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violent_flower
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posted July 25, 2007 07:46 PM
Edited by violent_flower at 19:55, 25 Jul 2007.

Koochie Star this ones for you....

Even though this is addressed to Kookie this is open for all of coarse.

With all the recent events of female teachers being sexual with high school boys, and even junior high boys, how do you view this, and is there some explanation of the vulnerability of the student and the teacher?

If we take into account that it is illegal and by most views morally skewed and uncalled for, then we can easily state, these people are just sick and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, if we play devils advocate for a moment, there are far more psychological paths going on here.

You are a teacher, and a hot teacher at that, remembering the song Hot for Teacher by Van Halen:  

copy and paste this to see the video: I think it is Koochie Star.. HEHE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5t5GukrWOU

Do your students ever proposition you, and out of curiosity how is this approach made? If you have read about such cases as the one in Washington State, where the teacher did her time after having a baby with a thirteen year old, got out and married him having another baby with him. Do you suppose this is really love?

Some would say that if the girl is with the male teacher it is because she had no male figure in her life, she was lost looking for a daddy. I call bluff on this one; in a lot of those stories that I have recently caught up on, the girl had a strong male figure.

Who is more vulnerable the boys or the girls? What is taking place in this day in age that has brought this to the center of the media? Every other month there seems to be another new case, older women with the younger boy more then the other way around. .

My quick personal opinion; there seems to be an increase in antidepressants, bi-polar cases today, multi personality disorder, and a slew of other mental disabilities that have all been used in these cases. Donít get me wrong; I do think that people are over diagnosed for the profit of the pharmaceutical companies. However, do these mental disabilities really play a role in answering the question, why? And if they have such issues should they even be allowed to teach?  

After all, a hundred years ago it was common for a thirty year old to marry a thirteen-year-old girl. It was a preference; the male would make sure that his affairs were in order so the women could take care of the family. This goes back to the mythology times as well. So why is it different today? Why do we freak when we hear about these affairs today? Is it the power of teacher or have we just adjusted to everyoneís way of social acceptance? Koochie star if you donít mind?      

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baklava
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posted July 25, 2007 08:01 PM

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If we take into account that it is illegal and by most views morally skewed and uncalled for, then we can easily state, these people are just sick and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

If they BOTH want it and enjoy it, and it doesn't involve anyone else, why is it a crime? Cause it's unusual? That's same as punishing gay people.
Of course, if the kid doesn't want it, it's a crime (rape I think, by definition). But what's the big deal if they just have a relationship?

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Why do we freak when we hear about these affairs today?

Cause they didn't happen to me but to some lucky bastard
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posted July 25, 2007 08:14 PM

Bak, you poor thing never had a hot teacher after you?

I think that it is a issue of the child not being mature enough to decide whether they want it. Ask any fifteen year old that finds his teacher hot if they would have their way with her in the broom closet, and they would drool on you in excitement. The question is, at that point is it hormones taking over, or are they really making a mature decision?

I personally don't find fifteen year old boys attractive in that way, but I have a fifteen year old as well. I can't imagine what I would have in common with someone of that age, I would feel the urge to give them parenting advice not directions on how to put a condom on.
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posted July 25, 2007 08:25 PM

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Bak, you poor thing never had a hot teacher after you?

No... The cruel destiny never gave me a pedophile teacher...
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I think that it is a issue of the child not being mature enough to decide whether they want it. Ask any fifteen year old that finds his teacher hot if they would have their way with her in the broom closet, and they would drool on you in excitement. The question is, at that point is it hormones taking over, or are they really making a mature decision?

