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Thread: [H3] Unleashing the Bloodthirsty Map This thread is 27 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 10 20 ... 23 24 25 26 27 · «PREV / NEXT»
Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted October 14, 2009 06:05 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 18:11, 14 Oct 2009.

Quote:
but..where the heck are those Boots you need in the beggining to pass the little river north of starting town?
thx



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sachelos
sachelos


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posted October 14, 2009 07:37 PM
Edited by sachelos at 19:38, 14 Oct 2009.

Found it, thx, couldnt make on time as Angelito explained to play the game in the beggining, i think i am late 4-5 days tho...anywayz..met the fortress hero, pretty tough, couldnt win over him in 5 fights now, i have to try again cuz i realise i really suck at this point lol

@edit: guess cuz i didnt played an online game for 2 months now i am pretty rusty already lol..

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sachelos
sachelos


Known Hero
posted October 16, 2009 05:36 AM

re

Finally killed fortress hero (vanquished) and one more with Tower army on him, Neela if i recall right. Now, am i blind or what: where the heck is White Tent? Couldnt find it anywhere, help pls?

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Binabik
Binabik


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posted October 16, 2009 10:57 AM

Get in a boat from the underground necro area. You'll need to visit the tan tent first though.

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Binabik
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posted October 16, 2009 11:04 AM

BTW, if you just cleared the tower zone I don't think you're ready to go to the white tent yet. I don't remember the order, but I think there's at least 2-3 more zones before you get there.


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angelito
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posted October 16, 2009 11:08 AM

Binabik is right. You use the endless SACK of gold first...and the Sword of judgement....
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sachelos
sachelos


Known Hero
posted October 16, 2009 05:29 PM

ok

many thxs. gotta start it all over again and play it better

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Hint

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posted October 16, 2009 08:00 PM

Is it actually possible to win the last battle for the inhibition orb in single nice combat? i couldnt do it...so i just sent the secondary hero with 7x5 stacks of phonexies for like 15 times till dragons had berserked eachother dead. but atleast i managed to end the game, finally finally finally
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Protos
Protos


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posted October 16, 2009 08:55 PM

Of course that it's possible. However, you need black orb which you can get from the seer in desert bellow those 3 stronghold towns. Armor of damned, which you got from Dragonmaster should help as well.


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sachelos
sachelos


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posted October 17, 2009 02:01 PM
Edited by sachelos at 14:04, 17 Oct 2009.

Well..played it again better now, i guess, took 113 gold mine, 123 left starting town, managed to take all 4 elves dwells 137, rampart town mid w4, fortress vanquished late week 5 or early w6 (dont recall, played it a lot yesterday) - nice battles btw for that time. Went to snow area, teal vanquished, but playing it several hours got tired and didnt managed to concentrate that good, was starting to lose army (tower fights) and big lost of army in underground vs hero guarding strongg town. Killed him and took town but lost much troops. Made 2-3 more turns and stopped, enough for that day hehe...
Was wondering ... all is quite good untill w6 or so, after that i have a bad feeling that i am losing time walking around like crazy: how fast/slow this map should be played? i mean Dirk said gold mine 113, 4elves 137, rampart w4, fortress vanq w5/w6! But next? I need to have an ideea how fast should i play this map, cuz army in fortress/tower/strongg raise like hundreads but not enough money to buy it in time..i know you dont have to use it all ofc to win some battles but anywayz...dont know if you get my point

@edit: btw i see that Castle town on the island...he has smth like 650 AA, 1250 Champs blabla...and counting...couldnt collect more than 300 chaos + rest of same week army by the time i stopped playing..

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted October 17, 2009 02:14 PM

Slower you play, easier is because you have several towns to recruit from, while AI is limited to one town. There are only a few battles where an AI hero will have all troops from the others, i.e. dungeon, inferno and conflux but those battle can be safely be won while sitting in a town. However be warned that if you go over 12 months there are chances that the game freezes on AI turn (bug) and you will pull your hair because there is nothing to do against. About casualties, once you have resurrect try to keep everyone alive (blind then resurrect), it is a lot of clicking I know but it pays later.
It has been reported that casting berserk on your own monarchs speeds  resurrecting big stacks (poison your own units before resurrecting them).
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Lumske_Beaver
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posted October 17, 2009 10:19 PM

I need to have an ideea how fast should i play this map, cuz army in fortress/tower/strongg raise like hundreads but not enough money to buy it in time..i know you dont have to use it all ofc to win some battles but anywayz...dont know if you get my point

@edit: btw i see that Castle town on the island...he has smth like 650 AA, 1250 Champs blabla...and counting...couldnt collect more than 300 chaos + rest of same week army by the time i stopped playing..


