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Thread: [H3] Unleashing the Bloodthirsty Map [ This thread is 22 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 (6) 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 ]
angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted January 22, 2010 07:41 AM

Could you post what numbers your army was about in that fight?

Btw...with Sacrifice, you would have saved around 80% of your spellpoints. The terrain the fight takes place is "fire", so all spells are at expert level. Your spellpower should be more than 75 that point, so sacrifying 4000 hobgoblins should bring back 1500 Ancients (aprox.) And even if the Hobbies have been dead already, resurrecting them (and sacrifying afterwards) is much cheaper than just resurrecting the teddies...

The version you posted is exactly the same as mine (Feb 2002), so i'm not sure in Salamandre's version, Dragonmaster has "armor of the dead" equipped aswell. That's why the goldies are important.
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cedie
cedie

Tavern Dweller
posted January 22, 2010 09:24 AM

I had 5249 ABs, 652 ADs, and 5x1 goldies. Goldies are important in two ways: resist spells so you always act first in the beginning of combat (dragonslayer has armor of the damned, elixir of life, pendant of dispassion, cape of velocity) and to protect ABs and ADs at the very beginning before you can cast force field. I also created distraction with an ammo cart!

My troops are arranged (top to bottom): GD, GD, GD, GD, GD, ABs, ADs

For some reason AI always attacks goldies and ammo cart so surround major troops with the goldies. forgetfulness, hide ABs and ADs behind force field, antimagic ADs. Once behind force field, only troops he will send is the minotaur. After minotaur attacks ABs, blind them. Then comes the fun part: CLONE the ABs and kill em all! He will sacrifice his medusa, minotaurs, and manticores to resurrect red dragons. That is why I always kill red dragons first.

But this is just the beginning I guess. Tougher battles are ahead it looks like.


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Sulim81
Sulim81


Hired Hero
posted February 08, 2010 08:22 PM

Hello,

I have a one big problem. I cant find dimension door spell. Could smb help me pliz

Regards

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Protos
Protos


Known Hero
posted February 09, 2010 05:52 PM
Edited by Protos at 17:55, 09 Feb 2010.

To find dimension door, you must first defeat legion of Azure dragons which are located at the southwest underground corner of the map. There you will find two obelisks, if i recall correctly. When you visit them, you will find the location of the Grail.
To reach that location you must first defeat Dragonmaster. When you defeat him, go there and find the Grail. Bring the grail in the last conflux town you captured (Senna) and build Aurora Borealis there.

Btw, i must congratulate Commando for making such a great map. To finish it, i even stopped playing online for a while and played single map with  great pleasure after so many years.

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Sulim81
Sulim81


Hired Hero
posted February 10, 2010 06:19 AM

Hm, I dont think so. You need to have dimension door spell to reach the book of air magic and sailor hat, both underground. Then you can exchange it for another artifact in seers hut at the desert. This will help you beat DragonMaster.
I still have a problem

The map is truly magnificient. Such people like Commando, make this game neverending fun.

Regards

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Protos
Protos


Known Hero
posted February 10, 2010 08:12 AM

You dont need black orb to defeat Dragonmaster and you can't get it before that battle anyway. Battle vs Dragonmaster is a tough one, until you find correct tactic. Once you find it, it is easy do defeat him.

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Sulim81
Sulim81


Hired Hero
posted February 10, 2010 12:04 PM

Thanks for help, I guess I have to beat dragonmaster now Hope to find good tactic.

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tzarmu
tzarmu

Tavern Dweller
posted March 13, 2010 12:28 PM

Hi, Im stuck right after taking the 3 stronghold castels. Ive taken dwarvenshire or whatever but i have no clue what to do next. I cant find the red tent, nor can I take any boat to kill the archangels on that island. The summon boat shrine is PAST the borderguard that requires me to kill those archies.


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Sulim81
Sulim81


Hired Hero
posted March 13, 2010 02:56 PM

Red tent is in maze of tournament, which lays behind one-way portal, near Dvarwenheim. The way to this tent is a kind tricky, you must get there through signposts.