Well... Ask 90% of the adults if they would have their way with the hot teacher in the broom closet, I wonder what they'd answer.
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I personally don't find fifteen year old boys attractive in that way

Damnit. See, that's just what I was talking about. I just can't find a good-looking female pedophile anywhere
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posted July 25, 2007 08:43 PM

HEHE..LMAO thanks for the honesty...
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posted July 25, 2007 09:40 PM

It's simple lol.
Women just has that turn on for young men.
It makes the teacher feel great.
Innocent teens who could be virgins or dont even know better.
That is why they call it Teaching
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posted July 25, 2007 10:00 PM

I just got out of bed...  this will take a thoughtful response to do it justice so I'll be back after work to respond, just didn't want you to think I was ignoring you
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posted July 25, 2007 10:25 PM
Edited by antipaladin at 22:26, 25 Jul 2007.

Let me answer this.

Im 17 years old,since i lost my virginity to an older female,i only date woman older.
That doesnt nesserly mean that they are teachers.
But i dated 20-40yrsold females,my frinde thought that im sick by that lol,but what can i do if like supirior intelegence more then charming stupity.
(knowing the girls here you understand..look at tnt..)
im sorry if i'm getting to personall or intimite here,but im being brutally honest:

I find it much easier to chat with older woman,to talk to,be frindes,date,and have sex in the first date.
Those women first denay me of the fact that they are sure that im immeture becouse of the age and stuff but when they realise how charming i can be,they fall into my hands quickly.
I'm currently trying to figour the nature of my realtinship with a 37 year old woman,for better or worse,we had sex,but not intercourse yet,we're not really aplatonic,and i faver it.She is afride that i dont percive her as "Hot" but amazed to learn i still do.

With teachers its differnt,israel is a small place,everyone knows everyone,its not hard to see yourr teacher at the beach at night,or something.

I admit uncounsily flirting with teachers.

In israel we have slang,like most people do,now when i am called bro,or honey i have to respond to that,unless its a tease,when a Teacher calls me that way,i get mixed emotions.I want to replay the same attiute and wormth,but im unsure how she pericve's our realtinship.

I hate being uninformed about it,its not such a secrat,people who know me good enought joke about being an reversed pedhofile

Thats about it.
*hides for cover*

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baklava
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posted July 25, 2007 10:36 PM



Uhm...
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posted July 25, 2007 11:11 PM

Uh thats also like rape in a way lol.
It's Illegal.
Teachers tell the students it's ok blah blah.
They get thier white pudding off.
The teens get thier rocks going.
Then all of a sudden the teens become addicts lol.
Why because Sex feels so good.
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posted July 25, 2007 11:29 PM

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I just got out of bed...  this will take a thoughtful response to do it justice so I'll be back after work to respond, just didn't want you to think I was ignoring you
Don't go there, Kookie! It's bad for business!

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posted July 25, 2007 11:32 PM

LOL

Vlaad you should answer this too!  You could give the male perspective




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Setitetart
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posted July 25, 2007 11:44 PM

May-December romances...ahhhhh.

Never been there, but I do have a fascination fo older men (the likes of Sean Connery, Sam Elliot, Denis Leary, Antonio Banderas...oka I will stop drooling all over myself now) that I could never possibly attain even if I wasnt married already.

Now see, in this country you dating someone that old and being under the legal age, meaning most american states consider 18 year old an adult... would be considered statutory rape.
Sex with a minor is BAD and people go to jail for it...like the teacher in Washington and a number of other cases.

Some places in the Untied whoops I meant United...States consider that a deviant sexual act, and you will be considered a sexual predator and thus made to register in your state as a sex offender. You may as well flush your life down that toilet at that point.

Not to mention the various lables that come with the May-December "romances"...

Such as:
Gold-digger or sugar-daddy or sugar-momma.

Because go ahead and tell me that if you saw a couple like that walking down the street that you wouldn't wonder if the older person was a parent or grandparent, and if they weren't, what exactly then was the nature of their relationship.

Now, once a person hits 18...they can do as they please, which includes dating or marrying who they want regardless of the ages involved, but here it seems very frowned upon because a younger women dating an older man or a young man taking up with a much older woman just looks bad.
People doubt the sincerity of the couples' would-be "love" and start to wonder if they are with each other for less than stellar reasons.
People wonder why you can't find someone your own age....