About money you can easily buy all of your units when you reach the ramparts due to the treasuries and you also have Dwarvenheim and Forrest keep. Until the try to get as many chaos, Gorgons, wywerns, and titans as possible (I guess you know). I know that the green tower hero guarding the stronghold is tough, but try to minimize your loses for instance by using autosave.

You have about 15 or 16 month to complete the map which is more than enough meaning that you have plenty of time. As Salamandre said as longer the map lastes, as easier it is. If you have problems about beating an enemy without losses, and easy way to solve the problems is to wait some weeks. Though I would prefer to change the stategy and complete the map as fast as possible, but if it is your first try, my suggestion might be a solution.

Dont let the castle concern you. At the time your are going to fight your army will be way stronger than in your current situation. The biggest problem is the high attack and defense values of the tan hero.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted October 18, 2009 12:36 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 01:13, 18 Oct 2009.

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@edit: btw i see that Castle town on the island...he has smth like 650 AA, 1250 Champs blabla...and counting...couldnt collect more than 300 chaos + rest of same week army by the time i stopped playing..


Numbers means nothing in singleplayer. There could be million archangels, you still can beat them with 1 hydra. Block the gate after archangels get out, blind and slow them, mass haste your units then use the older and cheaper SP thing, attack with hydras + shooters, blind them before your last unit move, repeat. Theoretically the AI hero has the two spells which could ensure him the win, but the mapmaker did not know how AI plays. He gave implosion, fire shield, cure, dispel + others but the AI will never cast dispel/cure if he has implosion and fire shield (he will keep casting fire shield on every unit before going on implosion and avoid dispel because his units, stupid). So it is like not giving cure/dispel.

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sachelos
sachelos


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posted October 18, 2009 07:03 AM

hi

Hi again guys, thx for replies, i really appreciate it. Played it untill mid month 5, looks good till now, but i am thinking (again) to start it all over and play it better
About autosave thing, i already did it over and over again, saved the game before/after a special battle or even to improve gameplay.
By the time i arrived in underground and fought hero guarding strongg town i had ressurection, used blind to bring back army but was short on spell points, couldnt ressur back all of it hehe.
I really want to finish this map sooner or later, thats why i asked how much time (game time) will take me to do it (around 15 months hehe - then its ok, i dont have to worry).
I'll let you know how the game is going and ofc will post Q from time to time, sometimes i am too tired to concentrate on some things, i think i will better play it 2h or so each day to be more successfull in the end
Any other maps similar to this one? I know they exists but dont recall where to find them.
Cheers,

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angelito
angelito


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posted October 18, 2009 05:26 PM
Edited by angelito at 17:27, 18 Oct 2009.

16 months is too late. You may run into troubles when passing month 14, coz opponent could "overflow" in resources and game could freeze.

You can do it in 11 months or a bit less without too many problems if I recall right.

Toughest fight for me is vs Dragonmaster.

There are a bunch full of maps similar to this one. Some of same high level, others which aren't a real problem but still fun to play.

- The Lord of War (mostly stronghold action)
- To Kill for Power (mostly Inferno action)
- Vengeance is mine (very hard)
- The Lone Knight (Necro action, more than 90k Skeleton warriors in final battle )
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted October 18, 2009 06:05 PM

Add to this list The Empire of the World I and II by Stephan Kispalko, great maps.
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sachelos
sachelos


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posted October 18, 2009 08:08 PM

thx

And a link mb pls?

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Salamandre
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posted October 18, 2009 09:18 PM

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/ByteBanditmaps/

Subscribing is free and the database is very large.
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angelito
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posted October 18, 2009 09:32 PM

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And a link mb pls?
When you have finished Unleashing the Bloodthirsty, I will send them all to you by mail
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ChaosHydra
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posted October 19, 2009 11:55 AM

Quote:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/ByteBanditmaps/

Subscribing is free and the database is very large.




How many maps are we talking about?

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