga queens
1164 Iron Golems
3 Gold GOlems
783 Arch Mages
1529 Obsidian Gargoyles
575 Master Genies
How do I defeat him. I already have resurection but it is useless. Unfortunatelly I'm not in the castle. He won't attack me in the castle.
Please, again, help me.
The Faerie Dragon in your army makes no sense, he just lowers your moral. The 27 cyclop kings also lower your moral and won't help too much.
You could use 2 single flies instead to block / weaken the titans, or, if you have mass slow, you could use 1 single flie (retail) and 1 single monarch and hope you poison the titans while having 2 monarch stacks attacks in a row. Grand elves can attack also before getting attacked by the titans....and the mighty moos are your titan killers also...
The thing is KS is having cape of velocity and without the faerie dragon he always starts with titans. That means instant kill for Grand elves. I have the Spirit of oppression so I used that and did not care about the morale.
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
gets back
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posted March 01, 2014 02:57 PM |
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So anyone has a guide to this map? I haven't played it for like 8 years or so and I don't remember much.
Also, what's the latest version of the map? I have one from 2014-june-07, the one where you start with logistics(exp), wisdom(bas), leadership(bas) and water magic(exp) and you can learn: archery, offense, earth, tactics.
But I thought there was an error where you'd get fire magic or smth? I'm a bit confused here.
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
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posted March 01, 2014 03:57 PM |
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ah-ha
I think i found almost everything on thread.
Still, a timeline of where to get when could be helpful.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted March 01, 2014 08:40 PM |
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jwnda said:
The thing is KS is having cape of velocity and without the faerie dragon he always starts with titans. That means instant kill for Grand elves. I have the Spirit of oppression so I used that and did not care about the morale.
The Spirit of Oppression negates all moral BONUSES! So the moral malus you have STAY!
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
gets back
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posted March 04, 2014 08:04 AM |
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OK, so I have started the map.
I walked down the path, got the 1200 gold, got back to the village (1-1-1).
Then I set out to defeat the dwarves, 3 cyclops kings and a TB is enough (I started with expert cure and I took expert slow from the XP bonus).
I picked up the artifact and the spell, headed back to my village and waited for the reinforcements.
Then I crossed the river, defeated the elves, then headed straight for the 4 elf huts (ignoring the gold mine, the northern elf hut and the crypt). I ended up on the southeast hut on 1-2-7. Then I just have enough moves to visit the tree and take the village on 1-3-1 (but I have to ignore the elf hut on the way).
My question is:
Will I have to go back to flag the remaining elf huts, the gold mine, maybe the crypt?
Should I go back to the Hill Fort for upgrade? Is that necessary? I'm not sure it is, but I don't know this map well anymore and I saw suggestions that I should go back to the hillfort BEFORE taking the village but that doesn't seem to be needed as unupgraded elves (actually, even the cyclops) are enough to take the village.
Another question is: when will I get my second hero (as he could hunt back to upgrade stuff and all)?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 04, 2014 08:31 AM |
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The second hero (Kyree I think) is waiting on an island, just before landing for wizards. Hill fort is not necessary if you can upgrade elves in rampart, but flagging the gold mine I would do it.
Money is always missing in that map.
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted March 08, 2014 10:19 AM |
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I recently started the map and I am thankful for all these comments and help here!Now I am m2w3 and Troeno's friend on the island is free.My spell book already has forcefield,earthquake,quicksand,blind...
I feel lucky,concerning the choice of battle spells I have with me.
I could post some screens later,when in tower land.
Edit:m3w3 I will try to face the Kein S with this army,having NO moral problems at all!(as seen from the screen)
I mean I expect other problems against him.
I got him with reinforcements(some losses)and then after travelling,defeating the tower hero near the stronghold,again travelling and taking strongholds,now I got the town portal spell.
Hope to not have big problems with the italianos.
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
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posted March 14, 2014 02:08 PM |
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I'm not sure how I should defeat the French.
I'm setting out to invade them on 1-4-2. No I arrive at the swamp in 1-4-3 with the following army:
17 wolf raiders (die to mosquitos)
571 grand elves
93 orc chieftains
90 ogre magi
58 thunderbirds
54 cyclops kings
But all I have for spells is Expert Bless/Cure/Slow/Forgetfulness. I also have basic haste/bloodlust.
My problem is that on swamp ground I get massacred. I can't control the enemy units at all - the AI can and will mass haste (actually, his enchanters tend to do that on their first move) and I'm toast.
On my current save, I can't even get to the first castle without having a fight vs a main army (attacking into a castle seems to work much better cause I can block the entrance.
Any tips on how to solve it without excessive save/loading and other such tricks as that's cheap?
Or should I depart sooner?
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
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posted March 14, 2014 03:27 PM |
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It seems like that was all he had though.
45 hydras, 44 wyverns and such. Somehow I managed to win that fight without serious losses but not sure why the girl didn't cast mass haste this time (her enchanters casted mass slow).
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted March 17, 2014 05:17 PM |
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You can flag an enchanter dwelling and have 2 or 4 enchanters in your army as well.
More important,when you first capture fortress,you will find level 3 guild full of useful spells for your book.
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
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posted March 19, 2014 10:22 PM |
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Yea except if you are really unlucky, you never get to the first enchanter dwelling (happened to me) or the first town (happened to me too).
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted March 22, 2014 09:50 AM |
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I got to the inferno area and after my save I got engaged by the main army,but the AI doesn't seem to have the speed arties(as others before him) and it plays dumb-I can berserk him and rebuild my forcefield at ease.
As I read here about the antimagic garrison(which I passed) I wonder if I missed the sword and shield from the armor of the damned in the swamp area in the time the last pink hero vanished,because left without towns.
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LION
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 25, 2014 12:33 PM |
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master_learn said:
I got to the inferno area and after my save I got engaged by the main army,but the AI doesn't seem to have the speed arties(as others before him) and it plays dumb-I can berserk him and rebuild my forcefield at ease.
Berserk? If you are playing SOD V2, you don't have Expert Fire, so berserk is useless in this map. Personally didn't use it at all while playing this map.
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