My own parents had a huge age gap, my mother was 13 and my dad was 21 when they met...my mother had me at 15 years old and it really messed her up. I don't think they had any business being together, much less sexually, with her so young. Why an adult didn't step in and DO something is beyond me...even if it would have meant I possibly wouldn't exist.

Personally I don't see too much wrong with it so long as they are at least legal.

Picking up a date at the playground or local school seems desperate in my book. LOL

I think I wold have run away screaming if any of my much older teachers had hit on me. LOL Ewwww.

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posted July 25, 2007 11:48 PM

There are some hot teachers out there
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posted July 25, 2007 11:50 PM

3 things i have to say:
1: when i said older famale i ment 20-40
2: WHO GIVES A WIGGLYMIGGLY donky crap about what people think? i walk in the street with who i want,the first one who says something about it will suffer from my anger lol,im verycetchy on that thing,if someone who isent a finde,teases the wrong way,i give him the fists.
3:I know it looked frowed upon,but its not really that negetive,what if i like the convo with her,and she likes me..?
its not like were having sexual contact only,and we do it 24\7.we a tad more then aplatnoics,but i have my manner,plus i dont really understand why you think of it so much,If you son dated 3=4 years older girl it be ok,but 10-20 not?
She does not teach me anything i didnt knew from before.
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posted July 25, 2007 11:51 PM

Wrong thread then
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posted July 26, 2007 12:07 AM

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and you will be considered a sexual predator

Yes... Being a sexual predator is really hard at times...



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posted July 26, 2007 12:27 AM
Edited by violent_flower at 00:29, 26 Jul 2007.

I was married to an older man at sixteen and he had two children already, I had my first baby at seventeen, he was planned. Back then I thought I was mature and responsible, I could handle anything that you put in front of me, actually I was more confident back then, then now.

As time passed and we grew apart, (mainly due to his alcoholism) I soon realized that I had no business getting married. However, it had nothing to do with his age but my life experiences were not there. I had nothing but a poor childhood to compare to.

So we know that people of all age groups have sexual relations all the time, but what do you suppose the glitter is all about with teachers and their students. Is it simply the power they have over the student, or is it the amount of time that they spend together, hence the idea that most affairs happen at the work place where we spend most of our time.

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posted July 26, 2007 12:35 AM

This thread is so off track now.
Later.
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posted July 26, 2007 01:19 AM
Edited by Binabik at 01:20, 26 Jul 2007.

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meaning most american states consider 18 year old an adult
I thought that myself until recently.


I don't know anything about these people or if their info is correct. I did a few spot checks and crossed it with other sites and they checked OK.
http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

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but what do you suppose the glitter is all about with teachers and their students.
First, it makes the news, so you hear about it a lot.  Second, I think it's simply a matter of opportunity. School is a place where you have large numbers of people intermingling.  When that many people are together in one place, then the juices are going to start flowing.

It's weird, I know I had crushes on teachers when I was in school, but I sure can't remember who they were. The only crush on a teacher that I remember was many years later at college and she was maybe 5-10 years younger than me.

I think there is more to this issue than just age. There are ethical issues. I'm not saying I agree with it, just that they exist. Even in college with adults, it would be considered unethical for a student/teacher relationship.  Although I don't think that's as true as it once was.

There are also companies that outright ban any type of relationship between employees. I understand the reason for that, but I don't agree with it.

I knew an engineer who had a thing going with the woman who did payroll in the company. After they broke up, every payday there was some reason why his check was late. LMAO

Personally I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. I think this is a case where it should be illegal for teacher/student sex. BUT I think it's something where a "Judge" should be allowed to judge and use some common sense. I think the law should allow for the possibility of a serious relationship.

When I was in HS there was a teacher who was maybe 30 who had a relationship with a senior. It was only rumor at the time, until a couple years later when they got married. Coincidentally they live just down the road from me.  They are still married and have grown kids.


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