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tzarmu
tzarmu

Tavern Dweller
posted March 13, 2010 03:35 PM

Yeah, silly me, went straight past that portal, eyes glinting at the ideea of a town portal and I simply forgot about it afterwards.
Now, im trying to take the red's castles but he is putting up quite a fight. High speed units, hard to keep em CCed, plus a large area of spells and some +10 kills above mine.
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Sulim81
Sulim81


Hired Hero
posted March 14, 2010 04:37 AM

You could use such description to all UtB fights This is what makes this map so fantastic.
Wish you happy ending

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tzarmu
tzarmu

Tavern Dweller
posted March 14, 2010 11:49 AM
Edited by tzarmu at 11:20, 17 Mar 2010.

Realoded the map as i couldnt get the sandals, his army was far lager than mine.
Anyway, just wanted to let you know ive found a new tactic for ugly. Get a unit with better speed then cerbs, archies attack, blind the cerbs, place your units as you like on the battlefield and cast disrupting ray till its def is down to 0, clone the ranged and he shoulndt get to move.
I actualy couldnt take him donw in one go, had to use force field so he would attack some serpents i had, but the had cast arma anyway.

LE:

Ive managed to finish this map but there were some problems with it that i have encountered.
- First of all, i did not loose El regueldo because no necro here has landed ashore to claim it
- Second, the necro hero that should have taken the castle, didnt even move away from his own castle, thus ive got intro the event that was supposed to give him 1200 GhD and snowloads of skill. This has reseted the skills of my hero, takin em back to 3033 or such, had to reload autosave and brought second hero to that event, ghost came in handy while fighting conflux.
- The dungeon heroes somehow came out of green portals and attacked my tower and fortress castles while I was in the conflux area, they were quite easy to defeat.
- After you defeat the one of the conflux heroes, he gives you the 4 magical orbs of 50% dmg, my hero defeated him after fghting the dungeon heroes and thus, i had my inventory full so there was no way i could get the orbs. This i managed to find out later when i came across the quest guard that asked me for em. used cheat for all spells and flew over it, couldnt be asked to reload map the 4th time.
- worth mentioning that the 4th conflux castle was the hardest nutt to crack, and I onlt managed to take it loosing only about 4.5k gnolls(gg sacrifice and ress) because I managed to put together the armour of damned and the 25%life vial. the 4k behemonts came in realy handy in this fight.
- After i took all the dungeon castles, some hero came out of nowhere and attacked me with 1.5 azure, crystals, rusts, and ferries. He had about 3 attskill, 12 def, 3 sp and 3 knw...I realy don think he was meant to be that easy to beat.
- i didnt get to dig for the grail, i didnt find the spellbinders hat, captain whatever hat and the 3rd item for the quests. Nor did i get to take that conflux castle in the top lefthand corner of the underground map. Or is that not meant to be taken?

I would love some thoughts on these issues here.
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angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted March 17, 2010 09:57 AM

Would you tell us what version your H3 game is, and, even more important, what version the map has?
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tzarmu
tzarmu

Tavern Dweller
posted March 17, 2010 11:14 AM

H3 complete, platinum edition and the version is V2
I guess I could post a few screenshots as well

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angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted March 17, 2010 01:29 PM
Edited by angelito at 13:30, 17 Mar 2010.

I ask because there are different versions of that UtB map. The correct one should be called "Unleashing the Bloodthirsty SOD", and is dated from July 02, 2002.

Other maps (one of them is an AB version), have some bugs.
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tzarmu
tzarmu

Tavern Dweller
posted March 17, 2010 05:02 PM

Yeah well...thanks for trying to figure this one out anyway, maybe Ill have a go at the SOD one at some point in time.
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angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted March 18, 2010 04:32 AM

If you have the "AB"  (Armageddon's Blade) version, then it contains soem major bugs on one hand, and has some easier fights on the other hand.

Dragonmaster fight in SOD version for example is much much harder.
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Donald
Donald

Tavern Dweller
posted March 21, 2010 02:39 AM

Hi

it is maybe weird question, but how can I know my HoMM III version ?

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angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted March 21, 2010 05:12 AM

Rightclick H3.exe file, chose properties...version.
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Donald
Donald

Tavern Dweller
posted March 22, 2010 02:08 AM

But.. there is not anything about versions...

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